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Old 06-05-2018, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by TriPinTaZ
40+ mpg would be a real boring drive for me.
He has the anti-hardass dad. "I drove to work 15 miles. Downhill both ways. With a tail wind."
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....cars' own trip/fuel consumption computers tend to be a bit optimistic; the old school keep track of miles and divide by gallons used is the only reasonably accurate measure....sorry
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....cars' own trip/fuel consumption computers tend to be a bit optimistic; the old school keep track of miles and divide by gallons used is the only reasonably accurate measure....sorry
Yep. I've religiously done this for everyone of my cars/trucks I've owned over the last 20+ years. (I file a Schedule C).
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My '15 Stingray A8 got slightly better mileage than my current '17 GS M7--but it was lighter, the body more aerodynamic, and gearing taller. Still, if I believe the MPG computer I get considerably higher than the EPA ratings for both cars, city and highway. With the GS I can usually muster 20-21 mpg in suburban driving and 30-31 mpg at a steady 70mph cruise with no wind influences in Eco mode, and it has been steadily improving as it breaks in, now at 6300 on the clock. I do practice some hypermiling without letting it detract from driving enjoyment, like when I see a red light ahead that I know I will be stopping for I'll put it in neutral and coast to it. That makes quite a bit of difference and it won't slow you down if you do it right.

What many might not know is that their MPG computer may not be accurate. For each fill-up I log all info into a database and while the '15 car's computer fudged 2-5% (high) the '17 has been 6-10% (high). That miffs me a bit since every other gauge in the car seems to be accurate, including the speedometer. So for example if you crunch the numbers that 30mpg you think you're getting may only be 28, which is closer to the EPA ratings.

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Originally Posted by iclick
My '15 Stingray A8 got slightly better mileage than my current '17 GS M7--but it was lighter, the body more aerodynamic, and gearing taller. Still, if I believe the MPG computer I get considerably higher than the EPA ratings for both cars, city and highway. With the GS I can usually muster 20-21 mpg in suburban driving and 30-31 mpg at a steady 70mph cruise with no wind influences in Eco mode, and it has been steadily improving as it breaks in, now at 6300 on the clock. I do practice some hypermiling without letting it detract from driving enjoyment, like when I see a red light ahead that I know I will be stopping for I'll put it in neutral and coast to it. That makes quite a bit of difference and it won't slow you down if you do it right.

What many might not know is that their MPG computer may not be accurate. For each fill-up I log all info into a database and while the '15 car's computer fudged 2-5% (high) the '17 has been 6-10% (high). That miffs me a bit since every other gauge in the car seems to be accurate, including the speedometer. So for example if you crunch the numbers that 30mpg you think you're getting may only be 28, which is closer to the EPA ratings.
My 2017 computer mpg error is consistent with yours. The root cause of the mpg error is due to the gallons used reading. Always less than actual. I always fill until the pump stops and record all data points. (Yep, I am a retired engineer)

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Originally Posted by dbirdhouse1
....cars' own trip/fuel consumption computers tend to be a bit optimistic; the old school keep track of miles and divide by gallons used is the only reasonably accurate measure....sorry
FWIW, I confirmed my 1200 mile trip the "old school way" and calculated 30.6 MPG vice the 30.9 "computed" value...

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You cared enough to open this thread and make a comment though
Incorrect.

Opening this thread was a Stupid Expedition.

Mission accomplished.

Carry on boys.
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Originally Posted by TriPinTaZ
40+ mpg would be a real boring drive for me.
Bring it way up to 1500rpm clear to 2000 rpm and shift plenty of excitement!
Old 06-06-2018, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Foosh
The numbers for manuals are the same 14-16. The 2014 auto was an A6. 15 autos on are A8s, and one would expect the 8-speed to yield slightly better mileage, which is the primary reason we're seeing autos growing more gears.
I mean this:

https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/comparempg.shtml

2016 Manual was - 17/29/21 is now 17/28/21
2019 Manual is 16/25/19

So if the "2017 transition" algorithm modifies the 2014-2016 highway mileage only then why is the 2019 so much worse.

That's the odd part. I'd expect the new MPG and the "adjusted" older MPG to be the same.
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over the life of my 2014, 20200 miles I have an average of 20.9 MPG (as this morning)... The MPG have gone down since I bought it and installed the range device

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Originally Posted by bigsapper
"Last 31 miles". lol, nice cherry picking. Guarantee your wallet doesn't agree with that.

lol.

You can call it cherry picking, but it's still pretty amazing to get that kind of gas mileage over any amount of distance, with a car that will run 11.5s in the quarter mile. Sure, I won't get that kind of MPG on a 500 mile highway trip, but I guarantee you it'll get well over 30. You can laugh at me if you like, but I'm still pretty damn happy at being able to take this awesome car on long trips and not have to spend a small fortune on gas. And in 10 years time when gas prices are double what they are now, I'll be even happier to have a sports car that is this frugal on gas.
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Originally Posted by NmtMev
This is real world ^^^^ Corvette.

That BS about 40+ mpg? What a /FRUITCAKE!
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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe
This is real world ^^^^ Corvette.

That BS about 40+ mpg? What a /FRUITCAKE!
It's not BS, it's real. Just because you can't achieve it running your stupid 87 octane, doesn't mean it's not true. You're a piece of work

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Maybe if I drove in all types of conditions by feathering the gas maybe I could get close to 40 mpg but I don't. Just saying....


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Old 06-07-2018, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Patman
It's not BS, it's real. Just because you can't achieve it running your stupid 87 octane, doesn't mean it's not true. You're a piece of work
You're the only fruitcake around here posting stupid claims of "40+ mpg'" You must be certifiably bonkers!
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These numerous postings showing mpg based on the "last 50 miles" or the "last 400 miles" strike me as largely irrelevant. They are examples of cherry picking. If you want to figure out your real world mpg, leave one of the settings on for the life of the car, then show us what your "average" is after 14,000 miles or 20,000 miles or whatever. It makes no sense showing off these high mpg ratings from the top of the pass to the seashore and then leave off the trips to the grocery store and back.
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Mines at 19.5 for the life of the car which is 16,500 miles.

My best 50 was 32.2 MPG (or something like that) in Eco going 60 MPH on a road in Michgan's Upper Peninsula (US-2) from St. Ignace toward Wisconsin.

I drive about 50% highway. But who cares that still beat the EPA mileage


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