Thoughts of trading Grand Sport vs GTS
#41
if CPO Give it a try!
I've owned a few 911's. They were very reliable and were 100% fun. I did sell both right as the certified pre-owned was expiring. Repairs after that all were going to be $$$.
I bought my current C7 over a Porsche largely as I've never owned a vette and felt like as a car guy you have to own one at least once.
Let us know, either way!
I bought my current C7 over a Porsche largely as I've never owned a vette and felt like as a car guy you have to own one at least once.
Let us know, either way!
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911Hunter (02-24-2018)
#42
Team Owner
Not a Porsche, but when I purchased my Mercedes, the cost of an LOF was $135(in 1999)at the Mercedes dealer.
One time was enough. I found out that it was no different than on any other car except for the aero belly pan under the engine.
On my Mercedes, four screws removed and the 3 pound plastic belly pan is out of the way and the drain plug removal is no different than on any American car. Actually, the oil filter is easier(less messy) to R&R than on my Z06. Then another couple of minutes to replace the belly pan and 6 quarts of full synthetic oil(~$30 at Walmart) and a $10 WIX oil filter, and my $135 oil change became $40. But to be upfront with you, I do have two four post lifts to use to change my oil(standing up). At 75 years old, I'm too old to be on my back trying to do that crap.
In 19 years of ownership I have had one repair made to my Mercedes. MAF sensor replaced. At the Mercedes dealer it was ~$800 plus labor to install. I purchased a new OEM Bosch MAF from Amazon for $145 and it took 20 minutes to change out in my driveway.
Before you discard the notion of a 911 GT3 being too expensive to own, do some research first and get the true facts.
One time was enough. I found out that it was no different than on any other car except for the aero belly pan under the engine.
On my Mercedes, four screws removed and the 3 pound plastic belly pan is out of the way and the drain plug removal is no different than on any American car. Actually, the oil filter is easier(less messy) to R&R than on my Z06. Then another couple of minutes to replace the belly pan and 6 quarts of full synthetic oil(~$30 at Walmart) and a $10 WIX oil filter, and my $135 oil change became $40. But to be upfront with you, I do have two four post lifts to use to change my oil(standing up). At 75 years old, I'm too old to be on my back trying to do that crap.
In 19 years of ownership I have had one repair made to my Mercedes. MAF sensor replaced. At the Mercedes dealer it was ~$800 plus labor to install. I purchased a new OEM Bosch MAF from Amazon for $145 and it took 20 minutes to change out in my driveway.
Before you discard the notion of a 911 GT3 being too expensive to own, do some research first and get the true facts.
Last edited by JoesC5; 02-22-2018 at 05:52 PM.
#44
Sure, you can do the oil change. But you cannot reset the service indicator on a Porsche through the dash menus. You need special software, a cable, and a PC. I do this but most people do not and need to bring the car to the dealer. To change PDK oil you *need* the dealer’s PIWIS software system. Even an indy mechanic can’t do it. Costs about $1500 every 40k miles.
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JerriVette (02-22-2018)
#46
Team Owner
Nothing wrong with a 911 GTS, does not have that raw power of a C7, completely different driving experience between the two. Bottom line is going to be $$$$$.
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911Hunter (02-24-2018)
#47
#48
Heel & Toe
2 Gallons of Synthetic and a Porsche Mechanic / Shop
I sold my last Porsche for one reason only. Even though I enjoyed the car, the insulting premium cost of every little thing irritated me.
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JerriVette (02-22-2018)
#49
3.4 is the Porsche number. They are usually conservative. Most of the test reports on the PDK are 3.0 to sixty. Even the heavier cab is testing at 3.0.
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Mid-Years Forever! (01-18-2022)
#50
Race Director
Two Porsche 991.2 s on my block. One is a GTS and one is a vert s model S.
They love the Porsche brands. One is on his third recently 911 model S after owning a 1998 c5 convertible z51.
The other just sold his 2002 911 turbo and bought the GTS targa...as he couldn't bring himself to buy a pdk only 911 turbo which is pdk only model. He loves his model GTS.. I think his was around 140 grand...
We chat often and they both love vette s but also wanted a change ..and both seem happy.
They are a decade or so older than you but seem quite youthful and vibrant. Nice guys and I admire their choices as I'm not specifically just a corvette enthusiast. I'm really a sports car enthusiast myself..
Money is not an issue for these gentleman so maintaince cost is something's I haven t discussed with them....I don't think for the First few years costs are an issue...
The new turbo engine is a hoot.
If you feel got the coin laying around for the trade differential why the hell mot..?
The turn in is great. The acceleration is extremely strong with the new turbo motors, the pdk is extremely fast and can literally take thousands of abusive launch control starts in a row...it's designed that way. The quality inside the Porsche is quite apparent. It's an undeniable experience. Go for it.
Have fun..and down the road if you want to sell and buy a new corvette you can always do that.
These two guys dig corvettes and both love their latest Porsche purchases.
Based off their love affair with porsches I'd recommend you test Drive And you ll know what's to do...
They love the Porsche brands. One is on his third recently 911 model S after owning a 1998 c5 convertible z51.
The other just sold his 2002 911 turbo and bought the GTS targa...as he couldn't bring himself to buy a pdk only 911 turbo which is pdk only model. He loves his model GTS.. I think his was around 140 grand...
We chat often and they both love vette s but also wanted a change ..and both seem happy.
They are a decade or so older than you but seem quite youthful and vibrant. Nice guys and I admire their choices as I'm not specifically just a corvette enthusiast. I'm really a sports car enthusiast myself..
Money is not an issue for these gentleman so maintaince cost is something's I haven t discussed with them....I don't think for the First few years costs are an issue...
The new turbo engine is a hoot.
If you feel got the coin laying around for the trade differential why the hell mot..?
The turn in is great. The acceleration is extremely strong with the new turbo motors, the pdk is extremely fast and can literally take thousands of abusive launch control starts in a row...it's designed that way. The quality inside the Porsche is quite apparent. It's an undeniable experience. Go for it.
Have fun..and down the road if you want to sell and buy a new corvette you can always do that.
These two guys dig corvettes and both love their latest Porsche purchases.
Based off their love affair with porsches I'd recommend you test Drive And you ll know what's to do...
Last edited by JerriVette; 02-22-2018 at 09:30 PM.
#51
Like I said earlier, they are absolutely terrific cars with better build quality and luxury versus the Vette. The performance is excellent and they are comfortable. The downsides are (1) insultingly high-priced service, most of which you have to do at the dealer, and (2) if you plan to put real miles on the car, say 80k+, then you are into stratospheric repair costs. *Start* with $10k+ to replace the turbos...
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911Hunter (02-24-2018)
#52
Race Director
My local dealer just got a trade in of a 2017 Porsche GTS with only 2300 miles. My thoughts are maybe a time for a change... I love my 2017 Grand Sport , but at 58 sometimes you want a change. So my question to you Corvette owners and probably former or current Porsche owners is if this would be a mistake. Obviously, there is a good deal of money to put up, but what I really would like feedback on is to hear the pros and cons if I made the trade. I really appreciate your time and opinions before I might regret my decision. Thanks in advance!!!
#53
Other factors to consider...
Everyone mentions on the maintenance costs of Porsches, which I agree are high at the dealership, but in our medium size town their are several great independent German garages that use only Porsche parts and charge less than half what the dealership charges.
Trade in value... Although Porsches dealerships don't normally give big discounts on new cars, the cars hold their value. Used GT4s and GT3s can be resold at close to MSRP. A C6ZR1 that cost $125K are now selling in the 50k range. You can pay for a lot of Porsche parts with that $75,000.
Everyone mentions on the maintenance costs of Porsches, which I agree are high at the dealership, but in our medium size town their are several great independent German garages that use only Porsche parts and charge less than half what the dealership charges.
Trade in value... Although Porsches dealerships don't normally give big discounts on new cars, the cars hold their value. Used GT4s and GT3s can be resold at close to MSRP. A C6ZR1 that cost $125K are now selling in the 50k range. You can pay for a lot of Porsche parts with that $75,000.
#55
Melting Slicks
I had a 911 Carerra S and sold it, but miss it all the time. Loved driving it. But For daily driving, I preferred my Vette. The GTS is a very different car compared to the GS. But, if you have the cash, I’d say go for it. After the Porsche goes off warranty, they can become costly to maintain compared to a Chevy.
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911Hunter (02-24-2018)
#56
Melting Slicks
My local dealer just got a trade in of a 2017 Porsche GTS with only 2300 miles. My thoughts are maybe a time for a change... I love my 2017 Grand Sport , but at 58 sometimes you want a change. So my question to you Corvette owners and probably former or current Porsche owners is if this would be a mistake. Obviously, there is a good deal of money to put up, but what I really would like feedback on is to hear the pros and cons if I made the trade. I really appreciate your time and opinions before I might regret my decision. Thanks in advance!!!
#57
Melting Slicks
I had a 911 Carerra S and sold it, but miss it all the time. Loved driving it. But For daily driving, I preferred my Vette. The GTS is a very different car compared to the GS. But, if you have the cash, I’d say go for it. After the Porsche goes off warranty, they can become costly to maintain compared to a Chevy.
OP, two things:
- Can you afford it?
- Have you test driven it on some of the routes you'd usually drive it on, and liked it?
Answer yes to both and I would say go for it.
Answer no to either, don't bother.
#58
Instructor
If you’re a car guy like most of us are, you owe it to yourself to have owned a Porsche 911 at least once in your lifetime.
Porsche has been refining this car since the mid 1960s. It truly is the only “super car” that can be driven anywhere and parked on the street, and nobody will give it a second look..
If your ordering a new Porsche, the sky is the limit. Their option/build sheet goes on and on and on. So many option that don’t necessarily make the driving experience any better but will make your car extremely personalized. You will never recover the astronomical additional cost of these options, when you sell or trade in.
Life is short my friend, and if you can afford it, GO FOR IT!
Porsche has been refining this car since the mid 1960s. It truly is the only “super car” that can be driven anywhere and parked on the street, and nobody will give it a second look..
If your ordering a new Porsche, the sky is the limit. Their option/build sheet goes on and on and on. So many option that don’t necessarily make the driving experience any better but will make your car extremely personalized. You will never recover the astronomical additional cost of these options, when you sell or trade in.
Life is short my friend, and if you can afford it, GO FOR IT!
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