New 2016?
08-21-2018, 12:31 PM
#21
Exception ID 10T
West of Jacksonville not too far out of town. Not a lot of deals around here. You have a lot of dealers near you that sell a lot of vettes, plus you have independents with great reputations to work on them. Nothing like that around here. All the best with your search. You will find what you want, although you might have to travel for it. Sounds like the one you are looking at, the dealer must be related to pt barnum who once said there is a sucker born every minute. They've been waiting 3 years for the sucker, and might wait longer.
08-21-2018, 12:50 PM
#22
I think you're wrong about the oil. My car is 2 years old from new, and has never had it's oil changed. Warranties don't void on oil with little or no miles on it. Lol!
The battery is covered 3yr/36K from the time it sells.
Radials do not get flat spots from setting - even if it did just sit in one place. So, you're wrong about that too.
I think a lot of people are making assumptions that aren't true about oil, tires, etc. My warranty is not void, any more than this 2016 up for sale new. #LOL!
You missed the part where they're charging another $2,500.00 or so on top of the firm price too. So you got that wrong too. 😛
The battery is covered 3yr/36K from the time it sells.
Radials do not get flat spots from setting - even if it did just sit in one place. So, you're wrong about that too.
I think a lot of people are making assumptions that aren't true about oil, tires, etc. My warranty is not void, any more than this 2016 up for sale new. #LOL!
You missed the part where they're charging another $2,500.00 or so on top of the firm price too. So you got that wrong too. 😛
I hope you don't run into any engine issues skid mark, lol.
08-21-2018, 08:59 PM
#23
Melting Slicks
08-21-2018, 11:59 PM
#24
You're nuts kennykeyboard, if you think oil goes bad on day number 366. But, you're probably that delusional. Lol!
08-22-2018, 12:16 AM
#25
Mayor111,
I'm not sure where you're getting your information from, but your posts are not based on anything I've read or experienced with running vehicles for almost 50 years. Your beliefs of radial tires development of flat spots is false. They don't
My car has 2K miles on it. You say the oil is bad? That's looney.. You claim that my clutch fluid needed to be checked at 2K, miles? Again, you're sounding looney.
Your beliefs about oil going bad inside 2 years is also 100% false. It doesn't go bad in even 5+ years.
Your beliefs about warranties being null and void is also false. Not to be mean, but everything you wrote is either false or you didn't read what you think you did.
I'm not sure where you're getting your information from, but your posts are not based on anything I've read or experienced with running vehicles for almost 50 years. Your beliefs of radial tires development of flat spots is false. They don't
My car has 2K miles on it. You say the oil is bad? That's looney.. You claim that my clutch fluid needed to be checked at 2K, miles? Again, you're sounding looney.
Your beliefs about oil going bad inside 2 years is also 100% false. It doesn't go bad in even 5+ years.
Your beliefs about warranties being null and void is also false. Not to be mean, but everything you wrote is either false or you didn't read what you think you did.
Last edited by Skid Row Joe; 08-22-2018 at 02:00 PM.
08-22-2018, 02:47 PM
#26
I posted a quote from the GM USER MANUAL - GM says you should change the oil AT LEAST once per year. If you have engine issues and you go to GM for warranty service and they find out you haven't changed the oil for 2 YEARS, good luck getting them to honor your warranty...
And radial tires can develop flat spots, especially high performance tires like the ones on our cars - look it up on the internet (or have a youngster do it for you if you're not familiar...).
08-22-2018, 02:48 PM
#27
I think they could probably talk skid mark into buying it, lol.
08-22-2018, 03:41 PM
#28
I'll try to type slowly so it really sinks in...
I posted a quote from the GM USER MANUAL - GM says you should change the oil AT LEAST once per year. If you have engine issues and you go to GM for warranty service and they find out you haven't changed the oil for 2 YEARS, good luck getting them to honor your warranty...
And radial tires can develop flat spots, especially high performance tires like the ones on our cars - look it up on the internet (or have a youngster do it for you if you're not familiar...).
I posted a quote from the GM USER MANUAL - GM says you should change the oil AT LEAST once per year. If you have engine issues and you go to GM for warranty service and they find out you haven't changed the oil for 2 YEARS, good luck getting them to honor your warranty...
And radial tires can develop flat spots, especially high performance tires like the ones on our cars - look it up on the internet (or have a youngster do it for you if you're not familiar...).
I'll type real slow so that this'll lol sink in.
Radial tires do not develop flat spots. Maybe in your little world ALL radial tires do, but not in the real World.
Synthetic oil does not self destruct on day # 366, and, no warranty is voided on that day!
Really, you should seek help.
Last edited by Skid Row Joe; 08-22-2018 at 04:23 PM.
08-22-2018, 05:25 PM
#29
Race Director
Wrong.
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiret....jsp?techid=42
From that article:
"The longer tires remain stationary, the better they remember the position in which they were last parked. Tires on vehicles stored on the ground for many months can be permanently flat-spotted."
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiret....jsp?techid=42
From that article:
"The longer tires remain stationary, the better they remember the position in which they were last parked. Tires on vehicles stored on the ground for many months can be permanently flat-spotted."
08-22-2018, 05:27 PM
#30
Wrong.
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiret....jsp?techid=42
From that article:
"The longer tires remain stationary, the better they remember the position in which they were last parked. Tires on vehicles stored on the ground for many months can be permanently flat-spotted."
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiret....jsp?techid=42
From that article:
"The longer tires remain stationary, the better they remember the position in which they were last parked. Tires on vehicles stored on the ground for many months can be permanently flat-spotted."
08-22-2018, 05:29 PM
#31
kennykeyboard,
I'll type real slow so that this'll lol sink in.
Radial tires do not develop flat spots. Maybe in your little world ALL radial tires do, but not in the real World.
Synthetic oil does not self destruct on day # 366, and, no warranty is voided on that day!
Really, you should seek help.
I'll type real slow so that this'll lol sink in.
Radial tires do not develop flat spots. Maybe in your little world ALL radial tires do, but not in the real World.
Synthetic oil does not self destruct on day # 366, and, no warranty is voided on that day!
Really, you should seek help.
As for the oil, the GM Manual states that your oil must be changed at least once per year (this is irrefutable, it's in the manual, if you can't read it ask someone to help you) - that means if you have an engine issue they can deny you warranty coverage because you did not follow the simple instructions they put in your user manual. They might take pity on a senile old lady like you though, and cover you anyway, but I wouldn't count on it.
08-22-2018, 05:35 PM
#32
Melting Slicks
kennykeyboard,
I'll type real slow so that this'll lol sink in.
Radial tires do not develop flat spots. Maybe in your little world ALL radial tires do, but not in the real World.
Synthetic oil does not self destruct on day # 366, and, no warranty is voided on that day!
Really, you should seek help.
I'll type real slow so that this'll lol sink in.
Radial tires do not develop flat spots. Maybe in your little world ALL radial tires do, but not in the real World.
Synthetic oil does not self destruct on day # 366, and, no warranty is voided on that day!
Really, you should seek help.
This is how his for sale ad will look:
2017 Z06 For Sale
No oil changes done - NOT NEEDED CAUSE I SAID SO
No Clutch Fluid - NOT CHECKED CAUSE I SAID SO
Tires are Flat - BUT THEY DON'T GET FLAT CAUSE I SAID SO
No Warranty - GM Wont Honor it - but just IGNORE THAT - they'll do anything I ask cause Im RICH AND I SAID SO (many times)
No Service was done on the car cause I've been driving for 50 years and maintenance isn't necessary CAUSE I SAID SO
No Owners Manual included - I threw it out - it was BS anyway - kept telling me to change my oil, but you dont need a manual CAUSE I SAID SO
Now give me top dollar for a neglected car with zero maintenance FOR TWO REASONS:
1) CAUSE I'M RICH
2) CAUSE I SAID SO
Oh wait - here comes Skid's reply - ready for it? Its going to be something like - I'M SO RICH, I DON'T SELL MY VETTE, I JUST TRADE THEM IN FOR THE NEXT MOST EXPENSIVE CAR I CAN BRAG ABOUT ONLINE TO PEOPLE WHO DON'T GIVE A $HIT. I DONT CARE ABOUT DEPRECIATION CAUSE I'M RICH...CAUSE I SAID SO
Skid - you make me laugh brother - your crazy "CAUSE I SAID SO" logic just kills me... You're like Howard Stern - even though people hate him, they listen JUST because they want to hear what crazy crap he'll say next...thank you for always being entertaining.
08-22-2018, 05:36 PM
#33
Race Director
To get us back on track of helping the OP....
The car should not have a $70K MSRP if the only options it has is DSOM/Auto/PDR/Nav/Exhaust. Should be closer to $64,500 or so. Based on that and assuming the car has NOT been in service, so all warranties START when you drive it off the lot, I would offer $50K OUT THE DOOR.
The minute it's titled, it's 3 model years old.
The car should not have a $70K MSRP if the only options it has is DSOM/Auto/PDR/Nav/Exhaust. Should be closer to $64,500 or so. Based on that and assuming the car has NOT been in service, so all warranties START when you drive it off the lot, I would offer $50K OUT THE DOOR.
The minute it's titled, it's 3 model years old.
Last edited by jimmyb; 08-22-2018 at 06:48 PM.
08-22-2018, 05:56 PM
#34
Race Director
08-23-2018, 08:22 AM
#35
Former Vendor
08-23-2018, 10:27 AM
#36
Burning Brakes
My car has 2K miles on it. You say the oil is bad? That's looney.. You claim that my clutch fluid needed to be checked at 2K, miles? Again, you're sounding looney. Your beliefs about oil going bad inside 2 years is also 100% false. It doesn't go bad in even 5+ years.
08-23-2018, 10:06 PM
#37
As the other poster pointed out, you are wrong about the flat spots and we have shown you evidence.
As for the oil, the GM Manual states that your oil must be changed at least once per year (this is irrefutable, it's in the manual, if you can't read it ask someone to help you) - that means if you have an engine issue they can deny you warranty coverage because you did not follow the simple instructions they put in your user manual. They might take pity on a senile old lady like you though, and cover you anyway, but I wouldn't count on it.
As for the oil, the GM Manual states that your oil must be changed at least once per year (this is irrefutable, it's in the manual, if you can't read it ask someone to help you) - that means if you have an engine issue they can deny you warranty coverage because you did not follow the simple instructions they put in your user manual. They might take pity on a senile old lady like you though, and cover you anyway, but I wouldn't count on it.
08-23-2018, 10:13 PM
#38
Yes, I would have concerns...
Big concern is that the tires are likely flat spotted from sitting so long and will never feel right no matter how many time they get re-balanced.
Another is the battery. Typical life of factory crappy AC Delco batteries are not that great in the first place, much less having to hassle with it now.
And also no oil chances for several years, when the factory requires a minimum of once a year to keep your warranty valid, which is certainly for good reason.
There is 3 years of depreciation already built in the minute you buy it.
It would need to be a ton of money off compared to the amount of money you can get off a new 2019, which is 3 years newer.
At $54k from $70 I would pass big time.
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Big concern is that the tires are likely flat spotted from sitting so long and will never feel right no matter how many time they get re-balanced.
Another is the battery. Typical life of factory crappy AC Delco batteries are not that great in the first place, much less having to hassle with it now.
And also no oil chances for several years, when the factory requires a minimum of once a year to keep your warranty valid, which is certainly for good reason.
There is 3 years of depreciation already built in the minute you buy it.
It would need to be a ton of money off compared to the amount of money you can get off a new 2019, which is 3 years newer.
At $54k from $70 I would pass big time.
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Not sure but I would assume that the C7's are not going to measure out that much differently in a few years because there were almost zero changes done to the car between 2016 and 2019. Will it be worth less than a 2018 or 19 in 5 years? Sure it will but I don't think it will be that drastic. The car is still being sold as new so car fax will show original owner and in service date. It comes with a full factory 3 year warranty just like any new car. Price wise is high. 50k ish might be a fair price.
08-23-2018, 10:19 PM
#39
Drifting
It's going to have the warble and most likely torque convertor problems.
08-24-2018, 08:35 AM
#40
Melting Slicks
You cannot possibly come out ahead buying this car unless it is at least ten thousand cheaper than asking. Buy it today, drive it 5,000 miles by next spring, and you will be lucky if it is worth $40,000. Most likely less. This will soon be a five year old car. You would be far ahead buying a base 2019 or a heavily discounted 2018 with the equipment you want.