GS vs GT350 Shelby
08-16-2018, 01:17 AM
#141
Le Mans Master
08-16-2018, 02:22 AM
#142
08-16-2018, 10:03 AM
#143
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Have recently owned both with manuals - sold them and considering getting one of them again-- real sellers remorse. Am a Porsche 911 guy also.
Both markets- vet/mustang-- in disarray- too many cars on ground and receding demand.
I know this a Vette forum but curious as to thoughts about either car. For me both represent the muscle car era.
Both markets- vet/mustang-- in disarray- too many cars on ground and receding demand.
I know this a Vette forum but curious as to thoughts about either car. For me both represent the muscle car era.
I too have owned both, and now in a GS vette. The Mustang has a great motor once it is above 3500 ish, then it pulled like fright train. I got out of mine during the infancy issues (catching on fire do to defective cooler oil line, I witnessed one at Charlotte and made my decision to get out of it while market was still up ) and got back into the Z51 (I had a 2011 GS prior to the GT350) Vette and now a 2017 left over GS. The GT350 likely is a GREAT track car, I never tracked mine but did autocross it most of a season, it too had GREAT seats and brakes. Cons, as wide as a Vette, a foot longer and roughly 400 pounds heavier.
I just like the Vette better, loads of bottom end, handles very neutrally balanced once some aggressive alignment had been performed, however I wish it came from the factory with 50-75 more HP. It is markedly better than prior years, nice interior which it needed, but it is NOT Porsche build quality. BUT, it can hang with or clean their clock on most days !! My $.02 :-)
Bruce
08-16-2018, 01:25 PM
#144
Race Director
did you actually read the article you linked to?
Because it basically says exactly what you are trying to refute. In that comparison the 911 was significantly quicker in the quarter mile and rated as a significantly more comfortable road car.
the Grand Sport braked in shorter distances and was faster on a road course. But I would point out that it was also wearing cup 2 tires whereas as the whereas the 911 was wearing Pirelli P Zeros, so the 911 was on Street oriented tires instead of the track tires the Corvette was wearing. That tire difference has got to be worth at least a second if not more on the road course.
Because it basically says exactly what you are trying to refute. In that comparison the 911 was significantly quicker in the quarter mile and rated as a significantly more comfortable road car.
the Grand Sport braked in shorter distances and was faster on a road course. But I would point out that it was also wearing cup 2 tires whereas as the whereas the 911 was wearing Pirelli P Zeros, so the 911 was on Street oriented tires instead of the track tires the Corvette was wearing. That tire difference has got to be worth at least a second if not more on the road course.
First time I've heard that, but I'm assuming if that happened with earlier GT350's Ford has corrected it. From what I've experienced with my ZO6 so far, GM has corrected the "limp mode" overheating issue in the ZO6, but then again that issue was pretty much with the automatics and mine is a manual. The only quirk with the GT350 I noticed that it was a bit soft on torque below 3,500 or so, but after that the car is a screamer, while the Corvette produces big torque pretty much from idle all the way up.
http://fordshelbygt350forum.com/topic/6051-gt-350-rough-idle-and-no-acceleration-after-being-on-freeway/
https://trackmustangsonline.com/thre...e-codes.13609/
Last edited by pdiddy972; 08-16-2018 at 01:34 PM. Reason: combining posts
08-16-2018, 01:58 PM
#146
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08-16-2018, 06:44 PM
#147
Here's something completely irrelevant I saw the newest GT350 reviewed from stem to stern on you tube and the guy said the cost was (est) $65,000 for the GT350 plus $9000 for tech package $74,000 My '15 Z51 A8 was $75,055.
525 hp IN THE FORD ..460hp IN THE C7.
Now rumor has it that the C8 will start with 500-525 HP.
525 hp IN THE FORD ..460hp IN THE C7.
Now rumor has it that the C8 will start with 500-525 HP.
08-16-2018, 08:26 PM
#148
Le Mans Master
For anyone to even compare a Mustang to a Corvette, on any level, speaks volumes about Ford’s progression in R&D. Those who have hurt feelings over the GT350 will be seeking therapy when the new GT500 is released next year.
The GT350 is not an under achieving oil guzzling clunker many portray on here... Sure, some have issues, like oil consumption and over-heating, but Corvettes have their issues too.
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08-16-2018, 09:23 PM
#149
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Here's something completely irrelevant I saw the newest GT350 reviewed from stem to stern on you tube and the guy said the cost was (est) $65,000 for the GT350 plus $9000 for tech package $74,000 My '15 Z51 A8 was $75,055.
525 hp IN THE FORD ..460hp IN THE C7.
Now rumor has it that the C8 will start with 500-525 HP.
525 hp IN THE FORD ..460hp IN THE C7.
Now rumor has it that the C8 will start with 500-525 HP.
And yes, it does have 526 HP but also weights 400 lbs more than a base Corvette. That extra 66 HP doesn't really motivate the car faster. The GT350R only beats the non-GS around the track because of tires. It has Cup 2's which are KNOWN to subtract about 2 seconds on VIR. The GS and Z06 as tested by C&D always have the Stage 2/Stage 3 kits with the Carbon Ceramic Brakes (and Cup 2 Tires).
I remind my co-worker that now he has PS4's on his GT350R that its a wash (on lap times) versus my Z51 Corvette.
08-16-2018, 09:36 PM
#150
Melting Slicks
Here's something completely irrelevant I saw the newest GT350 reviewed from stem to stern on you tube and the guy said the cost was (est) $65,000 for the GT350 plus $9000 for tech package $74,000 My '15 Z51 A8 was $75,055.
525 hp IN THE FORD ..460hp IN THE C7.
Now rumor has it that the C8 will start with 500-525 HP.
525 hp IN THE FORD ..460hp IN THE C7.
Now rumor has it that the C8 will start with 500-525 HP.
08-17-2018, 12:47 AM
#151
Le Mans Master
Those are the tires Porsche chose and engineered the car around. Every car can't simply have any tire put on it and benefit from it. For example, cars that don't have dry dump oil systems can't have super sticky tires put on them because it enables the car to produce oil starvation issues the engineers weren't accounting for (possibly).
https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/threads/limp-mode-while-out-for-a-drive-in-the-country.50835/
http://fordshelbygt350forum.com/topic/6051-gt-350-rough-idle-and-no-acceleration-after-being-on-freeway/
https://trackmustangsonline.com/thre...e-codes.13609/
08-17-2018, 08:43 AM
#152
Instructor
Interesting! Just shows that any Manufacturer can have issues with a new car. There was an issue with Porsche 911 GT3's a few years back, they kept it pretty quiet but rumor had it some of the engines were going boom, and Porsche quietly replaced them. I guess it's not the fact that you have a problem, it's how the company handles it.
I had a recent run with a GT350 in mexico. I'm probably in the minority here, I think they sound terrible most of the time (normal street driving, cruising down the highway,) but when I let him pass by my open passenger window at near redline, that car sounded amazing.
It was a fast car, for sure, but not what you'd expect for 526hp. All that weight and poor aerodynamics maybe. I'm certainly not disappointed to have ended up in a C7 GS rather than a 350R