MGW Install Frustrations
#1
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
MGW Install Frustrations
Not sure if this actually a thing, but might help someone in the future.
I've done the MGW install on my C6 with no issues. Everything went into place no problem. I've moved the same unit into the C7 and literally wasted an hour trying to get it to go into reverse during install. Every time I'd push it over far right and attempt to pull back, it would lock me out. I tried disassembling/realigning/torqueing everything multiple times. It would randomly let me into go into reverse, to which I would torque the mounting bolts down, only to find I was locked out again.
Then I thought, maybe the car had to be turned on and off to realign reverse or something. For some reason, it worked. So with the car off, I torqued the 3 torx screws and tried again. It was locked once again. Loosened the 3 torx screws, realigned, and turned the car on (no ignition this time). Tried reverse again and it worked. Turned off power, torqued screws, tried reverse, locked out.
So long story short, apparently reverse locks out every time I put a wrench to any of the 3 torx screws to torque them. If everything is torqued down, and the car is cycled on and off, reverse is unlocked and functioning.
So my question is: is putting a wrench on either of the 3 torx screws shorting out the lockout solenoid preventing reverse gear? And the only way it unlocks, is cycling the ignition.
From my super frustrating dealings, I believe so.
/rant
I've done the MGW install on my C6 with no issues. Everything went into place no problem. I've moved the same unit into the C7 and literally wasted an hour trying to get it to go into reverse during install. Every time I'd push it over far right and attempt to pull back, it would lock me out. I tried disassembling/realigning/torqueing everything multiple times. It would randomly let me into go into reverse, to which I would torque the mounting bolts down, only to find I was locked out again.
Then I thought, maybe the car had to be turned on and off to realign reverse or something. For some reason, it worked. So with the car off, I torqued the 3 torx screws and tried again. It was locked once again. Loosened the 3 torx screws, realigned, and turned the car on (no ignition this time). Tried reverse again and it worked. Turned off power, torqued screws, tried reverse, locked out.
So long story short, apparently reverse locks out every time I put a wrench to any of the 3 torx screws to torque them. If everything is torqued down, and the car is cycled on and off, reverse is unlocked and functioning.
So my question is: is putting a wrench on either of the 3 torx screws shorting out the lockout solenoid preventing reverse gear? And the only way it unlocks, is cycling the ignition.
From my super frustrating dealings, I believe so.
/rant
#3
Burning Brakes
Sorry I cant help, I had no issues at all (except dropping the allen wrench). I honestly am not sure what you're talking about. Maybe you should post a video.
#4
Le Mans Master
I would think that the reverse lockout solenoid would only be able to activate if the car was on since it is designed to activate when the car is moving forward. Sounds like you just do not have the shifter aligned right.
If it works when you start the car, just drive it and see what happens. The mounting screws definitely have nothing to do with the solenoid.
If it works when you start the car, just drive it and see what happens. The mounting screws definitely have nothing to do with the solenoid.
Last edited by TEXHAWK0; 03-11-2018 at 10:22 AM.
#5
Safety Car
That’s one of the reasons that I quit working on cars.Frustration after frustation.I believe in trickle down economics.I just go and hire everything done.The wallet might be A lighter but
No frustration.
I know that’s not what you wanted to hear.I would say go spend some money,lol.
No frustration.
I know that’s not what you wanted to hear.I would say go spend some money,lol.
#6
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Did it once before no issues, re-watched the videos multiple times. No alignment tool, but I had no problems before eyeballing it.
I'll take a video next crack at it. Waiting on my order for a C7 shaft and some sound deadening.
I think the same on the solenoid, but it is just a strange coincident that Ignition on/engine off lets reverse happen.
I would try driving it, but waiting on my replacement shaft. Plus my steering wheel airbag is apart atm too attempting to remove the center steering mounting screw LOL. That thing is on there tight...
Working on my car is my getaway. Doesn't feel as much currently
I would think that the reverse lockout solenoid would only be able to activate if the car was on since it is designed to activate when the car is moving forward. Sounds like you just do not have the shifter aligned right.
If it works when you start the car, just drive it and see what happens. The mounting screws definitely have nothing to do with the solenoid.
If it works when you start the car, just drive it and see what happens. The mounting screws definitely have nothing to do with the solenoid.
I would try driving it, but waiting on my replacement shaft. Plus my steering wheel airbag is apart atm too attempting to remove the center steering mounting screw LOL. That thing is on there tight...
That’s one of the reasons that I quit working on cars.Frustration after frustation.I believe in trickle down economics.I just go and hire everything done.The wallet might be A lighter but
No frustration.
I know that’s not what you wanted to hear.I would say go spend some money,lol.
No frustration.
I know that’s not what you wanted to hear.I would say go spend some money,lol.
#8
Burning Brakes
It has been mentioned a few times that you can’t shift into reverse when the car is off with the MGW shifter. I can confirm this on my car. Once you hit the ignition their should be no issue getting into Reverse. With everything bolted, are you not able to shift into Reverse with the ignition on?
#9
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
It has been mentioned a few times that you can’t shift into reverse when the car is off with the MGW shifter. I can confirm this on my car. Once you hit the ignition their should be no issue getting into Reverse. With everything bolted, are you not able to shift into Reverse with the ignition on?
Just asking why is it that you cannot go into reverse with the ignition off? I have not found any threads mentioning this.
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Maybe the unit for the C6 and the C7 aren't identical??? Seems like the simplest possible explanation to me.
#11
Instructor
Did you make sure the car is in neutral before aligning ? I made the mistake of leaving the car in 4th gear as the video stated to make it easier to remove part around the gear shift. It would not go into 2nd then I realized what I did and realigned it in neutral and has been working great ever since .
#12
Instructor
My install was straight forward, none of the reverse issues you are experiencing. I did have the alignment tool which simplified the process, however eyeballing it should work. A key point is that the transmission should be in neutral during the install.
Reverse should be a non-issue, actually an easier gear to engage with MGW.
Keep us informed on what you find to resolve this.
#13
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
So here is a quick video I made.
To note, reverse will randomly lockout while I was in there fiddling about. Every time I turned ignition on, it would unlock and stay unlocked for unknown amount of time after ignition off.
Strange...
To note, reverse will randomly lockout while I was in there fiddling about. Every time I turned ignition on, it would unlock and stay unlocked for unknown amount of time after ignition off.
Strange...
#15
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Followed exactly what X25 did here:
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...post1592597092
Used a torch and heat wrap, touched off the bolt for ~5 seconds. Had the wheel turned full left, but the breaker on it, and turned that sucker off.
Now just waiting for the replacement bolt from CULTRAG.
Leaving it as is for now. Will report back any driving issues if it comes up. Can't make much moves at the moment with all the snow.
#16
Instructor
After watching your video again I went back and compared to a picture of the MGW shifter I recently purchased from MGW. There is a difference, my understanding is MGW modified the shifter for C7.
I question if this would cause the intermittent problem you are having, however have you contacted MGW to verify if there are issues with moving the shifter from C6 to C7?
I question if this would cause the intermittent problem you are having, however have you contacted MGW to verify if there are issues with moving the shifter from C6 to C7?
#17
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
After watching your video again I went back and compared to a picture of the MGW shifter I recently purchased from MGW. There is a difference, my understanding is MGW modified the shifter for C7.
I question if this would cause the intermittent problem you are having, however have you contacted MGW to verify if there are issues with moving the shifter from C6 to C7?
I question if this would cause the intermittent problem you are having, however have you contacted MGW to verify if there are issues with moving the shifter from C6 to C7?
Little update. My MGW is marked as C5 / C6. Does not say C7, but my understanding is they're all the same.
I haven't reached out to MGW. May notify them of this. I don't feel like testing this again with the stock shifter.
I have driven around with the MGW as-is and have found no issues with everyday driving. It WILL block off reverse when the car is OFF, but there is no real reason I have found to do that. If parking on a hill, I'd just turn the ignition ON and put it in R. No biggie.