JumpingJackFlash

Joking about what?

onebadcad

GS with a huge snail

BJ67

Right, so get a 755 hp ZR1 and that will take care of both his needs.

JumpingJackFlash

Both of his needs??? I didn’t realize the OP had multiple needs. OP was asking a question about both these autos (GS and new GT 500). OP did not indicate anything about needs. Is there some other post somewhere that you are reading that the OP discussed needs?

Soonere39

First post trolling

2cnd Chance

JumpingJackFlash

The GT500 was designed from the ground up to take on the Camaro ZL1 1LE which happens to be a faster car than the Vette Z06. These are not my words but there are actual track times at Nürburgring Nordschleife (Germany) race track that confirm this performance. These times were made by experienced professional race car drivers. Now I don’t know how much quicker the Vette ZR1 will be than the new Camaro ZL1 1LE but the GT500 was designed to compete with the Camaro and I would guess it would be comparable in performance with the ZR1 on a road course. However, we are getting ahead of ourselves as this is a topic of discussion for another day. The OP specifically mentioned the GS and the GT500 didn’t he? So, to answer your question - no I was not “joking” to use your words.

lupicon

This.
Same reason I sold my muscle car (Boss) and bought a Z06 (Sports-car).

BJ67

OP wants 700 plus horsepower, op wants the handling and looks of a GS, so the 755 horse ZR1 seems to fit the needs nicely.

OnPoint

Post the track times showing the ZL1 faster than the Z06.

LuckyGuy

The Mustang is not generally regarded as a muscle car. It is a pony car.

blueray16

Depending on what the final specs on GT 500 may be:

Be prepared to pay a minimum $20,000 - $50,000 ADM to the dealer over and above MSRP.

JumpingJackFlash

see https://www.foxsports.com/motor/stor...urgring-062317

spireland

I like Mustangs but the GT350 killed my desire to own one, at least new, ever again.

The ADM on these cars is nuts and Ford doesn't seem to care at all.

The GT500 will be a 70k with another 20-30k markup at least. At that price you can get a custom ordered, fully loaded, Z06. Gt500 may be faster in a straight line but no way its going to corner like a z06. Its also a mustang, and that is nuts to pay that much for...a mustang.

JumpingJackFlash

This new GT500 is being designed to be a track monster. It is designed to take on the new Camaro ZL1 1LE. It is not going to be just a straight line car only.

Billy346

BJ67

The Gt500 , because it will be more horse than the hellcat, will compete mostly with hellcat in the pony car horsepower war. The ZL1 was already knocked out the Horsepower war because of the hellcat. As far as a road course car goes, I don't believe the GT500 is going to dethrone the ZL1 1LE. The GT500 will have bragging rights for the 1/4 mile king for mass produced everyday pony car. The Demon being a 1 purpose specialty built 1/4 mile car and only 3000 built is in a different category and competes with no one. The ZR1 will destroy the GT500

JumpingJackFlash

Horsepower is not the only factor that will determine how well a car will do on a road coarse. There is so much more than just gross horsepowr numbers. Aerodynamics, suspension tuning, weight and distribution, car balance, brakes, driver skill, etc.. all are factors as well. The new 2019 GT500 is not designed to go head-to-head with a Charger/Demon on a quarter-mile strip. Those days of being a 1/4 mile beast are gone. The new GT500 has been designed to go head-to-head with the ‘Maro ZL1 1LE so you will be a bit surprised when you hear about this new car and how well it performs. The new GT500 is not going to be like your farther’s GT500.

sunsalem

I love Mustangs and had a 1996 Mystic Mustang Cobra.
Or at least I did, until this retro-look kick Ford has been on for nearly 20 years soured me.
I won't buy a new car that looks like an old one.

The Ford V8, as used in the Mustang, is the best sounding American engine of all time IMO.
Put some aftermarket exhaust on one and it is all smiles from me.

However, if I was in the market for a Muscle Car (or "Pony" Car, if you will), I would go with the ZL1...only because I prefer the aesthetics.

BJ67

And The GT500's only chance to overtake the ZL1 1LE is with a lot more horsepower. If The GT500 was being built to go H2H with the ZL1 1LE, why didn't it stick with the 662 horse formula along with the S550 GT350R chassis to make it interesting. I think Ford knows it needs the huge horsepower difference to compete closely with the ZL1 1LE.