C5Driver

No Chrysler is having the same stalling issues on the Pacifica minivan. What it is the timing magnets (cam position sensors) the cam gets out of sync and causes an engine stall. It can also be caused by the ecm not being able to determine where the cam position is because it’s not getting the proper pulse from the timing magnets and Volla! mass confusion of the BCM as to what plugs need to fire and boink..a stall.

DALE#3

I would ask for some literature on your cam swap or what part a cam has to do with the Engine not starting.
Can't be the first?Well it's the 1st i can recall being here.
Gonna search in technical section,now.
Guessing on the 4cyl.activation system with the lifters.Must be a dead short draw on the battery while parked.

smajicek

My First Vette

The service advisor yesterday over the phone said it was the cam and the engine would have to be removed. Just got back from the dealer and seems like you're right. I get a better explanation. The diagnostic is showing it's the cam position sensor. They're running a more checks to verify and believe it's either the camp position sensor or the sensor wiring. As it stands, they would only have to remove front end components to replace the sensor so the engine won't be removed. Each of the service reps that I've spoken with have assured me that the technician working my vehicle is highly qualified and extremely meticulous. I'm feeling much more confident with the technician and the service department at this point.

I did not get pictures of the vehicle in the shop but the shop is extremely clean and tidy which is a good sign and they seem to be taking very good care of the other vehicles from what I was able to observe during my visit. Hope they can fix this soon. Weather is finally clearing up here and I'm eager to get it home to do a foam wash and wax followed by a nice long cruise through the Adirondacks.

Rebel Yell

It's good to hear the engine doesn't have to come out. I hope they have your baby home soon, and you can enjoy the summer. Good luck.

joemessman

All in all that's good news! We can all relax a little now.

PatternDayTrader

OK good .... Now check out this guys youtube videos and tell me if its the same thing your car was doing.
Watch the first 50 second video.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-corvette.html

My First Vette

That"s exactly what was going on with my corvette. Hopefully they'll fix it with the new cam sensor.

PatternDayTrader

Ok cool. Thanks for looking at that.

PatternDayTrader

You gotta be kidding me ! The other thread got locked !

Gearhead Jim

Just in case, I would keep a log of how long your car is in the shop each time (if more than once), and be double damn sure the paperwork from the dealer shows the correct dates in-out. Look up the lemon law standards in your state, hope you don't need them but be ready if needed.

Good luck, your car will probably be fine.

Rebel Yell

That is odd.

PatternDayTrader

I thought so too.
It seems like if a few cam sensors are going to conk out prematurely, then people would want to know about that. Especially if it starts out as an intermittent condition.
Even if this ends up not being the cam sensor, it still makes sense to keep track of different "crank no fire" problems.

smajicek

that thread that got closed posted by the deranged BBBBBBBBBB poster if you listen to that engine when it was running it sounded horrible, like a bent fan blade rubbing on the radiator in the old days? wonder what that was about?

PatternDayTrader

I would bet a lot of money on that having been the starter dragging on the flywheel. Probably because someone just kept pushing the start button over and over again even when there was no chance of it firing up. Obviously that's speculation on my part, but it sounds exactly like a starter dragging on the flywheel. Which sounds horrible in person, but really most of the time you just end up replacing the starter.

My First Vette

Latest update... Originally sales rep "A" said it was the battery and after charging it all was fine. After I expressed my concern, they kept the car for a day and it died on them during a test drive. Next, sales rep "A" told me it was a bad cam and they would have to pull the engine. Went I went in Saturday morning for clarification, sales rep "B" said it was a bad cam position sensor or wiring and they would remove a few front end components to repair the cam sensor. Finally, I called back this afternoon to see how long for the sensor repair but was told by sales rep "A" that it's a bad cam, they found metal shavings in the engine and bad thrust bearing(s). Today they started removing the engine and was told by sales rep "A" that they are trying to figure out if it's more cost effective FOR THEM to repair or replace the engine. He's researching parts now and doesn't have a timeframe. When I asked about a loaner car...."I don't have anything now, maybe tomorrow.
"

I baby this car so I know I didn't cause any of the damage.

DALE#3

Your better off with a new engine.I wouldn't want Metal Shavings in my Bearings! They will never clean that block properly unless they Strip it and Soak it..

My First Vette

I'm waiting for him to call tomorrow with an update but I don't believe I'll have the option of repair vs replace engine. It's all about what's best for them. How would you go about convincing them to install a new engine?

DALE#3

Why not? So,Metal Filings running threw your oil,into soft Bearing Material is OK?
Ask for free extended warranty if they will guarantee that metal in bearings won't hurt Engine Durability.

My First Vette

I hear you and completely agree with the replacement engine vs repair. Planning on going in again tomorrow to talk in person and get to the bottom of this.