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This topic comes up few months. My comment is always the same:
Put the gun on your body and leave it there unless going into a restricted area.
You don't need to draw and shoot in the car. If you stay to shoot when you could have driven away, you're already in big legal trouble. If the car is disabled and you need to exit, you want the gun to stay concealed and with you with no additional time or movement to alert the bad guys or be fumbled.
If you get in the habit or putting the gun on/off every time you exit/enter the car, sooner or later:
1. You'll shoot yourself in the *** while trying to holster/unholster, or your passenger or the car. And your hearing may never be the same.
2. You'll leave the gun behind in the car that one day when you desperately need it.
3. Someone will see you putting on the gun and phone the police about "guy getting ready to rob xxx store."
30+ years of training and supervising police officers taught me a lot. This is one of the lessons.
Twin Barrett M107a1's that pop out of the front fenders.
Ok, I'm kidding, but really, where do you all live that you feel required to be strapped all the time? Heck, I'm in Baltimore all the time, and have never felt like I'd be safer if I had a weapon...
This topic comes up few months. My comment is always the same:
Put the gun on your body and leave it there unless going into a restricted area.
You don't need to draw and shoot in the car. If you stay to shoot when you could have driven away, you're already in big legal trouble. If the car is disabled and you need to exit, you want the gun to stay concealed and with you with no additional time or movement to alert the bad guys or be fumbled.
If you get in the habit or putting the gun on/off every time you exit/enter the car, sooner or later:
1. You'll shoot yourself in the *** while trying to holster/unholster, or your passenger or the car. And your hearing may never be the same.
2. You'll leave the gun behind in the car that one day when you desperately need it.
3. Someone will see you putting on the gun and phone the police about "guy getting ready to rob xxx store."
30+ years of training and supervising police officers taught me a lot. This is one of the lessons.
It depends on which vehicle I'm using and how long I will be in it whether I leave on me or transfer to vehicle. As mentioned above, I conceal carry in back of my pants and that's not comfortable in my C7 nor do I want to risk marking my seat back, so SIG goes behind the screen.
I don't agree with your statement "sooner or later you'll 1.2.3 etc" as firearm accidents do happen, however many carry firearms for years and will never experience a misfortune you describe.
Always following basic firearm safety, being familiar with your firearm and knowing how to use it are paramount for safe/trouble-free firearm carry and use.
Twin Barrett M107a1's that pop out of the front fenders.
Ok, I'm kidding, but really, where do you all live that you feel required to be strapped all the time? Heck, I'm in Baltimore all the time, and have never felt like I'd be safer if I had a weapon...
I most definitely feel safer with my weapon on my side. No matter if I'm in a bad area or not.
I understand if a person doesn't like or want to own a gun and I have no problem with their choice,,,however
A lot of us concealed carry owners feel that it is more than just personal protection. We feel like it is our right/responsibility to protect others as well. law enforcement cannot possibly stop crimes before they happen,they simply mop up the carnage and try to catch the guy AFTER he has alraedy killed dozens.
I'm sure most of the people who were present when some maniac walked into a mall or movie theater or school and starts shooting innocent people thought they would never need a gun. Maybe if someone wasa there to shoot back innocent lives could have been saved. there are many examples of this happening but you hear much about those heroes in the media. They would rather have us all huddled in a corner hoping we don't get shot.
These cowards are looking for helpless victims.As soon as bullets start coming back at them they run....or get stopped.
I probably and hopefully will never be in that situation and will never need a gun...
but if one is,and needs a gun....you REALLY NEED a gun
Twin Barrett M107a1's that pop out of the front fenders.
Ok, I'm kidding, but really, where do you all live that you feel required to be strapped all the time? Heck, I'm in Baltimore all the time, and have never felt like I'd be safer if I had a weapon...
Carrying a CCW is not a sometime thing; it's an all time thing. When you can predict where danger will strike, i suppose you can carry (or not) with more precision. Others have said it well - you are the first line of defense. Law enforcement is called 'first RESPONDERS' as the probability that they are in the right place at the right time is approximately 0.00001. Train, be mentally prepared and protect those that you love. No more, no less.
Baltimore, no gun ... that's Darwin thinking for certain.
I most definitely feel safer with my weapon on my side. No matter if I'm in a bad area or not.
I understand if a person doesn't like or want to own a gun and I have no problem with their choice,,,however A lot of us concealed carry owners feel that it is more than just personal protection. We feel like it is our right/responsibility to protect others as well. law enforcement cannot possibly stop crimes before they happen,they simply mop up the carnage and try to catch the guy AFTER he has alraedy killed dozens.
I'm sure most of the people who were present when some maniac walked into a mall or movie theater or school and starts shooting innocent people thought they would never need a gun. Maybe if someone wasa there to shoot back innocent lives could have been saved. there are many examples of this happening but you hear much about those heroes in the media. They would rather have us all huddled in a corner hoping we don't get shot.
These cowards are looking for helpless victims.As soon as bullets start coming back at them they run....or get stopped.
I probably and hopefully will never be in that situation and will never need a gun...
but if one is,and needs a gun....you REALLY NEED a gun
I've been robbed at gunpoint twice and fortunately wasn't hurt either time. This first time I was 17 and working the checkout counter at a super market and had no firearm, and the second was when my business was robbed and I had a firearm under the counter in close reaching distance.
I felt a little less helpless the second time knowing I at least had a fighting chance had the thief demonstrated the slightest indication he was going to shoot anyone.
Appendix carry IWB LCP pretty much everywhere (Enhanced Idaho laws). Personally I feel there is no need to store a firearm in your car at all. If you cant bring a weapon into the place you're going, don't bring it. Twenty-five years in the military taught me to never leave a weapon unsecured. FYI, Crossbreed makes one of the most comfortable holsters out there.
Carrying a CCW is not a sometime thing; it's an all time thing. When you can predict where danger will strike, i suppose you can carry (or not) with more precision. Others have said it well - you are the first line of defense. Law enforcement is called 'first RESPONDERS' as the probability that they are in the right place at the right time is approximately 0.00001. Train, be mentally prepared and protect those that you love. No more, no less.
Baltimore, no gun ... that's Darwin thinking for certain.
That’s fine if you train, but how many actually do? How many would be Rambos are there that are packing, because it’s thier right, and what happens when they whip it out and start shooting back?
And there’s a huge difference between training, and actually doing. I’ve seen plenty of times when highly trained people lose thier grip, when something real goes down. Submarines, and actual fire or flooding can reveal a lot about a trained guy.
That’s fine if you train, but how many actually do? How many would be Rambos are there that are packing, because it’s thier right, and what happens when they whip it out and start shooting back?
And there’s a huge difference between training, and actually doing. I’ve seen plenty of times when highly trained people lose thier grip, when something real goes down. Submarines, and actual fire or flooding can reveal a lot about a trained guy.
Then the untrained person will pay the consequences of his/her actions. Now apply the same logic to a young carjacker, gang member candidate, or a crazy gun toting wack job in a school.
It is usually those that have never experienced a real life or death situation that tend to come up with "what if" victim scenarios.
I'm willing to accept some risk from people who mean well than to accept risk from people who don't.
02-16-2018, 08:58 PM
