My key fob story and why I don't like key fobs
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Key fobs are like regular keys, put them in your pocket when you go for a drive...that's my story & I am sticking to it
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Just in case:
I bought a spare fob, programed and tested it, then wrapped in aluminum foil, disguised, and hid deeply in the car. Verified that the foil prevents it from "working". I bought a spare key, tested it, and hid somewhere on the outside of the car. Even our dealer tech hasn't found it, but I can access it without tools. With that combination; I could lose everything but unlock the trunk with the hidden key, pull the door tab, get the spare fob and unwarp, start car and drive home. Total time about 2 minutes....
I bought a spare fob, programed and tested it, then wrapped in aluminum foil, disguised, and hid deeply in the car. Verified that the foil prevents it from "working". I bought a spare key, tested it, and hid somewhere on the outside of the car. Even our dealer tech hasn't found it, but I can access it without tools. With that combination; I could lose everything but unlock the trunk with the hidden key, pull the door tab, get the spare fob and unwarp, start car and drive home. Total time about 2 minutes....
My feeling is that this is a valid plan and that keeping the second fob in the car (in aluminum foil) isn't necessary. If the battery goes out completely I should still be able to start the car by using the pocket on the steering column. OTOH, I read here recently where an owner started his car, exited to retrieve something in his house, laid the fob down somewhere outside the car, then drove off. When he tried to start the car at his destination it was a no go. A spare fob inside the car would solve that problem, but so would the OnStar (or MyChevrolet) app for the cell phone. I have the app but haven't had to use it yet, except for some testing. Of course if you do what he did and left your cell phone at home.... Well, nothing's idiot-proof.
Same here, except at the gym it stays in the bag. When at home it and other keys go on a key hanger behind the kitchen door, and I don't violate that ritual.
Last edited by iclick; 06-27-2018 at 03:37 PM.
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Good thought.
Perhaps he's holding down the button far too long (Service mode requires a 10 second push) at shut down, instead of just a normal press and release?
Or perhaps the start button is 'sticking' and so it remains in the depressed position after he releases pressure on it, again triggering Service mode?
Perhaps he's holding down the button far too long (Service mode requires a 10 second push) at shut down, instead of just a normal press and release?
Or perhaps the start button is 'sticking' and so it remains in the depressed position after he releases pressure on it, again triggering Service mode?
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NO manufacturer in their right mind would kill the engine just because the fob is no longer detected. Imagine you are driving down the highway and your fob battery dies, or some cell phone or other electronic device in the car interferes with the fob signal --- you want the car to kill the engine while your're driving at 75mph, negotiating a curve, or on some two lane road attempting to complete a pass before an oncoming car closes in?
Question: Why would you exit your car, and leave it in a running state in any area where theft is even a slight risk?
Easy solution -- never leave your car running when you get out and leave, whether your car is keyed *or* keyless start. If someone steals your running C7, report the car stolen and OnStar can shut it down remotely (fob or no fob), long before it runs out of gas.
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I have some vehicles with fobs and some with keys. Three of my vehicles are Toyotas and all have exactly the same key fob. Talk about a royal pain my my ***? I had to put tape on the backs and label them. The Corvette is easy as it’s different. It will often annoy my wife but I always insist on having the fob in MY pocket as the things will sink deeply into a big purse. My truck has a key. I have to unlock it with a key. Was way to simple a system apparently.
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I have some vehicles with fobs and some with keys. Three of my vehicles are Toyotas and all have exactly the same key fob. Talk about a royal pain my my ***? I had to put tape on the backs and label them. The Corvette is easy as it’s different. It will often annoy my wife but I always insist on having the fob in MY pocket as the things will sink deeply into a big purse. My truck has a key. I have to unlock it with a key. Was way to simple a system apparently.
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Speaking for myself only ( old guy, on my 8th vett) I liked the keys in the C3 C4 and C5-s. Still getting used to the keyless ^ but think the electronics is way overdone. (grain of salt you young uns.. I started driving with 3 on the tree and key plus starter button on dash ( no not floor, not quite that old ... check out TCM film noir flicks for that era)
Anyway... electronic door handle....??? really??? First thing I replaced on the C6 since the contacs were sketchy (yes I know about the contact cleaning DIY) but...on the up side
Replaced a modded C5 ... headers, pipe, corsa, sways, shocks, lowered, remapped... with the the stock 09 CS and yes stock 6 is faster handles good etc. So I gotta learn to live with the elecs....
Now......HEY YOU KIDS>>>>GET OFF MY LAWN !!!!!
R
Anyway... electronic door handle....??? really??? First thing I replaced on the C6 since the contacs were sketchy (yes I know about the contact cleaning DIY) but...on the up side
Replaced a modded C5 ... headers, pipe, corsa, sways, shocks, lowered, remapped... with the the stock 09 CS and yes stock 6 is faster handles good etc. So I gotta learn to live with the elecs....
Now......HEY YOU KIDS>>>>GET OFF MY LAWN !!!!!
R
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Overall, I like the FOB/no key deal. I hate having keys in my pocket. I will agree that it takes some attention when I switch around from one vehicle to another. One thing I like with my Harley FOB is that if you ride off with it sitting on the bench next to your bike you can punch in a code and operate just like you have the FOB.
With the Vette, could you just call on star and have them unlock and remote start so you can get back to where the FOB is? I guess if you do the phone app you could do it from your phone app?
I like that the FOB for the GM's fit in the small change pocket on my Levi pants.
All that aside, I understand the Op issue. The older I get the more I tend to do this silly stuff myself.
VH
With the Vette, could you just call on star and have them unlock and remote start so you can get back to where the FOB is? I guess if you do the phone app you could do it from your phone app?
I like that the FOB for the GM's fit in the small change pocket on my Levi pants.
All that aside, I understand the Op issue. The older I get the more I tend to do this silly stuff myself.
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Seems to me the problem is less with the fob and more with the user.......
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So don't be surprised if very soon new cars will have a very annoying alarm/chime and eventually push button cars will shut themselves down if they detect the fob isn't present (which by the way, my C7 will give the warning no fob present when the darn thing is in my front left pants pocket and I'm sitting in the driver's seat). I will personally hate when those changes come, and personally love my C7 and my Nissan Rogue with push button starting.
I like not having to take the fob out of your pocket.
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