dvilin

You and your dumb questions certainly would not be missed.

Garret

No one seemed to bother to even ask where he was and just decided to chastise him based on the speed limit. As I said, we are talking 10 MPH difference here and people are all up in arms when in fact like you just said, oh, 90 on the highway is different...well I hate to tell you, maybe he was on a 45 MPH highway/road in the middle of nowhere. Either way...it's a bunch of people with little to no info all holier then thou....kind of hilarious....

PatternDayTrader

Trust me pal, the average age of a Corvette owner is not the problem here. The claim you made in the original post is offensive, so you shouldn't be surprised when people are offended. Go find a deserted stretch of highway in west Tx or i80 through Wyoming if you want to drive that fast. No one cares you went ninety mph, everyone does that sooner or later. Just don't do it in areas where other people are nearby. This is not complicated.

golden2husky

As another LI resident I agree 100%. Now doing 90 in a 45 where that road is single lane in each direction on the near-edge of town is foolish. That said, highway speeds are not scientifically set. They are 100% politically or financially driven. Those highways that were 75 or 80 in the late sixties where America drove bias plies, drum brakes, and wallowy suspensions are often now 55 or 65 in cars that are far more capable at higher speeds yet we are denied the ability to legally use them.

A classic example is the road that is 50 that suddenly goes to 35 for a half mile then back to 50. No driveways, changes in the road, etc. just the drop. That is a revenue generating station. There is one of those between Breckenridge Colorado and Keystone. I got bagged for 50 in 35 to the tune of a couple of hundred bucks. Hope it was worth it to them as the next four ski trips were in Utah because of it. A gain of $200 for a loss of $20K spent locally on those four trips.

PatternDayTrader

There is no such thing as a 45 mph zone that's safe to travel at 90. No additional information is needed. The offense is egregious due to the level of unnecessary risk, and not the rate of speed alone.

Garret

You are still not getting this....What is the difference between 45 and 55 where people do over the speed limit? THat's right 10 MPH....it's not the posted speed limit, it's where the road is...which only 1 person asked about. Now I agree if he was in a residential area, dumb....but there again, no one asked and no one has any clue where he was.

golden2husky

Sounds tasty...and I know I'd be in that for fun whenever I could. I'm not hung up on high speed but I love g-forces!

PatternDayTrader

The claim made by the OP was 90 in a 45, that's not ten over its 45 over.
My complaint is the unnecessary level of risk and not just the rate of speed.
Residential, commercial or industrial, ninety in a forty five, means you have bad judgement, and its time to revaluate what your doing.
For the record, I have zero problem with people who speed ( even excessively) as long as its done in a careful and calculated way.
Recklessness is offensive.

1SG_Ret

My fun zone is from 0-5 MPH to just under 10MPH over the posted limit (57-59 in a 50MPH for a short burst). Generally, fun to get that push back into the seat but find that the C7 and other high HP performance cars in that category can limit that "fun zone" to just a couple of ticks on the second hand before you have to shut down or risk LE intervention.

I have a JCW tuned Mini Cooper w/ around 230 WHP and find that it is a lot more fun to drive that slow car fast than a fast car slow.

I usually drive the speed limit but when I do exceed it, I always keep it no more that 7-9 MPH over the posted limit.

fsvoboda

You always want to be able to say, "Officer, he may have been racing, but I wasn't racing."

champs65

fsvoboda

Carvin

Mods, mods! Fsvoboda posted a picture of me without my permission!

davepl

I had a Vette by 34. Paid cash too. You know how when you open a .zip file it acts like a folder? I wrote that. Sold it to Microsoft. Bought my first Corvette with with it.

Got a better story? Didn't think so. ;-)

PatternDayTrader

Lol ... I'm betting things turned out well after that.

ExRedRacer

See post #70.

OP has not responded to my question posted there, so naturally we are going to assume the worst.

Finally, it appears that the OP has not been getting the answers he was looking for and has turned to insults when he didn't get his way....from post #98:

"Hate to say it but most people on this forum and the real corvette owners I have encountered on the street are around 70, drive like old grandmas and the only reason they own the Corvette is so they can wash and wax it weekly and drive it once a month at 10 miles under the speed limit to the grocery store and back. At 34 im sure Im one of the youngest corvette owners here. Yes, I know someone here will say back in 1953 they got their first vette at 21 years old but tell me how many guys NOW in 2018 get one around 30? Sometimes I wonder if I should have gotten a Nissan GTR or a Porsche 911 just so I could be in a community of well rounded people of all ages and backgrounds instead of just angry, old, senile men."

There are those who learn from the experiences of others and avoid trouble and those who hear those experiences but don't listen.

joemessman

Yes. We have a road in AZ that is 45 and it is nice and straight and you can see for miles! One problem.....when you hit one of those Dips you'll go flying, that is if the bumper that was just torn off stops you.
In most instances where 45 limits are not apparent soon become apparent.

SD_Dave

I agree 100%. And BTW, a Miata is a perfect choice for someone who likes to drive a car fast. I had a souped up Miata way back and it was a blast. You never really go that fast but you FEEL like you are. Its really true: Driving a slow car fast is more fun than driving a fast car slow. Its a safer (and cheaper) way to get your kicks.

JoesC5

I'm 75 and I now of several dozen of my peers(old farts including a grandma in her Callaway GS SC606) that have driven their Corvettes at speeds between 120 and 150, many times. The trick is to know where and when to do it, so it's safe and you won't end up in jail.

I've have driven my Z06 at 162, but it was on a track, and driving the 36 degree high banked turns takes a little more skill than driving down a perfectly straight highway.

boxster99t

I've been reading this thread with much amusement--I am carefully putting on my flame retardant undies. Here we go--I feel a bit like someone who stands up at an AA meeting. I have on many occasions exceeded the posted speed limit by double in very short bursts, and speed alone doesn't make it dangerous. Granted, the faster one is traveling and the greater the rate of acceleration, the faster you will come up on trouble and the distance to stop or slow down increases. How does one do this safely? Well, first off, let's take a quiz. Without thinking about it, the next time you're in your C7 make a note of where your eyes are looking through the windshield as if there is an imaginary horizontal line right in the middle of the windshield.

Are you looking above or below that line? Looking above that line casts your gaze much farther out in front and enables your peripheral vision to to see in close to 180 degree arc; you won't see all that if you're looking below the line. This is a basic racer's skill you probably never where taught in street driving.

Also, when you're driving, where are your hands and how far away from the wheel are you sitting? 3 and 9, with a good amount of bend in your elbows sitting fairly straight, holding the wheel firmly but not too tightly so you can make smooth steering, brake and throttle inputs? Or are you one-handing it doing the "Detroit lean" (I'm originally from Ohio and the Detroit lean is slang for driving what was then 70 vintage Caddy's, Chryslers, Lincolns with ping-pong table long hoods where you would see the driver's wrist resting at 12 o'clock on the wheel, tooling around town--but I digress)?

How do you brake normally? Most folks apply the brakes progressively putting more force down as they close in on their desired stopping point, but when you're road racing, you are taught to get on the brakes hard at the start, and get off them. That difference allows for the shortest braking distance even with an ABS car. Big brakes and how to use them to greatest effect is important the faster you want to drive.

Are you paying attention to your driving or are you chatting or worse texting with a companion? You would be surprised at how much the act of talking can affect your reaction times at higher and higher speeds.

And of course, as others have said where is this 45 mph road at and what are the traffic conditions, those are obviously factors that enter into the mix.

I have to tell you that I and everyone else driving a C7 can hit 90 mph taking off from a dead stop and be back down to the posted speed limit, very quickly. And very often with no car around you--unless you're racing another car (which is dangerous on the street) or you're overtaking cars in front of you, what I consider a normal fun acceleration away from a stop light, even just up to the speed limit leaves every other car well behind my car (and that's true when I'm driving my slowest car, a 67 Corvette convertible 327 powerglide car that a V-6 Honda Accord could be beat to 60 mph).

It's incumbent on the driver to use his or her judgment and drive within his or her skills, the conditions present, and not try to overcome the laws of physics. Have you heard track junkies talk about going X tenths--meaning for example 5/10 or 6/10's of what the car and driver is capable of in a given situation?

Some folks are freaked out by the sensation of speed, for example, and that's nothing to be ashamed of. When I'm in my C7 or my 997 honestly (aside from the time it takes to stop and slow down) 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 90, 100-135 mph, pretty much anything less than 150 mph--I don't feel a sensation of speed that distracts me from the skill techniques outlined above.

We certainly live in a world full of drivers who are better off not driving fast, and the way to learn is on the track (if you've not guessed, I've done a lot of that--logged thousands of track miles as we've got long seasons down here in Texas and several road course tracks to choose from).

So no, I for one will not say categorically that driving twice the posted speed limit is unsafe anywhere, at any time.

I use all the above technics instinctively now after years and thousands of miles on the track--and yes, I've done 90 in a 45. Oh, and I forgot other personal rules: I do not disable the "nannies" on the street ever, I don't do this after having a drink, and if I have a passenger, I don't do any of this because (like the fine print in commercials) I don't want anyone to mimic my driving. They're not going to have an appreciation for what is going on other than I'm on the gas hard/going fast for a brief moment.

Ok, I'm done now. That's my two cents.