Stolen C7 Z06
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In the early 1980s a friend bought a new 1/2 ton regular cab short bed Chevy pickup with a 6.2L diesel and his younger brother borrowed it and ran it into a river with the engine running while testing out its 4X4 capabilities. An independent shop replaced the engine (water doesn't compress very well and a connecting rod gave up) and did some other work and 10 days later it was stolen out of his driveway late at night. Shortly after midnight the police responded to an alarm at the shop that had done the work and found a new employee who set off the alarm while going in and out of the building. He was in the building late at night because he was parting out a 6.2L Chevy diesel pickup and the officer who responded to the alarm was the same one who took the stolen vehicle report a few hours earlier. Good for him and the pickup owner; not so good for the scum who made a key while it was being repaired and later stole it.
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OnStar won't send the monthly health reports unless the vehicle is started and running on or after the normal date the info is uploaded and the report is emailed.
It needs a cellular connection to communicate and a RF clear view to the sky for the GPS to work so a shipping container or other shielded enclosure will prevent it from responding..
It needs a cellular connection to communicate and a RF clear view to the sky for the GPS to work so a shipping container or other shielded enclosure will prevent it from responding..
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Patience is a virtue. Insurance will take care of it. Pain in the patoot for sure. I'd do a little amateur sleuthing just for fun. Check eBay Motors and craigslist for part listing. The car will get chopped and shopped, but you just might find your wheels for sale on eBay. Fun if you did.
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http://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/poli...udi-dealership
This happened down the road from me lol. 12 cars stolen from audi dealership! All customers cars being serviced
This happened down the road from me lol. 12 cars stolen from audi dealership! All customers cars being serviced
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Well, I conclude that they use a Tech 2 or the new equivilent to make the FOB but anyone can do a new FOB add to a car in 30 minutes without anything but supply a NEW FOB. You put the key in the rear trunk slot, turn it quickly 5 times and get the car into programming mode, insert the new FOB into the steering column slot and viola! You have FOB #3 programmed to the car. #3 will do everything that FOBs 1 & 2 will do except retain the memory functions for the seat and mirrors and stuff. If you want to see how to do it in your driveway or your garage, just use the Owner's manual or this: http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c7-g...s-and-rke.html
I know how to do it so I don't need to refer to the owner's manual or that IF/Then table I made to do the FOB encoding. All you need is 30 minutes of "alone" time, the key to use in the trunk slot, access to the inside of the car, and you can add a new FOB. Annnnnnnnnd where do all of those parameters come together? The dealer and a person with access to the car.
Elmer
I know how to do it so I don't need to refer to the owner's manual or that IF/Then table I made to do the FOB encoding. All you need is 30 minutes of "alone" time, the key to use in the trunk slot, access to the inside of the car, and you can add a new FOB. Annnnnnnnnd where do all of those parameters come together? The dealer and a person with access to the car.
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#47
It may not stop all attempts (especially if the car is in the shop for more than a day), but if they order a key via the VIN; that is highly monitored, and GM makes them justify every one.
#48
This has been going on for decades. Before there were fobs, they would copy your key and find out where you live using the documents in your glovebox. You can't completely guard against this happening. But what you can do is lock your glovebox, which likely has your insurance and registration, including address. That way, even if they have the key, they will have more difficulty determining where the car lives.
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Can the glove box in a C7 be locked?
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OnStar has its own backup battery (also needed so that it is more likely to work after a severe crash that takes out the car's primary electrical system) but a thief can remove that backup or the OnStar communications module before you discovered that the car was stolen. A knowledgeable thief who has ready access to your car can pretty easily disable any standard or added system just as any normal home security system is a deterrent to the amateur/average and not dedicated thief.
I think it is highly likely that another fob was paired with your car and then the security system was quickly disabled after the car was stolen or it is currently sitting in a nice container ready for export with this metal container providing a sufficient Faraday shield to prevent any of its comms systems from working.
I suspect that if you had looked at the pairing screen after repair it would have asked you to begin pairing remote 4 indicating that three instead of the standard 2 were already paired although a more astute thief could have canceled the existing fob not left with the vehicle so that it would still look as only 2 were paired (one of those would have been the newly paired and your other existing fob wouldn't have worked).
I did some consulting work with the International group (which was the old auto theft bureau) at the National Insurance Crime Bureau in the early 1990s and I remember reading about quite a few post-repair thefts of this sort although as I recall most of these were through custom and independent shops rather than dealerships. At the same time one of the staff workers had her brand new Suburban stolen out of the NICB parking lot the day she bought it. It was scheduled to have Lo Jack installed the next day
I think it is highly likely that another fob was paired with your car and then the security system was quickly disabled after the car was stolen or it is currently sitting in a nice container ready for export with this metal container providing a sufficient Faraday shield to prevent any of its comms systems from working.
I suspect that if you had looked at the pairing screen after repair it would have asked you to begin pairing remote 4 indicating that three instead of the standard 2 were already paired although a more astute thief could have canceled the existing fob not left with the vehicle so that it would still look as only 2 were paired (one of those would have been the newly paired and your other existing fob wouldn't have worked).
I did some consulting work with the International group (which was the old auto theft bureau) at the National Insurance Crime Bureau in the early 1990s and I remember reading about quite a few post-repair thefts of this sort although as I recall most of these were through custom and independent shops rather than dealerships. At the same time one of the staff workers had her brand new Suburban stolen out of the NICB parking lot the day she bought it. It was scheduled to have Lo Jack installed the next day
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Anytime, anyway, if a thief wants your car he'll get it. One way or the other. All we can do is make it more difficult.
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I'm surprised the car didn't overheat & go into limp mode.... nah, just kidding...I hope that you get your car back in one piece & unharmed
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Which I do every time I go in for any service. It also removes my house Key which I keep on the FOB ring. Why invite someone to your house with their very own copy of your house key.
Elmer
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There are such things as a "Master Fob" I got one with one of my Corvettes by accident from the plant. I went to my dealer one day and walked by a row of Corvettes and opened and locked every single car as I walked by.
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How did you know you unlocked them all?
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To the op sorry for your loss, hopefully your insurance company gives you good value. Maybe just a good excuse to upgrade to a zr1.
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My condolences to the OP.
I never leave my car in the driveway at night or parked anywhere but my garage for any great length of time.
I never leave my car in the driveway at night or parked anywhere but my garage for any great length of time.