Car dealers in California can't sell cars out of state? What?
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There were 4 Noble dealers in Europe where you coukd buy them complete and get them serviced etc. However, they don't have air bags, so to get around regulations they were shipped as a complete car and then combined with the drive train over here. So, technically it is a kit car. Even though all the engineering went into this car, it is not like it is built on a Nissan 350z or something. No "donor car."
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That dealer is full of bs. I recently bought a new 17 Z51 and had it shipped to me in Arizona. Car was heavily discounted otherwise I'd never buy a car there. The kicker is that in Cali if you want to drive it off the lot to another state then you will have to pay cali sales tax and registration fees (or have a one way trip permit). I just had the car shipped to me in Lake Havasu and paid the tax and reg to my home state of Az.
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Your actually wrong about this. While they do have a 50 state emissions for all cars, they also have a California Emissions only and you can order from the factory with this option. I know because I did exactly that. The registration process for the car is much easier and simpler if you register a car in California with California Emissions!
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Your actually wrong about this. While they do have a 50 state emissions for all cars, they also have a California Emissions only and you can order from the factory with this option. I know because I did exactly that. The registration process for the car is much easier and simpler if you register a car in California with California Emissions!
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#47
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there is no difference in the car itself, but the YF5 (no-cost option) adds a sticker under the hood stating it meets CA emissions. I've bought two Corvettes out of state and when registering in CA they look for that sticker. Also, if you paid sales tax in another state and it was less than the CA sales tax, you have to pay the difference to CA.
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Just spoke to John L. Sullivan Chevrolet in Rolesville, California. I was told that they can only sell a vehicle to a buyer that walks in their door. It is against the law for them to sell a car to someone out of state and ship the vehicle to them. This sounds like utter BS and madness if true. Can anyone confirm this is the law?
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there is no difference in the car itself, but the YF5 (no-cost option) adds a sticker under the hood stating it meets CA emissions. I've bought two Corvettes out of state and when registering in CA they look for that sticker. Also, if you paid sales tax in another state and it was less than the CA sales tax, you have to pay the difference to CA.
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I'm pretty sure if you buy a car here in California and drive it off the lot, you must pay nonrefundable California Sales Tax on the entire purchase price (minimum 7.25% and much higher in some cities and counties, no discount for trade in value). You can only avoid the sales tax if you have a commercial third party ship the car from the dealer out of California.
I purchased my GS from a Chevy dealer in IN and to avoid a 7% IN sales tax had to sign a form that car was being titled out of state and it had to be transported by a third party shipper from IN to VA. Of course, I paid sales tax and registration fees when I registered the C7 in Va.
Typically, you pay sales tax and registration fees in the state car is going to be titled and registered, not where it's purchased. You should never have to pay sales taxes/registration fees in both states.
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Just purchased a new 2017 Stingray from Criswell. Before I could get it titled / registered in my home county in California I was required by DMV to pass a Smog Check Vehicle Inspection. This is not required of new cars sold in California. Only new cars sold and brought in from out of state. When I re-register my car in five years I will be required to pass another smog check.
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Did you pay sales tax in MD or CA?
#53
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I live in Las Vegas and have purchased several cars from dealers in California.
The dealer who said it is illegal is absolutely lying or grossly misinformed.
So, the way it works is if an out-of-state person purchases a vehicle in CA — there are two choices:
1) Buyer drives (or otherwise removes) the vehicle from the dealer lot himself. In this case, the Buyer *must* pay the full CA sales taxes to the selling Dealer. In some states (like my state of NV), he can show his CA bill of sale to his own state’s DMV, and get credit for sales taxes paid in CA to apply to his own state’s sales tax bill for the car. Buyer is still responsible for any discrepancies in the amount paid to CA and the amount due from his own state. There is no refund if the CA tax paid is greater than those charged by the buyer’s own state.
2) Buyer hires a commercial shipper to pick up the car from the Dealer's lot, and deliver it to an out-of-CA address (note: delivery address doesn’t HAVE to be in the buyer’s state, as long as it’s out of CA). The CA Dealer uses the commercial shipper-provided “Bill Of Lading” (B/L) to prove to the CA taxing authority that the car was indeed delivered "out of state", and thus no CA taxes were collected by the selling Dealer. That is why you can’t just show up with your own trailer and pick up the car and avoid the tax — a commercial entity is required for an acceptable B/L.
The dealer who said it is illegal is absolutely lying or grossly misinformed.
So, the way it works is if an out-of-state person purchases a vehicle in CA — there are two choices:
1) Buyer drives (or otherwise removes) the vehicle from the dealer lot himself. In this case, the Buyer *must* pay the full CA sales taxes to the selling Dealer. In some states (like my state of NV), he can show his CA bill of sale to his own state’s DMV, and get credit for sales taxes paid in CA to apply to his own state’s sales tax bill for the car. Buyer is still responsible for any discrepancies in the amount paid to CA and the amount due from his own state. There is no refund if the CA tax paid is greater than those charged by the buyer’s own state.
2) Buyer hires a commercial shipper to pick up the car from the Dealer's lot, and deliver it to an out-of-CA address (note: delivery address doesn’t HAVE to be in the buyer’s state, as long as it’s out of CA). The CA Dealer uses the commercial shipper-provided “Bill Of Lading” (B/L) to prove to the CA taxing authority that the car was indeed delivered "out of state", and thus no CA taxes were collected by the selling Dealer. That is why you can’t just show up with your own trailer and pick up the car and avoid the tax — a commercial entity is required for an acceptable B/L.
Last edited by Kent1999; 06-17-2018 at 12:08 PM.
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I'm pretty sure if you buy a car here in California and drive it off the lot, you must pay nonrefundable California Sales Tax on the entire purchase price (minimum 7.25% and much higher in some cities and counties, no discount for trade in value). You can only avoid the sales tax if you have a commercial third party ship the car from the dealer out of California.
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I bought a motorhome in CA and the dealer drove us to Reno where we completed the sale. It saved me $15,000. in taxes and license fee. I then registered in Oregon where I paid $240. for a two year license...