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Old 03-24-2018, 12:36 PM
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This morning, I washed my 2014 daily driver. For the first time, I noticed crazing in the transparent top. Is there a fix or do I have to find a new top?
Old 03-24-2018, 12:37 PM
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new top. happened to my C6. loved the top. hated the craze..
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What exactly is crazing? Pics?
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Old 03-24-2018, 01:19 PM
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Geez......sorry to read about this. Under warranty, I hope?
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I have an extended warranty. I don’t think it covers body panels.
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Originally Posted by MMD
What exactly is crazing? Pics?
"Crazing is the phenomenon that produces a network of fine cracks on the surface of a material, for example in a glaze layer. Crazing frequently precedes fracture in some glassy thermoplastic polymers. Crazing occurs in regions of high hydrostatic tension, or in regions of very localized yielding, which leads to the formation of interpenetrating microvoids and small fibrils." - Wikipedia.

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Originally Posted by MMD
What exactly is crazing? Pics?
Crazing, are hairline or spiderwebbing cracks. They may be surface cracks, or imbedded/subterranean cracks visible to the eye.
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Wondering if the orange peel deniers will show up here too, claiming crazing doesn't happen to C7 transparent roof panels?
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I took it out in the sun, but can’t get it in a photo with my iPhone. The crazing has been reported in the C6 forum. For now, my roof has what appears to be superficial lines. Looks like what happens to polycarbonate headlights.
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Originally Posted by mschuyler
"Crazing is the phenomenon that produces a network of fine cracks on the surface of a material, for example in a glaze layer. Crazing frequently precedes fracture in some glassy thermoplastic polymers. Crazing occurs in regions of high hydrostatic tension, or in regions of very localized yielding, which leads to the formation of interpenetrating microvoids and small fibrils." - Wikipedia.

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Thanks MS. This post sounded crazy. Thought there was a mis-spelling of “cracked” here. You do see a lot of mis-spelling here on the CF. But since you interceded, then we’ll go with your explanation.
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What pisses me off is the fact that carbon fiber tops were on constraint when I ordered my car. I was forced to pay extra for a transparent top that I really didn’t want.

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Originally Posted by MMD
[left]Thanks MS. This post sounded crazy. Thought there was a mis-spelling of “cracked” here. You do see a lot of mis-spelling here on the CF. But since you interceded, then we’ll go with your explanation.
Certainly, there's misspelled words, but mostly because of illiteracy or typos. Crazing, is a 《rather》 common term.
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Originally Posted by SRQStingray
This morning, I washed my 2014 daily driver. For the first time, I noticed crazing in the transparent top. Is there a fix or do I have to find a new top?
Oh dear I knew I should have ordered the solid top. I do think the Lexan top can be painted or maybe vinyl covered if it gets really bad looking.
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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe
Crazing, are hairline or spiderwebbing cracks. They may be surface cracks, or imbedded/subterranean cracks visible to the eye.
In my engineering classes way back when we referred to this phenomenon as thermal stress cracking. Happens often when plastics, glasses, or ceramics are cooled unevenly and/or rapidly (from their molten state). Definitely a manufacturing defect. Should be under warranty.
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Although not likely, some cleaning agents and industrial pollutants can also attack this material causing crazing.
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Originally Posted by NSC5
Although not likely, some cleaning agents and industrial pollutants can also attack this material causing crazing.
Interesting phenomenon. Never heard of this before. Do you have any experience with this or can you make a citation.

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That is bizarre. My C5's still perfect.

New ones from China? (the GM optional spash-guards are)
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Originally Posted by MMD
Interesting phenomenon. Never heard of this before. Do you have any experience with this or can you make a citation.


I believe the mineral deposits in hard water can do it. I don't know whether it is alkaline or acidic, though. Around here we need to dry off immediately after washing because the well water is so harsh. You can't let it air dry with evaporation because that's when it happens. Incidentally, I first heard the term when applied to pottery where it is sometimes desirable.
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Originally Posted by MMD
Interesting phenomenon. Never heard of this before. Do you have any experience with this or can you make a citation.
Do a search on chemical crazing of polycarbonate and you will find quite a bit. I was aware of this problem through an acquaintance in the electronics component industry who traced failure of a insulator/spacer made with a polycarb formulation to a cleaning agent used by the purchasing company during a subsequent manufacturing step.

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