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Old 03-09-2018, 11:44 AM
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Hi guys, im getting ready to order one of these 2 tires. I have owned both in the past. I would pick over the new DWS06 just because it's a newer tire and the A/S 3 will be discontinued.

I want to know which ones of you own these and can rate them for me?

1) Noise 1-10 (10 being the lowest road noise)
2) Traction 1-10 (10 being the greatest traction)
3) Handling 1-10 (10 being the best handling)
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The A/S 3 is an older model and has already been discontinued. The AS3+ was new in 2016 and is not being discontinued. The Conti is not available as a runflat (ZP), which is a big disadvantage. AS3+ is available in both std. and ZP versions.

Most rankings show AS3+ rated #1 w/ the Conti #2.

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I have owned the A/S 3+

It was good but had too much road noise. The DWS06 is one of the best i've owned.

I've heard a few of the corvette owners who own the A/S 3+ said there was minimal road noise.

So that's why i created this thread. Maybe they have changed out their batch or something, who knows. The first rows of A/3+ in 2016 i bought, i didnt like them very much simply due to high road noise.
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Yes, I have them and believe the AS3+ has minimal road noise. I have two sets of wheels/tires and run AS3+ in the winter, and OEM PSS in the summer. Performance of AS3+ is vastly superior in temps below 70ļ, and comparable to PSS even in summer for street use unless you're a hooligan. Only on the track will one see an obvious advantage for PSS.

I like Conti's too, but non-ZP is a non-starter for me.

Every tire in the coupe has high road noise due to the coupe's design and minimal sound dampening material in the rear floor. Mine's a convertible which is much quieter, since it doesn't have the large tire noise concert hall in the back.

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Here is my take. I have the Contis on my Corvette and on my wife's RX.

The Contis will ride a bit better, less noise and will perform better in snow.
The Michelins will likely have a bit better at the handling limits. Since I don't track my car, this was not an issue.

As far as wear, I can only say that after almost 17K miles the Contis on both of our cars have minimal wear.

I concur with Foosh, the biggest difference is that the Contis are NOT a runflat. If this is a concern then you should buy the Michelins. It was not a concern for me as I will just call for a flatbed if I get a flat. I have never had a time when I did not have either a cell phone signal or an OnStar Connection.
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Slightly O/T, but a data point that may be helpful - On my '11 Mustang GT, I changed from the Pirelli PZero Neros to A/S 3+ based on reviews of the A/S 3+ reducing road noise. I wish I'd done it at the first tire change... Less noise and better ride/handling. Did not do any noise measurements, but cabin noise was clearly reduced.
After buying my C7, I found the road noise annoying and looked at installing a set of A/S 3+ to reduce the noise level from the OEM Michelins. Before I pulled the $1200 trigger, I discovered Block It mats, that dropped the noise level 2-3 dB to the equivalent of my Mustang, and attenuated the noise spikes from the rear wheels...
When it comes time to replace the OEM tires, the A/S 3+ or its current offspring will be on the short list of choices.
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Actually removed the A/S 3+s from our vehicle early due to road noise. Won't purchase them again, for any vehicle.
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I use the DWS on another vehicle and am very happy with them in off-conditions. Low noise, wear is ok, ride is good.
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Originally Posted by jimmbbo View Post
Slightly O/T, but a data point that may be helpful - On my '11 Mustang GT, I changed from the Pirelli PZero Neros to A/S 3+ based on reviews of the A/S 3+ reducing road noise. I wish I'd done it at the first tire change... Less noise and better ride/handling. Did not do any noise measurements, but cabin noise was clearly reduced.
After buying my C7, I found the road noise annoying and looked at installing a set of A/S 3+ to reduce the noise level from the OEM Michelins. Before I pulled the $1200 trigger, I discovered Block It mats, that dropped the noise level 2-3 dB to the equivalent of my Mustang, and attenuated the noise spikes from the rear wheels...
When it comes time to replace the OEM tires, the A/S 3+ or its current offspring will be on the short list of choices.
I will be doing both, blockit and quiet tires.

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I have Conti dws06’s as my winter tire on my vette and as3+ on my GTI and bmw all off them are non zp. I like them all, but the conti’s Do much better in snow than the as3
+’s. They are all daily driver cars. Vette for me 2015 GTI with stage 2 tune my girlfriend,
& bmw 335i 550rwhp my son. Conti’s are also marginally quieter.
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Originally Posted by chefcg1 View Post
I have Conti dws06ís as my winter tire on my vette and as3+ on my GTI and bmw all off them are non zp. I like them all, but the contiís Do much better in snow than the as3
+ís. They are all daily driver cars. Vette for me 2015 GTI with stage 2 tune my girlfriend,
& bmw 335i 550rwhp my son. Contiís are also marginally quieter.
Just ordered the DWS06
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Just ordered the DWS06
I think youíll like them and honestly you really couldnít go wrong with either choice.
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Originally Posted by chefcg1 View Post
I think youíll like them and honestly you really couldnít go wrong with either choice.
I agree. I already have them on my other car.

And my wife has contis (not dws, but contipro) and they are awesome
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Originally Posted by Foosh View Post

Every tire in the coupe has high road noise due to the coupe's design and minimal sound dampening material in the rear floor. Mine's a convertible which is much quieter, since it doesn't have the large tire noise concert hall in the back.
You really should stop posting this bs in every tire thread you can get your hands on, when what you have to say about road noise is plain incorrect. Literally, you spew your bs in every thread where someone asks about tires, and muddy the discussion. He did not ask about sound deadening, he asked which tire is quieter. Tires do have a big part to play in road noise, coupe or convertible. It's obvious 101 NVH science.

OP, DWS is a great tire. I have had them on multiple cars including AMGs and 911s and they always exceeded my expectations.

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Thanks man. What i don't understand is that why A/S 3+ is rated higher than the DWS06.

I may have come across a bad batch in early 2017 with the A/S 3+. But then again what does that say about Michelin QC :S
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I have both..
AS3+ on my C5
DWS06 on my C7

Here's what I think of each:

AS3+:
1) Noise 1-10 (10 being the lowest road noise) 8
2) Traction 1-10 (10 being the greatest traction) 8
3) Handling 1-10 (10 being the best handling) 9

DWS06:
1) Noise 1-10 (10 being the lowest road noise) 10
2) Traction 1-10 (10 being the greatest traction) 8
3) Handling 1-10 (10 being the best handling) 8
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Originally Posted by YO-EL View Post
I have both..
AS3+ on my C5
DWS06 on my C7

Here's what I think of each:

AS3+:
1) Noise 1-10 (10 being the lowest road noise) 8
2) Traction 1-10 (10 being the greatest traction) 8
3) Handling 1-10 (10 being the best handling) 9

DWS06:
1) Noise 1-10 (10 being the lowest road noise) 10
2) Traction 1-10 (10 being the greatest traction) 8
3) Handling 1-10 (10 being the best handling) 8
Exactly what i wanted to see. Thank you!

What tires would be better than these two? None?
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I owned both DWS06 and AS3+. I would say the DWS are a little louder and not as grippy as the AS3+.
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Originally Posted by xxaarraa View Post
You really should stop posting this bs in every tire thread you can get your hands on, when what you have to say about road noise is plain incorrect. Literally, you spew your bs in every thread where someone asks about tires, and muddy the discussion. He did not ask about sound deadening, he asked which tire is quieter. Tires do have a big part to play in road noise, coupe or convertible. It's obvious 101 NVH science.

OP, DWS is a great tire. I have had them on multiple cars including AMGs and 911s and they always exceeded my expectations.
Actually, you are correct in that this thread has nothing to do with the C7 road noise issues. However, I'm tired of all the fan-boys in this forum calling facts BS. The coupe does have an excess of road noise in the back. Many threads on people adding sound-proofing because of it. Don't like facts, too bad.
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Originally Posted by xxaarraa View Post
You really should stop posting this bs in every tire thread you can get your hands on, when what you have to say about road noise is plain incorrect. Literally, you spew your bs in every thread where someone asks about tires, and muddy the discussion. He did not ask about sound deadening, he asked which tire is quieter. Tires do have a big part to play in road noise, coupe or convertible. It's obvious 101 NVH science.
You should look no further than yourself when it comes to spewing BS.

What I posted is absolute fact. Anyone with any common sense can figure out why there's a lot of tire noise with a cursory examination of the lightweight design. I said nothing about sound deadening except that the coupe has little or none between the very thin rear cargo area floor and the rear wheel wells. You're not going to make a coupe quiet by switching to any other tire on the market. Of course, some tires are quieter than others, but you're always going to have a lot of tire noise in a C7 coupe regardless. Neither the OEM PSS or the AS3+ are rated particularly high for tire noise.

This thread was in part about someone wanting a quiet tire that would eliminate tire noise. I posted what I posted because I think people are mistakenly thinking that the OEM tires are abnormally loud, when it's the design of the car which is to blame for the noise, not the tires.

I also agree the DWS is a great tire and said so, other than not being available as a ZP tire. But, if someone's looking to buy it because they think it's going the magically make things significantly quieter, they'll be disappointed.

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