After driving the car for a month, the dealer ask me more money! Need some help
03-21-2018, 04:58 AM
#41
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03-21-2018, 08:54 AM
#42
Drifting
I believe this is a tax issue.
The OP said he gave them two addresses. The one where he lives, and the one on his drivers licence, which he has not changed even though he has lived somewhere else for 3 years (illegal).
He also quoted the dealer when he challenged them with talking to an attorney (false information) who asked if he told his attorney about the two addresses.
I'm guessing the dealer calculated sales tax based on one address, and in the end found out the car would be registered somewhere else with a higher tax rate and needs to be made whole.
I don't think the dealer is trying to swindle anyone, just be made whole for sales tax paid to the state. I think the OP needs to pay.
I could be totally off base, but this is how i read the original post.
The OP said he gave them two addresses. The one where he lives, and the one on his drivers licence, which he has not changed even though he has lived somewhere else for 3 years (illegal).
He also quoted the dealer when he challenged them with talking to an attorney (false information) who asked if he told his attorney about the two addresses.
I'm guessing the dealer calculated sales tax based on one address, and in the end found out the car would be registered somewhere else with a higher tax rate and needs to be made whole.
I don't think the dealer is trying to swindle anyone, just be made whole for sales tax paid to the state. I think the OP needs to pay.
I could be totally off base, but this is how i read the original post.
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03-21-2018, 09:10 AM
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I believe this is a tax issue.
The OP said he gave them two addresses. The one where he lives, and the one on his drivers licence, which he has not changed even though he has lived somewhere else for 3 years (illegal).
He also quoted the dealer when he challenged them with talking to an attorney (false information) who asked if he told his attorney about the two addresses.
I'm guessing the dealer calculated sales tax based on one address, and in the end found out the car would be registered somewhere else with a higher tax rate and needs to be made whole.
I don't think the dealer is trying to swindle anyone, just be made whole for sales tax paid to the state. I think the OP needs to pay.
I could be totally off base, but this is how i read the original post.
The OP said he gave them two addresses. The one where he lives, and the one on his drivers licence, which he has not changed even though he has lived somewhere else for 3 years (illegal).
He also quoted the dealer when he challenged them with talking to an attorney (false information) who asked if he told his attorney about the two addresses.
I'm guessing the dealer calculated sales tax based on one address, and in the end found out the car would be registered somewhere else with a higher tax rate and needs to be made whole.
I don't think the dealer is trying to swindle anyone, just be made whole for sales tax paid to the state. I think the OP needs to pay.
I could be totally off base, but this is how i read the original post.
03-21-2018, 09:11 AM
#44
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I believe this is a tax issue.
The OP said he gave them two addresses. The one where he lives, and the one on his drivers licence, which he has not changed even though he has lived somewhere else for 3 years (illegal).
He also quoted the dealer when he challenged them with talking to an attorney (false information) who asked if he told his attorney about the two addresses.
I'm guessing the dealer calculated sales tax based on one address, and in the end found out the car would be registered somewhere else with a higher tax rate and needs to be made whole.
I don't think the dealer is trying to swindle anyone, just be made whole for sales tax paid to the state. I think the OP needs to pay.
I could be totally off base, but this is how i read the original post.
The OP said he gave them two addresses. The one where he lives, and the one on his drivers licence, which he has not changed even though he has lived somewhere else for 3 years (illegal).
He also quoted the dealer when he challenged them with talking to an attorney (false information) who asked if he told his attorney about the two addresses.
I'm guessing the dealer calculated sales tax based on one address, and in the end found out the car would be registered somewhere else with a higher tax rate and needs to be made whole.
I don't think the dealer is trying to swindle anyone, just be made whole for sales tax paid to the state. I think the OP needs to pay.
I could be totally off base, but this is how i read the original post.
03-21-2018, 09:27 AM
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OP, maybe to put yourself at ease you could calculate the tax difference between the different addresses that the dealer had you residing at. If it equals the amount they say you owe, then there is your answer. I had the opposite happen, out of state dealer calculated too much tax. They immediately sent me a check upon obtaining the title for the vehicle. Due to the time (2 months) I'd lean towards the problem being a tax issue vs they suddenly realized they needed more money for the vehicle.
03-21-2018, 10:18 AM
#46
Le Mans Master
They don't call them Stealerships for nothing. If it is anything but a sales tax, or registration issue - I would not pay. If it is something related to the Gooberment taxes/DMV, pay'em.
03-21-2018, 11:12 AM
#47
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Been following this "cluster f#$%" with interest, and just to get this straight, this is a used 201X, C7, Yellow Z51, 3LT, that probably was originally titled in Virginia(?) and the dealer insisted on doing the tag & title transferring to California from their end, rather than just selling the car to you and let you do the tag/title transferring??
Dealing with a DMV in one state is difficult enough, but having to deal with two of them and throwing a dealership in the middle of all this...
You have my deepest sympathy...
Dealing with a DMV in one state is difficult enough, but having to deal with two of them and throwing a dealership in the middle of all this...
You have my deepest sympathy...
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03-21-2018, 12:23 PM
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Send a certified letter (return receipt requested) demanding the plate and registration pursuant to the purchase agreement, then turn everything over to an attorney, or go register it yourself and buy your own plate and sue for those costs. Litigation isn't for everyone but I would sue just to upset my counter parties. Plus this issue is probably very clear once you read the purchase agreement, and as long as you are on the proper side of it, then they will just settle because that's what their legal counsel will tell them to do.
03-21-2018, 12:26 PM
#49
I believe this is a tax issue.
The OP said he gave them two addresses. The one where he lives, and the one on his drivers licence, which he has not changed even though he has lived somewhere else for 3 years (illegal).
He also quoted the dealer when he challenged them with talking to an attorney (false information) who asked if he told his attorney about the two addresses.
I'm guessing the dealer calculated sales tax based on one address, and in the end found out the car would be registered somewhere else with a higher tax rate and needs to be made whole.
I don't think the dealer is trying to swindle anyone, just be made whole for sales tax paid to the state. I think the OP needs to pay.
I could be totally off base, but this is how i read the original post.
The OP said he gave them two addresses. The one where he lives, and the one on his drivers licence, which he has not changed even though he has lived somewhere else for 3 years (illegal).
He also quoted the dealer when he challenged them with talking to an attorney (false information) who asked if he told his attorney about the two addresses.
I'm guessing the dealer calculated sales tax based on one address, and in the end found out the car would be registered somewhere else with a higher tax rate and needs to be made whole.
I don't think the dealer is trying to swindle anyone, just be made whole for sales tax paid to the state. I think the OP needs to pay.
I could be totally off base, but this is how i read the original post.
03-21-2018, 12:28 PM
#50
OP, maybe to put yourself at ease you could calculate the tax difference between the different addresses that the dealer had you residing at. If it equals the amount they say you owe, then there is your answer. I had the opposite happen, out of state dealer calculated too much tax. They immediately sent me a check upon obtaining the title for the vehicle. Due to the time (2 months) I'd lean towards the problem being a tax issue vs they suddenly realized they needed more money for the vehicle.
03-21-2018, 12:35 PM
#51
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Just some food for thought here. Getting an attorney can be useful, but one in this case can cost you more than you owe after just one day of attorney fees(unless one will take the case for pay upon winning). In my experience of working with attorney's tells me it would be near impossible to fine one that will do that in this case. That's the "over the barrel" I was talking about in my first post. It's a tough situation the dealer has put you in, and with them holding your registration and tags they've got you between that old rock and a hard spot. I hope it comes out in your favor.
Legal entanglements can be a real hassle. Mostly because you are almost never awarded attorney fees, also because if the defendant is someone who has an oversize presence in the area, then its hard to even find a firm that wont conflict out.
Knowing all this, I would still pay whatever I had to pay in order to get my registration and plates directly from the dmv, then sue for those costs, plus fees and expenses afterwards, but id rather spend the money than let someone screw me over and get away with it.
Each to their own, that's how I roll.
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03-21-2018, 12:45 PM
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I agree in principal.
Legal entanglements can be a real hassle. Mostly because you are almost never awarded attorney fees, also because if the defendant is someone who has an oversize presence in the area, then its hard to even find a firm that wont conflict out.
Knowing all this, I would still pay whatever I had to pay in order to get my registration and plates directly from the dmv, then sue for those costs, plus fees and expenses afterwards, but id rather spend the money than let someone screw me over and get away with it.
Each to their own, that's how I roll.
Legal entanglements can be a real hassle. Mostly because you are almost never awarded attorney fees, also because if the defendant is someone who has an oversize presence in the area, then its hard to even find a firm that wont conflict out.
Knowing all this, I would still pay whatever I had to pay in order to get my registration and plates directly from the dmv, then sue for those costs, plus fees and expenses afterwards, but id rather spend the money than let someone screw me over and get away with it.
Each to their own, that's how I roll.
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03-21-2018, 12:50 PM
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03-21-2018, 01:08 PM
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03-21-2018, 01:11 PM
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03-21-2018, 01:34 PM
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03-21-2018, 01:54 PM
#58
My thoughts: The contract is based on the agreements on both sides, the tax, license fee were listed in the contract. And I did pay that amount, so I have met my obligation. I purchased car because I was satisfied with the "out door price" which consists of the price of the car and tags. If the amount was what I paid +700 dollars, then I would not buy it. If I have to pay the tax by myself and all tags were not listed in the contract, I will pay whatever I am supposed to pay. But the dealer told me they would handle all the paperwork and collect the tax, then I don't think I should pay beyond the amount in the contract, otherwise what is the point of the contract? As for the address part, I honestly only gave one address to them but I don't know why they keep using the address on my driver license, which I did not tell them to do so.
03-21-2018, 01:55 PM
#59
This who deal sounds very strange, sorry I don't have anything to add other than good luck.
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03-21-2018, 02:11 PM
#60
Le Mans Master
It should be VERY easy to determine what all the taxes/fees are without a problem. You should be able to tell if you owe anything else. did they send you a itemized statement defining the shortfall?