ExRedRacer

Maybe that’s why. These engines are built to be run hard and need exercise.

Just a thought....

Bill Dearborn

The problem with CR is it is based on the actual users that are CR members. That is a select group of people and that automatically means the sample is biased. You can't take anything positive or negative out of the results. Another problem I have with CR and other reports is they include trips to the dealer to find out how to operate the electronics as a failure. Most of that is just dumb Customers.

Bill

patentcad

I'll never get why people need to rationalize GM's quality issues. In 2018, even cars that are below average in reliability are like 98% reliable anyway. I'm very happy with my 2017 Corvette, I hope my luck holds out, but I believe CR's consumer's surveys for the most part, even if I take everything with a grain of salt.

EVERYTHING.

Michael A

How is it biased if the same sampling method is applied to all vehicles?

Also if you look at the reports in detail, they have a lot more categories than just in-car electronics. The C7 has gotten low scores in many other categories.

911Hunter

Well it seems that no one of us care about CR & JD Powers when we bought our C7 Stingrays, we love our cars because of the dream car looks and its performance on par with many exotic European and japanese sport cars I didn't bought my '14 because of its reliability, if I compared with my prior sport cars, my '02 Porsche 911 Carrera was the worst one (I really hated that car) it was very unreliable but it's followed by my '14 Corvette because of its overheating issues, its water pump and electrical fan replaced under warranty.
My '05 Infiniti G35 coupe, was excellent not a problem followed by my '14 Camaro ZL1 and '11 Mustang GT 5.0
Coincidentally to the only two cars that I purchased an extended warranty were the Porsche and the Corvette because I didn't trust their reliability. On the others I didn't need one.
If I was looking for reliability I would purchase a Toyota or Honda which have been our regular DD for very long time, which are super reliable.
On other hand I have learned by experience that the recommendations by CR aren't always accurate to take them seriously, for a long time I was a suscriber and never purchased electronics or home equipment without checking them first, but later found that most of their recommendations were wrong having problems with most of them, until I followed my wife's advise of stop paying attention to them, and she was right. I stopped waisting my time and money reading their articles wich weren't accurate based on my own experience.

911Hunter

Well it seems that no one of us care about CR & JD Powers when we bought our C7 Stingrays, we love our cars because of its dream car looks and its performance that is on par with many exotic European and japanese sport cars, and best part it's American I didn't bought my '14 C7 because of its reliability, if I compared it with my prior sport cars, my '02 Porsche 911 Carrera was the worst one (I really hated that car) it was very unreliable, but it's followed by my '14 Corvette because of its overheating issues: its water pump and electrical fan replaced under warranty. And the automatic transmission A6 tends to overheat at the track.
My '05 Infiniti G35 coupe, it was excellent not a problem, followed closely by my '14 Camaro ZL1 and my '11 Mustang GT 5.0.
Coincidentally to the only two cars that I purchased an extended warranty were the Porsche and the Corvette because I didn't trust their reliability. On the others I didn't needed one.
If I was looking for reliability I would purchase a Toyota or a Honda vehicle, which have been our regular DD for very long time, and are super reliable.
On other hand I have learned by experience that the recommendations by CR aren't always accurate, to take them seriously, for a long time I was a suscriber and never purchased electronics or home equipment without checking them first. But later I found out that most of their recommendations were completely wrong, having us problems with most of them, until I followed my wife's advise of stop paying attention to them, and she was right. I stopped waisting my time and money reading their articles wich weren't accurate based on our own experience with them.

Rebel Yell

Here's the way I look at it. I'm fairly sure the guy that buys a new 911, or MB AMG isn't worried about the reliability of the car. They buy them for what they are. And, that's the reason I buy Corvette's. I figure if it breaks the dealer will fix it under warranty, of I'll pay to have it fixed. It's a Corvette, I've owned at least one for the last 30 years, and if at all possible there will be one in my garage for years to come. Reliability be damned.

badass1g

I have owned all of those years and I feel like the c7 is FAR better built and solid then them all. My C5 felt like such a pile. Knocks on wood.

VETTE-NV

Totally agree. The Corvette is purchase of passion, made more with your heart than with your head. It's not the same as buying an appliance or a computer. The last thing I care about when making such a decision is what Consumer Reports says about it....which makes the OP's original post even more irrelevant. If I ever want such information, there are many more credible and direct sources....even this forum for example would give more real world feedback than CR, although in the same way, you have take this place with a grain of salt. Too many people here have their own prejudices and agendas.

To me, purchasing a car like the Corvette is like a having a smokin' hot girlfriend....who is just a little bit crazy. The good will always outweigh the bad, but you have to be prepared for the occasional crazy.....and I'm just fine with that.

patentcad

Saying CR's findings are 'wrong' based on your own anecdotal experience means you don't understand research in general. The most laughable part of your post is how you put so much faith the unassailable reliability of brands like Toyota and Honda. Generally that works out, sometimes not so much.

Put your faith in God. When it comes to consumer goods, **** happens, and it all breaks.

JerriVette

Consumer reports says?

That’s like asking some fat 90 year old bitch what she likes about having sex?

ExRedRacer

Well said and I agree completely.

There are any number of vehicles out there that might be a little more economical, practical, useful and sensible. But I chose to buy a Corvette because it's been a lifelong dream of mine to own one regardless. Do you think that a less-than-stellar review from some magazine is going to keep me from my dream car?

I think not.

davepl

That's just silly. Other then the transmission and rear end, my Corvette has been rock solid reliable!

;-)

The only surveys I fill out are the JD Power ones that come with a $5 bill. Otherwise, the only time people generally fill these out is if they have an axe to grind, so how the prior cars rated "Excellent" I don't know.

Michael A

That's great!

Mister Big

What! I only got $1 last week when JD Power sent me a survey. I'm going to hold out for the additional $4 next time.

Michael A

The other $4 comes from GM after you give the car high ratings.

dvilin

Seriously Consumer Reports, oh my what to do now.

RCraigPorter

See my latest post (

1. C7 Engine failure / REBUILD at 4K Miles???) This would seem to confirm your findings and I am asking GM to replace this car.

kaplana08

Come on guys common sense dictates.. All the crazy problems posted here alone tell the story.. The C7 has one stupid problem after another. Cracking windshields. Torque converter disaster paint chipping on the panels. Warble noises. Radio info screen glitching out. Completely unheard of problems with other cars The C7 is the worst by far of any year. Replacing the torque converter is a tear down disaster. I own a C7 and they are not What GM said they would be.. But for you out there that complain remember GM has had a solid record of problem cars since the 70s THEY JUST DONT HAVE THE PEOPLE OR ABILITY TO COMPETE WITH japan Period. Ok now lets hear from the not mine group..

kaplana08

or for the money thats the best they can do.or Consumer Reports are not good. Come on Common sense here. If Mary Barra was worth her salt she would go in there and fire the whole C7 department and put some Japanese in charge.

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