Originally Posted by DPC57

I bought my 2017 Z51 2LT coupe with sueded seat inserts and steering wheel, PDR/Nav, MSRC (all the options I wanted) New for $59.500 last November (MSRP $73k). If you're looking at leftover 17s, keep that in mind

Originally Posted by montanaman

You did well. Your dealer must have cursed you as you drove off lol. That deep of a discount had to come with some serious haggling. Strangely with the plethora of cars out there I'm really having to grind the hell the out of these dealers to move off their " my price is the low price" BS. The used 2017 that I'm passing on dropped in price on their web-site the next day after I passed so that line they use is complete crap. I also am sourcing cars in the Pacific Northwest and once labor day comes and goes the market for these cars goes away so one would think they would be more eager.

Originally Posted by gbranham

While I agree, a tire change at 2200 miles is a red flag, there's nothing wrong with Nitto Invos, or the fact that they aren't Run Flat tires. I ran Nitto Invos on my 2012 Grand Sport after my stockers were tired at 14,000 miles...the Nittos were superior in every way...quieter, softer ride, and stickier. Just my .02..

I've run them on several cars, and also have run Nitto truck tires on four trucks. Excellent wear, excellent traction. No, I don't work for Nitto...

Greg

Originally Posted by Sconn

We did a little haggling, but they wouldn't come down much. The car was already priced well, which I partly attribute to it being at a BMW dealership as opposed to a Chevy dealer.

Sometimes with used cars, it all depends on what they're in it for, but ya, they will definitely play the game with you. I think you made the right decision walking away from that car. Don't look back...

I know of one other 2017 GS in Spokane, Wa for a similar price with even lower miles!

https://www.kbb.com/cars-for-sale/48...9&distance=200

I'm not a fan of yellow, otherwise I would have checked this one out too.

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Originally Posted by GT2BHPPY

Check to see if NCM (national corvette museum) members still get GM employee pricing. If so, join the NCM and get about 4-5 k off a new car.

Originally Posted by montanaman

I see the one in Billings and its on my radar. I just went to make a deal on the used Z51 here and unfortunately when I saw the car clean ( kind of ) I noticed several major blemishes (to me) and some of them are probably not repairable unless repainted. Bummer. The story on the Nitto tires that are on it makes sense. The original owner pulled the OEM Michelins off and put these on so he could drive it in the winter. And he did. And it shows. Looks like someone set a purse on the roof and left some nice scratches there and a long one on the drivers A pillar that I would have to look at every time I got in the car. I offered them 45k out the door due to the condition of the car and the condition of the market ( flooded now) with these cars. They did the usual song and dance and came down from 51,700 to 49k. They do have the unused Michelins and will put those on and give me the almost new Nitto's as well. The car just was not babied like most do with cars like this and it shows. Probably ran it through a car wash as well. I walked at 49k. If they meet my price it will be tempting as that is well below any market measure but I don't think I can live with the condition. Shame. I did get to take it on a longer second test drive and I'm in. Brilliant car for the money. That Rev Match on the stick is just so great.

Originally Posted by montanaman

So now that this used Z51 is off the table I'm wondering if I should skip the Z51 package ( not a lot of those around) and spend that money on the 2LT and get more creature comforts/smaller tires and forego the performance package. They all come with the modes ( sport/eco etc) so is there that much difference in the handling between the Z51 and the stock Stingray? I will probably never track the car and it will be driven fast and somewhat hard but nothing radical. While the roads here in Montana are wide open some of them are a bit rough so maybe the base model with the smaller rubber is a better way to go. And if I can live with a bone stock 7 speed LT1 there are tons of 2019's in the low-mid 50's now.

Originally Posted by jimmbbo

IMO the only thing the Z and GS vettes give to a street-only car is some bragging rights and body bling that some people love, but add complexity and unused systems to the car.
There are PLENTY of great Stingrays on dealer lots that they'd love to be rid of, and even if it takes an airplane ride to get it, the drive back will be a blast...

Originally Posted by jimmbbo

IMO the only thing the Z and GS vettes give to a street-only car is some bragging rights and body bling that some people love, but add complexity and unused systems to the car.
There are PLENTY of great Stingrays on dealer lots that they'd love to be rid of, and even if it takes an airplane ride to get it, the drive back will be a blast...

Originally Posted by montanaman

I'm not just shopping for the best deal but for the best car for the money. Big difference. With the massive amount of these cars out there it would make no sense to not. Most of them have been discounted so many times it's hard to even get a real price. And the odd thing is how lame the sales people are out there when it comes to SELLING. Awful. Most couldn't sell water in the desert. There are cars that they have been sitting on for well over a year and they could care less. No motivation whatsoever and I'm not talking about the money part. Believe me I'm trying to get a car. Can't find one that is optioned properly. Most have the PDR/Nav instead of Magna ride ( same cost ) etc. I'm now trying to order new and I'm sure that will be challenging regardless of cost. Just having a hard time finding competent people out there these days. Most just don't really care. YMMV.

Originally Posted by montanaman

I'm not just shopping for the best deal but for the best car for the money. Big difference. With the massive amount of these cars out there it would make no sense to not. Most of them have been discounted so many times it's hard to even get a real price. And the odd thing is how lame the sales people are out there when it comes to SELLING. Awful. Most couldn't sell water in the desert. There are cars that they have been sitting on for well over a year and they could care less. No motivation whatsoever and I'm not talking about the money part. Believe me I'm trying to get a car. Can't find one that is optioned properly. Most have the PDR/Nav instead of Magna ride ( same cost ) etc. I'm now trying to order new and I'm sure that will be challenging regardless of cost. Just having a hard time finding competent people out there these days. Most just don't really care. YMMV.

Originally Posted by Thunder22

I've recommended that you call Mike Furman at Criswell Chevrolet in Gaithersberg MD a couple of times now. All of your problems will be solved. There's a reason he has sold over 4,000 vettes

Originally Posted by montanaman

Hello all. I've been looking for a summer sports car here in Montana and was close to buying a new Mustang GT but they've got some serious issues over there so I'm now over here where I should have been all along. I've always liked Corvettes ( except some in the late 90's) but never thought the C7's with any goodies were in financial reach.

Local dealer has been sitting on a Torch red, 1LT ZR1 with a couple thousand miles on the clock. It has some of the carbon bits ( spoiler and mirrors) and a black hood stripe. With the black wheels ( I usually don't like them ) it is a stunning car and it seems to be optioned well enough. It has the infotainment deal but no Nav which is no biggy. Anything I need to look for other than the usual used car stuff ? The car was put in to service a little less than a year ago so it still has a couple years warranty. The CarFax is clean with the car being serviced by the dealer ( oil ) at 2k miles and a windshield wiper pump and seatbelt latch replaced. Other than that the car is clean. We are in the negotiating stage but it looks like a go. He's a little high on price and that " this is the price" rap has got to go. Everything is negotiable and cars change value daily so I just ignore that line. Values on cars like this change daily.

Any major recalls or TSB's that applied to this year? Is it worth paying little more for the car that has the ZR1 package? I loved the exhaust notes ( adjustable) and the rev match with the 7 speed is awesome. I took it for a 10 mile test drive and was pretty blown away. I've driven my buddies new Z06 so I know what thats all about ( too much for my old ***) and the handling on this ZR1 excellent and comparable to my old 2005 911S. It's that good. Not wild about red seats but I can look past it. Other than that I think the car is about as set up as if I were ordering a new one right down to the color. Any reason not to pull the trigger?

Thanks. Looks like a great forum. I'll get some pics up next week if I get it.

Originally Posted by montanaman

I went through every car on his web-site and none of them were what I am looking for. I'll call him to see if he can help source one from somewhere else but that never works. And he's 2000 miles away. If you want a Z06 or a GS he's your guy. He's got dozens of those. I'm close on a new 17. Looking into rent a cars. It will be a 450 mile trip to get it but the drive back will be great. And as far as "looking for a deal" goes. I've never seen a situation where there are 3 "new" different model years on lots at the same time so why wouldn't you shop for price. I've paid full boat for a couple of cars that I had to have and there were no options but in this situation? Crazy. Too bad the people ordering these cars do such a random job when it comes to options on the car. Torch red/black 2LT with performance exhaust, magna ride,nav/pdr, carbon Z51 spoiler,black wheels and badges. Can't find one like that. Seems like a no brainer.