Finally can reset OLM
03-14-2018, 12:11 AM
#41
Joe, you are the king of going down rabbit holes and started this entire ridiculous discussion. Changing oil is so freaking cheap and simple. Even you should be able to understand that, as well as that tilting at windmills is a fool's errand.
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03-14-2018, 12:12 AM
#42
It's lunacy to think that oil changes need to be GMVISed.
03-14-2018, 12:14 AM
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It appears we have a few preschoolers in this thread. 
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03-14-2018, 12:19 AM
#44
Yep, I'm done with trying to communicate with them. Internal ignore button is now permanently on.
He can't seem to figure out that neither I, nor anyone else ever said GMVIS is grounds for denying warranty claims and provided guidance for alternative means for complying with warranty guidance. It's just the easiest method for playing it safe. MAGA.
He can't seem to figure out that neither I, nor anyone else ever said GMVIS is grounds for denying warranty claims and provided guidance for alternative means for complying with warranty guidance. It's just the easiest method for playing it safe. MAGA.
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03-14-2018, 12:23 AM
#45
I have no argument. That's what has become the folly of some here.
You might want to inspect/respond to my questions posed well beforehand. My questions were simple enough. What convoluted them were the rabbit holes some like Foosh chose to go off on. As well as the lady you just responded to.
You might want to inspect/respond to my questions posed well beforehand. My questions were simple enough. What convoluted them were the rabbit holes some like Foosh chose to go off on. As well as the lady you just responded to.
At this point, none of us understand what your real question is.
otherwise I'm done.
03-14-2018, 12:38 AM
#46
I then restated the (2) focal points above.
Foosh engineered it into an oil free for all thread. Now, my GM factory warranty validity has been zeroed in on.
I'm afraid to start my car without the engine blowing up.
03-14-2018, 12:40 AM
#47
You and others responded to things I never even brought up.
I then restated the (2) focal points above.
Foosh engineered it into an oil free for all thread. Now, my GM factory warranty validity has been zeroed in on.
I'm afraid to start my car without the engine blowing up.
I then restated the (2) focal points above.
Foosh engineered it into an oil free for all thread. Now, my GM factory warranty validity has been zeroed in on.
I'm afraid to start my car without the engine blowing up.
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03-14-2018, 01:15 AM
#48
Still must have a default to zero based on time, if after 1-year. Suppose you've driven it zero miles. It'd be a no-brainer that the oil and filter are still new. So, why would it be necessary to do so?
Guess I'm not understanding completely. If the system times out miles left to change in 1-year time anyway, it won't matter how many miles you've driven. The call will be to change oil/filter after 1-year, even if your new oil and filter isn't driven even one mile. Right?
Explain how GM is going to prove whether or not the oil/filter was changed? Esp. when resetting the OLM has nothing to do with changing the oil & filter?........
Guess I'm not understanding completely. If the system times out miles left to change in 1-year time anyway, it won't matter how many miles you've driven. The call will be to change oil/filter after 1-year, even if your new oil and filter isn't driven even one mile. Right?
Explain how GM is going to prove whether or not the oil/filter was changed? Esp. when resetting the OLM has nothing to do with changing the oil & filter?........
Right about here ^^^^ is where Foosh and one other went off the rails.
So, now, Foosh has decided that GM will void my factory warranty.
My C7 is less than 4-months old, and has 905 miles on it.
03-14-2018, 01:34 AM
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At this point you should just enjoy your Vette, follow the OLM and not worry.
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03-14-2018, 07:29 AM
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Right we agree, and all I said all along. Now that wasn't so hard was it?
I'm well aware of cases on many vehicles where people have never changed the oil, and after 50K miles, the engines still haven't blown up. It's only when they do on rare occasion that the problems begin for those who haven't been smart.
I'm well aware of cases on many vehicles where people have never changed the oil, and after 50K miles, the engines still haven't blown up. It's only when they do on rare occasion that the problems begin for those who haven't been smart.
03-14-2018, 07:46 AM
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03-14-2018, 07:56 AM
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I didn't care for the way you communicated it, in light of the fact that following the guidance is so cheap and simple. You can legitimately question GM's guidance as a knowledgeable engineer, but until it's changed, that's an exercise in futility. Most importantly, it just confuses those who are already confused even further, which is a not so subtle and important difference.
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03-14-2018, 08:32 AM
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And we agree on that point as well.
I didn't care for the way you communicated it, in light of the fact that following the guidance is so cheap and simple. You can legitimately question GM's guidance as a knowledgeable engineer, but until it's changed, that's an exercise in futility. Most importantly, it just confuses those who are already confused even further, which is a not so subtle and important difference.
I didn't care for the way you communicated it, in light of the fact that following the guidance is so cheap and simple. You can legitimately question GM's guidance as a knowledgeable engineer, but until it's changed, that's an exercise in futility. Most importantly, it just confuses those who are already confused even further, which is a not so subtle and important difference.
03-14-2018, 10:07 AM
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Try running 87 octane on a 100 degree day and going full throttle. The sounds your engine makes will make you cringe. The computer won't be able to take out enough timing to keep it from pinging.
And most definitely you'll destroy and LT4 almost right away, as they even say not to run less than 91.
03-14-2018, 10:12 AM
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Try running 87 octane on a 100 degree day and going full throttle. The sounds your engine makes will make you cringe. The computer won't be able to take out enough timing to keep it from pinging.
And most definitely you'll destroy and LT4 almost right away, as they even say not to run less than 91.
And most definitely you'll destroy and LT4 almost right away, as they even say not to run less than 91.
Here in Michigan 100 degree days are not a problem. Most people run cars which recommend premium with regular. I personally don't, but there is nothing wrong with it.
03-14-2018, 10:32 AM
#58
That recommendation has changed. The 18 owner's manual now clearly says 87 is not recommended.
03-14-2018, 11:47 AM
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I posted the most simple post of all time, and it just won't die.
Note, I changed the oil before I let it go to zero.
Note, I changed the oil before I let it go to zero.
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03-14-2018, 12:02 PM
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That like the oil change strikes me as GM doing a slipshod engineering job on the initial C7 development. An extended warranty is looking more like a must have than a want.