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Old 07-16-2018, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by kennyjames21
If you like the look or not is opinion, but saying the GS outside of looks is a z51 is simply factually incorrect. The GS comes standard with mag ride, has wider tires, bigger brakes, improved suspension, better spoiler, z06 grill, front splitter and side skirts.
I agree. To contribute an informed opinion here as to if the GS package is worth the $10,000 one needs to know exactly what the package includes, same when comparing the $5000 difference between the GS package and the Z51 package. Not sure many do.
Here's the components of each:

GS Performance Package features ($10,000): Specific front fender inserts; Z06 style grill; wider rear fenders; front splitter; rocker skirts, additional brake cooling vents and wickerbill rear spoiler; GS CUP-style wheels; Michelin super-sport summer only tires (P285/30ZR19” front, P33525ZR20” rear); 6-piston front and 4-pison front Bremo brakes; Slotted brake rotors; Magnetic Ride Control and Electronic Limited-slip differential; NPP exhaust, Dry-sump oil system; Rear differential cooler; transmission cooler.

Z51 Performance Package features ($5,000): Performance brakes; Black painted calibers; Slotted brake rotors; Dry sump oil system; Z51 performance package, specific shocks, springs and stabilizer bars; NPP exhaust; performance gear ratios, Electronic Limited-slip differential; Rear differential cooler; transmission cooler and Areo package.

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Old 07-16-2018, 05:51 PM
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I honestly wouldn't get a C7 without mag ride. If you're going to get Z51 and mag ride, it's damn near the same price.
Old 07-16-2018, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by mschuyler
And I'm saying the wide body "look" is not worth the money. Otherwise it's a Z51. Really. If you're impressed by 3.5" I suggest you may have other issues.
Quite right.

The OP's already disclosed his financials. It's not up to us whether or not he makes the right move financially.

Each of have posted/ing our opinions. Many of us believe that the $10,000.00 GS up charge is not worth it.

If it was worth it, I'd of bought one. It isn't.

There's only one reason that makes sense in buying one. You gain a slight edge in street racing or track racing the car. That's it. The rest is throw away trash talk.

I'm also noticing most of the members here telling you about how fast their GS is, has never raced anyone in their life. Telling you how fast their GS is using only their computer keyboard, is as close to racing as they're going to get. Lol!

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Old 07-16-2018, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mschuyler
And I'm saying the wide body "look" is not worth the money. Otherwise it's a Z51. Really. If you're impressed by 3.5" I suggest you may have other issues.
except it has mag ride, better aero (and options for more, plus CCB option), bigger iron brakes, 2pc rotors, more cooling, no ugly shredder/braces grille, and bigger wheels and tires.
and tires that are each 40-50mm wider is a really big deal.

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Old 07-16-2018, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by village idiot
except it has mag ride, better aero (and options for more, plus CCB option), bigger iron brakes, 2pc rotors, more cooling, no ugly shredder/braces grille, and bigger wheels and tires.
and tires that are each 40-50mm wider is a really big deal.
Excapt the GS has the same 460HP making everything else negligible on the street. The GS is a great track car. It's just not going to be a lot different on the street. Just like the ZR1 isn't going to be much different than the ZO6 on the street. Neither can be pushed anywhere near the limit except at the track. Sounds like OP will be quite happy with a Stingray.
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....yes
Old 07-16-2018, 09:23 PM
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After briefly looking at this thread I can’t see how it helped you much.

Buy what you want and can afford. Better yet be patient, save and get what you “really” want.
Old 07-16-2018, 11:23 PM
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Isn't to me. In fact, half the crappola that comes on the base cars I could, and would prefer to, do without. But, to each his or her own.
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Originally Posted by dnb007
I’m stuck between the stingray and grand sport 1lt.
Get the stingray and you won't have to change brake pads as soon as you get it!
I really want the grand sport but I cant find one for $52K max.
And you won't!
Somebody told me to wait til the winter but I’m not sure I can get one for that amount at all.
Forget it!
I seen a couple online for $56 but I have a budget and I don’t want to finance at all (trying to stay away from that!).
Smart, "if buying a new Vette could be considered smart at 24!"
Also I was thinking if I can’t find one in my budget I was just going to buy a stingray and add a wide body kit.. not sure if that’s possible
Thinking of adding a wide body kit is foolish! You'll pay more than a Grand Sport and have wide fenders, wide wheels, large tires and have none of the HD features!

The only benefit is you'll have softer suspension. However you'll pay more money in the long run and have poor resale! Dumb move IMO.

Forget the Z51 as now you'll pay $3000 more for a GS once you add MRC! It was a good choice when the GS was not available.

I bought my Grand Sport for perforce, having had a 2014 Z51. I did not buy it for looks and can't see how anyone could say the front spats look great! Look at the Kerbeck inventory, >200 cars in stock. Many base coupes some 2019 for $51,500. Also many Grand Sports but much more money. No Z51 since today not a logical financial choice or for resale.

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Old 07-17-2018, 09:11 AM
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I love Z51 owners who say a GS is just a Z51 with a wide body lol please get informed.
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Old 07-17-2018, 09:26 AM
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Love mine. Just gave it a bath last night and took it for a spin to blow out any excess water. What an awesome car. Get one.

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Old 07-17-2018, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Corgidog1
The base non z51 is way more than enough for street driving-if I was 24 on a budget i’d be shooting for that.
^^ This is by far the best advice of this entire thread. I highly suspect you aren't tracking due to your budget alone, so who cares about the GS performance bits. I can still pull 1G sustained in my base coupe with the beefier sway bars ($300 add on). It's more than capable for street driving.

Step 1) Get a coupe w/o Z51
Step 2) Have money left over
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Old 07-17-2018, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Kevin A Jones
I agree. To contribute an informed opinion here as to if the GS package is worth the $10,000 one needs to know exactly what the package includes, same when comparing the $5000 difference between the GS package and the Z51 package. Not sure many do.
Here's the components of each:

GS Performance Package features ($10,000): Specific front fender inserts; Z06 style grill; wider rear fenders; front splitter; rocker skirts, additional brake cooling vents and wickerbill rear spoiler; GS CUP-style wheels; Michelin super-sport summer only tires (P285/30ZR19” front, P33525ZR20” rear); 6-piston front and 4-pison front Bremo brakes; Slotted brake rotors; Magnetic Ride Control and Electronic Limited-slip differential; NPP exhaust, Dry-sump oil system; Rear differential cooler; transmission cooler.

Z51 Performance Package features ($5,000): Performance brakes; Black painted calibers; Slotted brake rotors; Dry sump oil system; Z51 performance package, specific shocks, springs and stabilizer bars; NPP exhaust; performance gear ratios, Electronic Limited-slip differential; Rear differential cooler; transmission cooler and Areo package.
Heh, yeah I even forgot some of the added benefits like improved cooling. Like I've been saying, if you want to spend the least amount of money, get a base stingray and you're all set, its a great car. But if you're thinking z51, especially if you're getting mag ride, unless you don't like the wide body look, you'd be nuts not to spend an extra $3k and get the GS.
Old 07-17-2018, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by TEXHAWK0
For me, the difference new was about $30k, so it definitely was not worth it. When I ordered my 2014, I opted not to pay the extra $25k for the z51, and I am still satisfied with what I have. The base price of my Stingray was only $51k.
I ordered a 2014 Z51 and it was not $25,000.00 more than the basic Stingray.
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Originally Posted by dnb007
I’m looking to buy my first corvette at 24.. I’m stuck between the stingray and grand sport 1lt. I really want the grand sport but I cant find one for $52K max. Somebody told me to wait til the winter but I’m not sure I can get one for that amount at all. I seen a couple online for $56 but I have a budget and I don’t want to finance at all (trying to stay away from that!).

Also I was thinking if I can’t find one in my budget I was just going to buy a stingray and add a wide body kit.. not sure if that’s possible
Smart move paying cash. A youngster with a brain. LOL. Save a few more thousand and get what you want. You're young. I didn't get mine the way I wanted it until I was 57 and I could pay cash and all my family responsibilities have been fulfilled
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Old 07-17-2018, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by dnb007
I’m looking to buy my first corvette at 24.. I’m stuck between the stingray and grand sport 1lt. I really want the grand sport but I cant find one for $52K max. Somebody told me to wait til the winter but I’m not sure I can get one for that amount at all. I seen a couple online for $56 but I have a budget and I don’t want to finance at all (trying to stay away from that!).

Also I was thinking if I can’t find one in my budget I was just going to buy a stingray and add a wide body kit.. not sure if that’s possible
Getting back to the original post..

It sounds like you really like the look of the widebody. If this is true, you may end up regretting not getting a GS and you don't want to regret such an expensive purchase.

Forget about the idea of making a stingray a wide body, you will end up spending almost as much or more than it would cost to simply buy a GS, and you won't have any of the added improvements a GS offers.

You're not going to get a new GS for $50k, so unless you can find more money, you may have to settle for a stingray. But as others have mentioned, you will probably not notice any difference in performance, and they certainly don't look vastly different from a GS, they are still AWESOME cars. And dude, you're 24 and looking to buy a $50k car, if this is a big problem for you, you're in really good shape, lol.
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Originally Posted by nikeair042
I love Z51 owners who say a GS is just a Z51 with a wide body lol please get informed.
I bought an early 2014 Z51 since it was the HD option available for 2 years. But was somewhat disappointed that it had the same width tires as my C6 Z51 with more power and even more importantly more low end torque with the LT1 variable cam timing! I was traction limited.

When the Z06 came out thought that tire width is what is needed but I prefer a NA engine and don't need the power (have a 502/502 BB in my 3000 lb street rod if I want fast 0 to 60 time! )

When the Grand Sport came out, thought that was the sweat spot! Was hoping they would get rid of the Spats but I can live with what looks a bit like my old 'CJ5 Jeep! Sold the 2014 and bought the Grand Sport- love it.

When Tadge posted an answer to the question "Why Spats," (i.e.aero reasons) made me feel better as "Form Follows Function!" But not great!

PS: Oh yes there are those larger 6 pistons per side front brakes:

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Old 07-17-2018, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by nikeair042
I love Z51 owners who say a GS is just a Z51 with a wide body lol please get informed.
Yes it's more like a Z06 without the muscle 💪🏻
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Originally Posted by mschuyler
The GS is 3.5 inches wider. Do the math to see how many thousands of dollars per inch that really is. For some people, that 3.5" is worth it. For others, not so much.
Originally Posted by Kevin A Jones
The above may be the most ridiculous post I've read on is this forum, and that's saying a lot.
Having said that, the wide-body "look" is most likely the reason most purchase the GS, even though it's only one of the 18 features included in the GS package.
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Originally Posted by mschuyler
And I'm saying the wide body "look" is not worth the money. Otherwise it's a Z51. Really. If you're impressed by 3.5" I suggest you may have other issues.
Obviously Uninformed as to the features of the GS or the Z51 packages yet very opinionated. I do like the look of the wide-body, however that's just personal preference, both wide and narrow body are beautiful designs.
If I'm impressed by anything it's the value of the GS package features. All one has to do is add the individual value of the 18 GS features and it becomes obvious it's quite a deal for $10,000. Heck, just adding the MRC
and NPP exhaust and you are at $6200 of the $10,000.
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I prefer the GS, but when it comes down to it, chicks don't know the difference between a stingray and a ZR-1 and isn't that what it's really all about?


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