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Yup, the difference between a z51 with mag ride and GS price wise is around $3k.
What does it matter? If the guy wants a GS, then he's getting screwed out of nearly $6,000.00, right off the bat. The GS is not any faster than the Z51. . Is it worth throwing $6,000.00 away? If it's you, then I guess so.
You're in looney land degrading ZO6es. You don't know what you're talking about.
And for the record your $10,000.00 blown on a GS has zilch more horsepower than the BASE Stingrays.
Last edited by Skid Row Joe; 08-15-2018 at 05:48 PM.
What does it matter? If the guy wants a GS, then he's getting screwed out of nearly $6,000.00, right off the bat. The GS is not any faster than the Z51.
Joe, you keep making Presidential- like inaccuracies.
It's well settled through MotorTrend's official testing (eg, at Laguna Seca and Willow) that the C7 GS is many seconds faster (2.5-7s) than the C7 Z51 with the same driver (RP). That's light years on a minute and a half lap...
We have other cars to benchmark... The Z51 ran over a sec faster than a GT350 at Willow but was half a sec slower than a GT350R at LS... GS ran several secsfaster than the GT350R at Laguna Seca.
What does it matter? If the guy wants a GS, then he's getting screwed out of nearly $6,000.00, right off the bat. The GS is not any faster than the Z51. . Is it worth throwing $6,000.00 away? If it's you, then I guess so.
You're in looney land degrading ZO6es. You don't know what you're talking about.
And for the record your $10,000.00 blown on a GS has zilch more horsepower than the BASE Stingrays.
Joe, I don't know why we even acknowledge your ridiculous posts, it's as if you try to confirm how ignorant you are with your every one.
I doubt you have ever even driven a GS. If you had you would know it's NOT ABOUT THE HP, its about the total driving experience. There's no doubt that the Z51 is a great sportscar just like every version of the C7 however it's doesn't turn out as quick the track times as the GS.
Your bizarre need to totally trash Grand Sports and 1LT trim package is really weird.
Last edited by Kevin A Jones; 08-15-2018 at 06:27 PM.
What does it matter? If the guy wants a GS, then he's getting screwed out of nearly $6,000.00, right off the bat. The GS is not any faster than the Z51. . Is it worth throwing $6,000.00 away? If it's you, then I guess so.
You're in looney land degrading ZO6es. You don't know what you're talking about.
And for the record your $10,000.00 blown on a GS has zilch more horsepower than the BASE Stingrays.
Here we go again....What's the song from the 90's..."Hey Jealousy..."
What does it matter? If the guy wants a GS, then he's getting screwed out of nearly $6,000.00, right off the bat. The GS is not any faster than the Z51. . Is it worth throwing $6,000.00 away? If it's you, then I guess so.
You're in looney land degrading ZO6es. You don't know what you're talking about.
And for the record your $10,000.00 blown on a GS has zilch more horsepower than the BASE Stingrays.
For most owners the GS is for looks. It has the advantage on the track for sure. However I would bet that on the street a base C7 with Z51 would be right with a GS in just about any race. They are both great cars in their own way.
The 3LT option is 100% worth it. The GS option is well over $10,000.00. You might want to analyze what you get for $10,000.00. Not much, outside of ornamental gimmickry. The GS engine has zilch more horsepower than the Z51 OR base Stingray. You're paying through the nose for something that's no more faster than the Z51/base. If you're crazy about all the ornamental stuff, just get a ZO6. That, IS worth the extra dollars,, since it's actually a faster car.
If a C7 isn't an obvious upgrade for you, it isn't for you.
I wanted information about practical experience from owners about their C7 Grand Sports. All of the replies (other than your's) have been very helpful and educational.
The 3LT option is 100% worth it. The GS option is well over $10,000.00. You might want to analyze what you get for $10,000.00. Not much, outside of ornamental gimmickry. The GS engine has zilch more horsepower than the Z51 OR base Stingray. You're paying through the nose for something that's no more faster than the Z51/base. If you're crazy about all the ornamental stuff, just get a ZO6. That, IS worth the extra dollars,, since it's actually a faster car.
So an extra $4k for leather that shrinks in the sun is worth it, but an extra $3-4K for a GS vs. a Z51 is not? What color is the sky in your world?
Fwiw you obviously dig the concept of getting value for your money as you ve held onto your c6for a decade..
that said...wait 6 months to a year...
the c8 is releasing at the detroit autoshow on january 14th.
the dealers will be giving away c7 grand sports to get a larger allocation of first year c8s...
the discounts on c7 s next year will be insane..
not to mention tje waxer guys who presently own c7 grand sports and just jave to jave the latest amd greatest c8 corvette..
if you can wait 6 months to a year youll save a ton of cash on your newly d3cided got to have corvette grand sport..
at least consider th persoective ive laid out and decide if your ten year old c6 can continue to serve you till the tital wave of much lower cost c7 gramd sports become avaialble as the new generation c8 releases..
gm piles on incentives on the last year of production big time and preowned corvettes drop hard after the release of a new generation is the theme im trying to convey.
giod luck deciding
Part of my original post and questions were because I am looking at a specific 2018 Admiral Blue/Grey 3LT Grand Sport which also has the Z07 package. It is offered at a substantial discount off sticker (as it should be!) but I really wanted everyone's input who have experience with the car so I can more fully evaluate this specific opportunity. I did a full search and there are very few Admiral Blue GS's out there. The information you have given me on the Z07 package (and the Sport Cup 2 tires) is very helpful. It is not a package I would have ordered from Bowling Green, as was my C6 custom order in Jetstream Metallic Blue with Z51. I was thinking I would do a couple HPDE weekends to learn the new car, burn up the Sport Cup 2's, and replace with Super Sport ZP's, which are currently on my C6. The information and perspectives on the 2LT and 3LT were equally helpful.
You all will find that I have "Thanked" many of your replies, because of all of the information and the different perspectives provided, and you all have broadened my evaluation process. While all of the responses have been helpful, the JerriVette (#10) and kennyjames21 (#14-#17) responses have been particularly helpful. I was not aware of the timing for the release of the C8, but it certainly seems that it will have a great effect on the prices for new C7 Grand Sports in the next 6 to 9 months, as Jerri Vette detailed. I certainly saw the same effect on the C6's once the C7 launched.
So again, THANK YOU TO ALL who have replied and assisted me on this endeavor. I still adore my C6 (please check her out on my profile page and in the galleries I posted) and she still runs great! However, as my daily driver, I am probably approaching the time for replacement. Rick
I have a GS Z07, Competition seats, PDR, 1LT, M7. Love it. Looks great, sticks to the road like glue, always composed. Did my first track day in it last week, it was awesome
Only things I don't like -
Z07 rear sits high, rear spring is stiff and it wants to stay up there. Cutting bushings are next, not sure if I want to do that.
5th,6th,7th are way too tall. I can see 1 tall gear for reduced revs and better mileage, but 3 of them is a waste
Cup 2s pick up everything. They fit the personality of the car well, but they just grab junk nonstop.
If I bought again I would have got exactly the same car.
I have a 2018 GS 3LT (w/out Z07). I would buy the exact same car again in a minute. Love it. I live in AZ and the ventilated seats are a very nice option. I like the look of the full leather interior. Love the way the car handles - drives as if its on rails. The brake dust from the stock pads is a real issue if you like clean wheels. Haven't swapped them out yet, but plan on it. Cant speak to the Z07 package, I just didn't think it was the right option for me - YMMV.
FWIW - I know you didn't ask this but...I rented a Stingray Z51 3LT for 4 days before buying the GS. I felt a noticeable difference in handling of the two cars. I attribute this to the wider tires, brakes and suspension.
Another GS owner here. I was also looking at Z06's when I came across my GS. I was getting out of a Superformance MKIII Cobra and timing was everything in my case. I found this GS with the right options, and extras, at a price/trade that was hard to pass. Would I have been happy with a Z06?...sure, but I just wouldn't get the full experience of a Z06 with the type of use/driving my car gets. I had 585 hp in the Cobra, and while a hoot to unleash, it was just too much for a street car and lacked drivability, and comfort. The GS is of course quicker with its A8 vs. the Cobra's Tremec 5 speed and gearing...but the overall experience is so different as the cars are two very different animals. Having driven the Z06, it reminded me of the harder to tame nature of the Cobra. BTDT. The GS was just right, at the right time. Good Luck with your decision process Rick. Cheers
Hi, All! I love and greatly enjoy my 2008 C6 Z51 (photos and details on my profile), but after 10+ years and now 122,000 miles, I am thinking about a 2018 C7 Grand Sport 3LT with Z07 package. I have a lot of questions. Can everyone please join in who has experience with C7 Grand Sports, especially the 2018 year, and the Z07 package? Please educate me on your positive and negative experiences, as well as problems and maintenance costs. All responses will be greatly appreciated! Rick
After A LOT of research, I purchased a 2017 Watkins Glen Gray 2LT M7 w/Z07 GS last November (at a 24% discount off of sticker price including delivery to Northern Virginia) and I couldn't be happier with it, it is absolutely an awesome car.
NO regrets about not getting a Z06, to me it wasn't worth the money.
I have nearly 5k miles on the cup 2 tires and they are no where near worn out!
I daily drive my GS with no issues.
There's basically (3) reasons the Grand Sport is appealing to so many:
The beautiful and exotic wide-body look is VERY POPULAR.
The exceptional marrying of power-handling-braking makes the over-all Grand Sport driving experience among that of the very finest sportscars in the world.
The GS package offers the most bang for the buck of any C7 package.
Z16 GS Performance Package features ($10,000): Specific front fender inserts; Z06 style grill; wider rear fenders; front splitter; rocker skirts, additional brake cooling vents and wickerbill rear spoiler; GS CUP-style wheels; Michelin super-sport summer only tires (P285/30ZR19” front, P33525ZR20” rear); 6-piston front and 4-pison front Bremo brakes; Slotted brake rotors; Magnetic Ride Control and Electronic Limited-slip differential; NPP exhaust, Dry-sump oil system; Rear differential cooler; transmission cooler.
I moved from a C6 to a C7 GS, and absolutely love it. It seems to turn more heads than a non-wide-body, and we all like that, whether we admit it or not. I didn't need the extra power of the supercharger, but love the extra grip of the GS. Given the choice, I would choose the GS again, and not look back.
Yup.. .That's why after a ton of research, I decided to go with the GS instead of the Z51. It was worth the extra $10k (as Skid Row guy says) to me just for the wider body. I don't need the extra hp.. What for? Since when is nearly 500 hp not enough for the streets?
There are some out there who feel the Z has a little too much hp for the car...
The big three seem to be selling a lot of these " unnecessary" 500 plus hp cars. If some feel that a Z Vette can't handle it's high horsepower then it needs a driver mod and a trip to Spring Mountain. If you can afford it don't talk yourself out of a ZO6 with the statement of " who needs more than 500 hp for the street because in 2000 they were saying who needs 390 hp for the street as well. My Hellcat has 707 right out of the box but without the driver mod most putter around in them as if they where an SXT so I flew my *** out to Bondurant to get my driver mod. To the op. get what you want/ can afford. The GS is a great bang for the buck and is definitely worth $10k over a base.Simple as that.
The GS Still amazes me after almost 12k miles.How Well this car Sticks on turns.
Best part.Is when you take a friend on a .....Ride.After the repeated demands to slow down,and don't.The comments of living threw,that Turn...Priceless
Quote,Skid MARK: The GS option is well over $10,000.00. You might want to analyze what you get for $10,000.00.
Hay SKID MARK(in pants) JOE:It's worth every penny
The GS Still amazes me after almost 12k miles.How Well this car Sticks on turns.
Best part.Is when you take a friend on a .....Ride.After the repeated demands to slow down,and don't.The comments of living threw,that Turn...Priceless
Quote,Skid MARK: The GS option is well over $10,000.00. You might want to analyze what you get for $10,000.00.
Hay SKID MARK(in pants) JOE:It's worth every penny
So true, it happened once with the wifey, only once though.
Reference Skidmark's comment, actually ALL of Skidmark's comments, he is obviously regretting his purchase of his non-Grand Sport or Z06.
I moved from a C6 to a C7 GS, and absolutely love it. It seems to turn more heads than a non-wide-body, and we all like that, whether we admit it or not. I didn't need the extra power of the supercharger, but love the extra grip of the GS. Given the choice, I would choose the GS again, and not look back.
This seems backwards. I've seen over a g in my base with its lowly 18/19 wheels on the street. I drove a Z51 at Spring Mountain as fast as I could and didn't reach the cars limits. So I don't see how you can appreciate the extra grip of the GS on the street. However I frequently want more power on the street for more pull during those accelerations between many turns or even when blasting out of an entrance ramp. I would appreciate the power of a Z most every ride. Often the non-Z motor seems a bit underwhelming. Not the chassis.
08-15-2018, 11:50 AM
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