ADVICE: Please = have to decide today '17 GS 2LT Z07 or '19 GS 1LT New-Same price
07-06-2018, 10:23 PM
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Great choice! Congratulations!
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07-06-2018, 11:53 PM
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You made the right choice! 
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C5smithjack (07-07-2018)
07-07-2018, 12:14 AM
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No its not a 3LT but its a $90,600.00 Grand Sport which certainly is considered a loaded up car.
These cars come with a lot more goodies other than just the LT Packages.
Here is the copy paste from the build info.
Also, I made my decision and really appreciate all the help.
I am buying the Used Car. It has 3500 miles on it and it is 17 months old but being a CPO it gets 12/12 bumper to bumper adding on so it basically has the same a new car warranty but the power train goes to 6 years / 100,000 miles which helps. I want a warranty on my car.
Here is what it is:
2017 CORVETTE GRAND SPORT RWD Coupe 2LT $69,905.00
Sport 2LT includes everything found in the 1LT plus:
$7,995
Includes:
$795
Showcase your Corvette's racing heritage. This package includes:
$995
$595
$3,995
Includes visible Carbon Fiber splitter and rockers, as well as a more aggressive rear spoiler.
COMPETITION SPORT BUCKET SEATS
$2,495
PERFORMANCE DATA RECORDER AND NAVIGATION1
$1,795
$995
Real carbon-fiber instrument panel trim imparts a prestigious look to the Corvette® interior.
3-SPOKE, SUEDED MICROFIBER-WRAPPED, FLAT-BOTTOM STEERING WHEEL
BLACK-PAINTED GRAND SPORT WHEELS
$595
(194) Jet Black, Leather seating surfaces with sueded microber inserts
(GTR) Admiral Blue Metallic
7-SPEED MANUAL TRANSMISSION
Total Vehicle and Options $89,605
Destination Freight Charge $995
Total Vehicle Price $90,600
These cars come with a lot more goodies other than just the LT Packages.
Here is the copy paste from the build info.
Also, I made my decision and really appreciate all the help.
I am buying the Used Car. It has 3500 miles on it and it is 17 months old but being a CPO it gets 12/12 bumper to bumper adding on so it basically has the same a new car warranty but the power train goes to 6 years / 100,000 miles which helps. I want a warranty on my car.
Here is what it is:
2017 CORVETTE GRAND SPORT RWD Coupe 2LT $69,905.00
Sport 2LT includes everything found in the 1LT plus:
- Console and door panels in interior color
- Lumbar/wing adjust
- Heated/vented seats
- Seat emblems
- Curb View front camera
- 10-speaker Bose® premium audio system
- Universal Home Remote
- Auto-dimming mirrors
- Memory Package
- Color Head-Up Display
- SiriusXM Satellite Radio with one-year subscription1
- Enhanced Theft-Deterrent Package
- Luggage shade/cargo net
$7,995
Includes:
- Z07 suspension with Magnetic Selective Ride Control™
- 4-wheel antilock, 4-wheel disc, carbon-ceramic Brembo® brakes
- Dark Gray Metallic-painted calipers
- Michelin Pilot Super Sport Cup 2 summer-only, run-flat tires1
$795
Showcase your Corvette's racing heritage. This package includes:
- Choice of 6 fender hash mark colors
- Interior brushed aluminum hash marks
- Floor mats with Grand Sport logo
- Optional choice of 5 center stripe colors
$995
- Requires available Grand Sport Heritage Package
- Includes coordinated hood vent
$595
- "Corvette" visible on outside of calipers.
- Also included with the Black Suede Design Package
- Standard on Z06® models
$3,995
Includes visible Carbon Fiber splitter and rockers, as well as a more aggressive rear spoiler.
COMPETITION SPORT BUCKET SEATS
$2,495
- Provide performance fit and bolstering
- Are built on sturdy, yet lightweight magnesium seat frames
PERFORMANCE DATA RECORDER AND NAVIGATION1
$1,795
- Records video and real-time performance data to play back, share and analyze your driving experiences
- Windshield-mounted HD camera module captures video and audio of drives
- Video, audio and performance data can be replayed on the Corvette® color touch screen or saved on an SD memory card for playback on your computer or analysis with Cosworth toolbox
- Track Mode records video, audio and synchronized performance data, including speed, rpm, g force, track maps, lap times and start/finish line
- Sport Mode has simplified data, such as speed and g force, to your video
- Touring Mode captures video and audio of scenic drives
- Performance Mode records performance data: 0 to 60 mph, 1/4-mile speed and elapsed time, as well as 0-to-100-to-0 runs
- Valet mode provides peace of mind by recording video and data when your vehicle is not in your control
- Stingray® and Grand Sport 1LT and 2LT models, and Z06® 1LZ and 2LZ models require the available Chevrolet MyLink®1 audio system with Navigation
$995
Real carbon-fiber instrument panel trim imparts a prestigious look to the Corvette® interior.
3-SPOKE, SUEDED MICROFIBER-WRAPPED, FLAT-BOTTOM STEERING WHEEL
BLACK-PAINTED GRAND SPORT WHEELS
$595
(194) Jet Black, Leather seating surfaces with sueded microber inserts
(GTR) Admiral Blue Metallic
7-SPEED MANUAL TRANSMISSION
Total Vehicle and Options $89,605
Destination Freight Charge $995
Total Vehicle Price $90,600
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07-07-2018, 12:57 AM
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The 2017 GS package has thousands of dollars worth of options. As others have said..the cup tires wear down fast because of the soft treads. A 1LT car is not very desirable at all when you consider that the car has very little options, and most likely not be considered highly as a trade later on. This is a no brainer..get the GS 2017 optioned car and ask them to replace the tires. If not, just get the non-cup tires that come on the normal GS. Those tires last longer. Again, for $1000 more your getting a ridiculous package with the 2017. I'd be surprised if it is still there. Good luck
The 2LT is a very popular package that costs quite a bit. I'd want it on a car if I were to buy one.
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07-07-2018, 01:08 AM
#65
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I think you made the proper choice for you. If the deal isn't totally done, you might try to see if you can get a discount on a set of the SS tires from the dealer or possibly the Performance Update for the ZO7 suspension.
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07-07-2018, 01:50 AM
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I was going to get tires at tire rack and have a local dealer add them. Didn't think price would be much different (Cup 2's) are $1,780 shipped with $70 gift car mailed to me) but won't hurt to ask so good idea i will. He did give me a great, simple deal price and is an awesome guy and offered me the best trade offer of other dealers by far.
There are dealers that either don't care and low ball you which is fine its their choice and other guys that get it and understand the only way to make a deal with some one like me is to offer a fair trade. My 2014 C7 VERT Z51 MAG RIDE 2LT NAV 7MT CAR has 2,500 miles on it. Would you guys take $7,500 under KBB Trade, MMR AVG, Galves, etc. That makes no sense and I.m not bitching just don't understand. Especially when the guy has a brand new 2017 that has been sitting on the lot going on 2 years? I could see if my car had 25k miles on it but it has 2,433 miles on it and its a 2014 and it doesn't have a pin head nick anywhere?
My guy is the man. He will give me the same trade against this used car or any of his other used ones or his new ones but the only new ones he has are either non grands sports, Z06's or real expensive grand sports but either way the guy is awesome and offered a solid fair trade value. I am not bashing the dealers, they all need to make a living but no one is trading cars for that kind of money. Not even the rich guys that don't care. You guys are rich for a reason because you are smart. Carmax offered me $6,500 more which was good but then you lose the $2800 tax credit so now your $3800 back which is better but still not going to get me into a new one. You need to find a guy or gal that isn't on the other side of the country and will offer a fair trade and then has a car you want and it sounds simple but it is anything but - but glad I found the car and the folks to work with so happy happy.
07-07-2018, 07:31 AM
#67
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I didn't know about the Performance update on the Z07 suspension? What is that?
It is a computer download that corrects some of the harshness on pavement irregularities. The price is $350 for those of us that have 2015-17 cars. It apparently seems to improve some of the reaction to expansion joints and other pavement issues that are somewhat magnified by the tautness of the ZO7 although it also applies to other suspensions. If they can sell it to you for a discount or use it to cap the deal it would be to your advantage to get it done. My car is also a 17 ZO7 GS that I bought earlier this year and I am considering doing the upgrade. There are several threads about MRC Upgrade on this site. My car has had the Cup tires replaced by the SS series and for street driving they seem to be a better choice as far as durability. I generally see folks getting 15,000 miles or more from that version. I am waiting for the All Season Michelin to arrive this Fallto replace my SS series when needed.
It is a computer download that corrects some of the harshness on pavement irregularities. The price is $350 for those of us that have 2015-17 cars. It apparently seems to improve some of the reaction to expansion joints and other pavement issues that are somewhat magnified by the tautness of the ZO7 although it also applies to other suspensions. If they can sell it to you for a discount or use it to cap the deal it would be to your advantage to get it done. My car is also a 17 ZO7 GS that I bought earlier this year and I am considering doing the upgrade. There are several threads about MRC Upgrade on this site. My car has had the Cup tires replaced by the SS series and for street driving they seem to be a better choice as far as durability. I generally see folks getting 15,000 miles or more from that version. I am waiting for the All Season Michelin to arrive this Fallto replace my SS series when needed.
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07-07-2018, 10:06 AM
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Very nice, enjoy!
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07-07-2018, 10:45 AM
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Hey congrats on the Grandsport.
N' thanks for the post. For a while now, I've had a sense that prices were going to start converging (like this).
Forgive me for the question, but I am a bit confused about what you actually paid for the 2017 w/3500 miles.
Please PM me if you don't want to post the number.
Thanks and congrats one more time.
N' thanks for the post. For a while now, I've had a sense that prices were going to start converging (like this).
Forgive me for the question, but I am a bit confused about what you actually paid for the 2017 w/3500 miles.
Thanks and congrats one more time.
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07-07-2018, 01:14 PM
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Beautiful Corvette! You made the right call. It's CPO and they'll do you right. I highlighted the big one for this summer IMO. VENTED seats...YES PLEASE!
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07-07-2018, 04:27 PM
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Watch out for the dreaded paint chipping on the 17.
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07-07-2018, 05:09 PM
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Wise choice, I do not buy new, I always try to get a used with the most options and consideration of mileage, my 15 ZO7 M7 3LZ w/every option had 1,600 miles, I paid $35K under MSRP 9 months ago.
ENJOY YOUR BEAST!!
ENJOY YOUR BEAST!!
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07-07-2018, 11:07 PM
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07-08-2018, 12:24 PM
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Congrats, i love that combo (actually had the 5x7 card of that GS above my computer at work lol..) absolutely beautiful American color scheme and reminiscent of that gorgeous '96. It's that car that got me looking into upgrading to a C7 from my C6.. If i didn't get more than 20% off my new 2016 C7Z in October 2016, i would have bought the same car you did..
Like anything else, why would you settle for something new when it's not WHAT YOU wanted??? so you own the 19 for 3 years and never had that satisfaction you were seeking? no way. good for you. can't compare a base 1LT GS to a loaded Z07. first owner took the hit and you get the value award. I would be surprised if that 19 is worth more in 3yrs btw. enjoy it... life is too short.
and not having the HUD in a C7 is not having the full experience imo... no way.. in a C6? not so much (and I had it in my C6, but it felt like it was as outdated as an atari 2600)
Like anything else, why would you settle for something new when it's not WHAT YOU wanted??? so you own the 19 for 3 years and never had that satisfaction you were seeking? no way. good for you. can't compare a base 1LT GS to a loaded Z07. first owner took the hit and you get the value award. I would be surprised if that 19 is worth more in 3yrs btw. enjoy it... life is too short.
and not having the HUD in a C7 is not having the full experience imo... no way.. in a C6? not so much (and I had it in my C6, but it felt like it was as outdated as an atari 2600)
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07-08-2018, 01:00 PM
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