Quick question about the A8
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Quick question about the A8
17 GS A8
I have had harsh shifts ever since I bought the car new. I tend to use paddles/M mode when driving. I typically start in 2 to avoid the 1-2 shift when stopped and have hard shifts about 75% of the time. There are moments that it does not buck the car forward but it typically does and this is starting to concern me.
Also, it never downshifts by itself into 2 from 3, it always skips 2 on the downshift and goes into 1 with a kick/buck. I can't imagine this is how all A8s are. Please let me know if your A8 experience is similar or not.
Thanks Jay
I have had harsh shifts ever since I bought the car new. I tend to use paddles/M mode when driving. I typically start in 2 to avoid the 1-2 shift when stopped and have hard shifts about 75% of the time. There are moments that it does not buck the car forward but it typically does and this is starting to concern me.
Also, it never downshifts by itself into 2 from 3, it always skips 2 on the downshift and goes into 1 with a kick/buck. I can't imagine this is how all A8s are. Please let me know if your A8 experience is similar or not.
Thanks Jay
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I can't really comment on paddle shifting since I have owned the car for only a couple of months; however I can speak about the A8 from an automatic perspective, and apparently it SUCKS! Bought my 2015 C7 pre-owned with 6500 miles on it. It drove nicely until I turned 7K miles, and then it began to surge, shudder, and felt like I was driving over rumble strips. The RPM's would fluctuate as well. It's at the dealership right now, and the tech is saying it's the torque converter. Since joining this forum a few days ago, I've read numerous comments about the problems with the A8 transmission, but I'm yet to see where GM is doing a damn thing about it. Why hasn't there been a recall? Why is it that GM is selling these cars with full knowledge that the transmission is flawed? I've always been a FORD customer, and was strongly leaning towards a Shelby Mustang, but decided to give Corvette a try. Wow, has this turned out to be a mistake. Other than my obvious stupidity, it's beyond me why someone would buy a $60K + automobile from GM when they clearly have not improved their quality control process since the 1980's...................Sorry for the rant, but it happens when you're PO'd as I am.
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At full throttle it's a different story though, if you're in third or fourth it will downshift to 2nd, it won't just skip down to 1st.
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Jay, the rough/hard first shift of the day is just the nature of the beast in my opinion, but it should stop after it warms up. My '16 w/9K miles has done it day one, but it's only the first shift when cold. You may want to have the dealer check yours. And it is designed to go from 3rd to 1st when coming to a stop. My other automatic (non GM) cars do the same thing.
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17 GS A8
I have had harsh shifts ever since I bought the car new. I tend to use paddles/M mode when driving. I typically start in 2 to avoid the 1-2 shift when stopped and have hard shifts about 75% of the time. There are moments that it does not buck the car forward but it typically does and this is starting to concern me.
Also, it never downshifts by itself into 2 from 3, it always skips 2 on the downshift and goes into 1 with a kick/buck. I can't imagine this is how all A8s are. Please let me know if your A8 experience is similar or not.
Thanks Jay
I have had harsh shifts ever since I bought the car new. I tend to use paddles/M mode when driving. I typically start in 2 to avoid the 1-2 shift when stopped and have hard shifts about 75% of the time. There are moments that it does not buck the car forward but it typically does and this is starting to concern me.
Also, it never downshifts by itself into 2 from 3, it always skips 2 on the downshift and goes into 1 with a kick/buck. I can't imagine this is how all A8s are. Please let me know if your A8 experience is similar or not.
Thanks Jay
As others have mentioned, it's normal to down shift from 3rd to 1st, skipping 2nd.
I can't really comment on paddle shifting since I have owned the car for only a couple of months; however I can speak about the A8 from an automatic perspective, and apparently it SUCKS! Bought my 2015 C7 pre-owned with 6500 miles on it. It drove nicely until I turned 7K miles, and then it began to surge, shudder, and felt like I was driving over rumble strips. The RPM's would fluctuate as well. It's at the dealership right now, and the tech is saying it's the torque converter. Since joining this forum a few days ago, I've read numerous comments about the problems with the A8 transmission, but I'm yet to see where GM is doing a damn thing about it. Why hasn't there been a recall? Why is it that GM is selling these cars with full knowledge that the transmission is flawed? I've always been a FORD customer, and was strongly leaning towards a Shelby Mustang, but decided to give Corvette a try. Wow, has this turned out to be a mistake. Other than my obvious stupidity, it's beyond me why someone would buy a $60K + automobile from GM when they clearly have not improved their quality control process since the 1980's...................Sorry for the rant, but it happens when you're PO'd as I am.
GM did make some changes in A8 for C7s manufactured after November 2016 I believe it was that reduced issues.
Hope the dealer gets your A8 issues resolved.
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For those of you that have the harsh 1-2 shift when cold, did it do it since day one or did it develop later? I've got just under 5000 miles on my 2018 and I have never experienced a hard 1-2 shift at all, so I'm hoping I never do.
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GM did make some changes in A8 for C7s manufactured after November 2016 I believe it was that reduced issues.
personal experience, 1800 miles since March 2018 on a 2017 Stingray A8 purchased new. First 600 miles I used paddles to keep engine out of V4; then plugged in Range AFM. Transmission is shifting flawlessly to date, fingers crossed, Range AFM disabler forever on.
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My '15 A8 shifted fine & smooth. Only issued I have now is the violent jerking or buckling when shift in D or M. It happens at first start in the morning or few hrs later. It's at the dealer now for the Zaktak coating. They will check on the jerking so we'll see.
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I can't really comment on paddle shifting since I have owned the car for only a couple of months; however I can speak about the A8 from an automatic perspective, and apparently it SUCKS! Bought my 2015 C7 pre-owned with 6500 miles on it. It drove nicely until I turned 7K miles, and then it began to surge, shudder, and felt like I was driving over rumble strips. The RPM's would fluctuate as well. It's at the dealership right now, and the tech is saying it's the torque converter. Since joining this forum a few days ago, I've read numerous comments about the problems with the A8 transmission, but I'm yet to see where GM is doing a damn thing about it. Why hasn't there been a recall? Why is it that GM is selling these cars with full knowledge that the transmission is flawed? I've always been a FORD customer, and was strongly leaning towards a Shelby Mustang, but decided to give Corvette a try. Wow, has this turned out to be a mistake. Other than my obvious stupidity, it's beyond me why someone would buy a $60K + automobile from GM when they clearly have not improved their quality control process since the 1980's...................Sorry for the rant, but it happens when you're PO'd as I am.
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Take it in for service. That sounds off. I had an A8 on my 16 and it was very intuitive. I’d say butter smooth while cruising and aggressive if I was being aggressive. Get it checked
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Jay, the rough/hard first shift of the day is just the nature of the beast in my opinion, but it should stop after it warms up. My '16 w/9K miles has done it day one, but it's only the first shift when cold. You may want to have the dealer check yours. And it is designed to go from 3rd to 1st when coming to a stop. My other automatic (non GM) cars do the same thing.
My concern occurs when it's cold, warm, and hot. I am thinking it might require a visit to the dealer
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I have had harsh shifts ever since I bought the car new. I tend to use paddles/M mode when driving. I typically start in 2 to avoid the 1-2 shift when stopped and have hard shifts about 75% of the time. There are moments that it does not buck the car forward but it typically does and this is starting to concern me.
Also, it never downshifts by itself into 2 from 3, it always skips 2 on the downshift and goes into 1 with a kick/buck. I can't imagine this is how all A8s are. Please let me know if your A8 experience is similar or not.
Thanks Jay
I have had harsh shifts ever since I bought the car new. I tend to use paddles/M mode when driving. I typically start in 2 to avoid the 1-2 shift when stopped and have hard shifts about 75% of the time. There are moments that it does not buck the car forward but it typically does and this is starting to concern me.
Also, it never downshifts by itself into 2 from 3, it always skips 2 on the downshift and goes into 1 with a kick/buck. I can't imagine this is how all A8s are. Please let me know if your A8 experience is similar or not.
Thanks Jay
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I have read where guys at very first start shift to M and paddle from 1 to 2 and then proceed as normal and it shifts smoother. Something about a possible tranny component needing to be filled up initially with fluid due to internal leaking down or something to that nature. Sorry I can't remember exactly what it was but try the manual shift initially and see if that makes a difference, can't hurt. Cheers
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You're a lucky man Pat, and I hope it stays that way. Mine was from day one, but I will say the first shift in mine is not as bad since the learning curve has settled. If I move out into the roadway at slow pace it will change fairly smooth, but you can still tell it's there.
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You're a lucky man Pat, and I hope it stays that way. Mine was from day one, but I will say the first shift in mine is not as bad since the learning curve has settled. If I move out into the roadway at slow pace it will change fairly smooth, but you can still tell it's there.
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I learned from a post on the forum..... to eliminate the harsh 1-2 upshift when the car is cold..... just follow this procedure.
While still parked, before putting the car in D, move the shifter down to M, then back up to P, then down to D.
This works every time for me. Eliminates the 1-2 bump.
While still parked, before putting the car in D, move the shifter down to M, then back up to P, then down to D.
This works every time for me. Eliminates the 1-2 bump.
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My A8 has 7500 miles now. In the first 1000 miles I got a relatively noticeable shift from 1 to 2 when cold. Never when hot however. Now it is generally smooth. I do use Manual mode 80% of the time however. Sounds like you need to have the A8 Serviced or at least reflashed.
BTW, are you to young to remember the money and trouble we went through on our 700R4s and 4L60s (not Es) to put a shift kit in the valve body to give us those rock hard shifts? I certainly do. My Vettes have been manuals, but I have had A4 Camaros and all would immediately get a TCI shift kit installed.
BTW, are you to young to remember the money and trouble we went through on our 700R4s and 4L60s (not Es) to put a shift kit in the valve body to give us those rock hard shifts? I certainly do. My Vettes have been manuals, but I have had A4 Camaros and all would immediately get a TCI shift kit installed.
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I have an idea. Why doesn't GM purchase 500 thousand Range Devices and give one to every C7 owner with an A8. They would probably be able to get them for half price or even less if they bought that many. Then C7 owners would be able to use the Range device with the blessing of GM. That action would probably significantly reduce the number of torque converter failures. I'm quite sure a Range device even at full price is considerably cheaper than a torque converter replacement.
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Originally Posted by Patman
I always use a very gentle foot on the gas (with all of my cars) when first starting out cold, so that probably helps, but there really is no hint at all of anything weird with this car (in any respect, knock on wood it's been 100% perfect so far!)
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I have an idea. Why doesn't GM purchase 500 thousand Range Devices and give one to every C7 owner with an A8. They would probably be able to get them for half price or even less if they bought that many. Then C7 owners would be able to use the Range device with the blessing of GM. That action would probably significantly reduce the number of torque converter failures. I'm quite sure a Range device even at full price is considerably cheaper than a torque converter replacement.
I have had a Range since it was brand new. It has been in 4 cyl mode maybe 2-3 times. I even had Range Tech re- flash the AFM Module to the newest firmware, an I still have the hard shifts.
GM should consider dumping the whole idea of 8 cyl deactivation. Produce more 4 banger cars for those that want better MPG.