I hate the "Time Based" Oil Life Monitor
#61
This does not mean the dealer has to change the oil; it could be any service dept, or yourself. As long as you have receipts that show Dexos-approved oil at or around the 0% or one-year-mark, you are compliant.
Whether anyone approves or thinks GM's requirements are bunk is immaterial as long as you are under warranty.
#62
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I'm trying to remember in the last decade+ when I saw a thread on "my engine just blew up" and GM denied warranty because I didn't change the oil in twelve months but did after thirteen months+-.
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#63
Methinks you didn't read what I actually posted.
#64
Kind of makes sense. If you let your car set for a year it would have been the full 12 months. But you drove for 3000 miles so chopped off a month so it was 11 months. I imagine they are being conservatives on the calculation of oil life. Better to change a little early then let bad oil running through the engine. And time can degrade oil. lol not sure how much though or important it actually is.
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St. Jude Donor '13
"Absence of proof is not proof of absence."
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Does anyone know if disconnecting and reconnecting the battery resets the OLM? I'm trying to figure out how long the oil has been in my 2017 that I just got. The car has been around almost 2 years and has had a couple new batteries. After 2500 miles the OLM is at 65%. If the meter is time sensitive I would think it would be telling me to change the oil by now. Pretty sure the dealer never did in the 2 years he was sitting on it.
#67
Just changing the battery isn't going to affect the OLM.
If you remove the battery long-term???? I don't think anyone has posted here about that. I'm assuming you have your service records, so a 7000 mile (or one year) gap between oil changes is surely going to satisfy everyone.
If you remove the battery long-term???? I don't think anyone has posted here about that. I'm assuming you have your service records, so a 7000 mile (or one year) gap between oil changes is surely going to satisfy everyone.
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As I previously posted, in well over 50 years of owning dozens of cars, I never had one that exhibited an oil related issue.
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However, I don't think those failing to comply with the OLM, as I eventually will, will be eliminated from 'warranty requirements' if problems with the electrical systems, transmission, differential, etc. occur.
As I previously posted, in well over 50 years of owning dozens of cars, I never had one that exhibited an oil related issue.
As I previously posted, in well over 50 years of owning dozens of cars, I never had one that exhibited an oil related issue.
#70
However, I don't think those failing to comply with the OLM, as I eventually will, will be eliminated from 'warranty requirements' if problems with the electrical systems, transmission, differential, etc. occur.
As I previously posted, in well over 50 years of owning dozens of cars, I never had one that exhibited an oil related issue.
As I previously posted, in well over 50 years of owning dozens of cars, I never had one that exhibited an oil related issue.
I give up.
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Does anyone know if disconnecting and reconnecting the battery resets the OLM? I'm trying to figure out how long the oil has been in my 2017 that I just got. The car has been around almost 2 years and has had a couple new batteries. After 2500 miles the OLM is at 65%. If the meter is time sensitive I would think it would be telling me to change the oil by now. Pretty sure the dealer never did in the 2 years he was sitting on it.
#72
That's exactly right. Even though a car sitting on a dealer lot for a year should ideally have the oil changed and the OLM will be at 0%, dealers don't have to worry about warranty denials. The B2B warranty starts from the day a car is sold to it's first new registered owner. Thus, most just reset them.
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#75
ByRiver wrote: "Does the vehicle record you resetting the OLM? And I asked before, does the OLM start showing negative numbers once it hits 0%?"
Unless they have changed the system recently it will not show negative numbers after it counts down to zero, it just goes down to zero. GM initially recommended a really long interval for my 2008 CTS (which required synthetic oil) and I didn't care for that long of an operating conditions interval so I would change the oil/filter at around the 50% OLM mark and not reset and then do another change and reset the life when it got to zero. A couple of times I left it at 0 for a week of light operation and it never went lower. After about a year GM issued a mandatory reprogramming of the OLM system (to help address problems with timing components failure) which significantly cut the operating life between changes and after that I began using the OLM in the normal fashion.
I haven't tried it since GM changed to a different diagnostics interface but the old tech 2 could retrieve some OLM data and because the new one uses calendar time as one of its data points then the number of days since the last reset will be stored within the OLM routine and would be retrievable.
Unless they have changed the system recently it will not show negative numbers after it counts down to zero, it just goes down to zero. GM initially recommended a really long interval for my 2008 CTS (which required synthetic oil) and I didn't care for that long of an operating conditions interval so I would change the oil/filter at around the 50% OLM mark and not reset and then do another change and reset the life when it got to zero. A couple of times I left it at 0 for a week of light operation and it never went lower. After about a year GM issued a mandatory reprogramming of the OLM system (to help address problems with timing components failure) which significantly cut the operating life between changes and after that I began using the OLM in the normal fashion.
I haven't tried it since GM changed to a different diagnostics interface but the old tech 2 could retrieve some OLM data and because the new one uses calendar time as one of its data points then the number of days since the last reset will be stored within the OLM routine and would be retrievable.
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So I normally change my oil every year when I get my car inspected. And my car usually has 3500 to around 4500 miles per year at the time of inspection. As a comparison at that point my C6 would have said I had ~40 % or more life left. So this year at about an 11 month interval since the last change and 3000 miles driven, I'm down to 2% life left on the oil. That's absurd.
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Does anyone know if disconnecting and reconnecting the battery resets the OLM? I'm trying to figure out how long the oil has been in my 2017 that I just got. The car has been around almost 2 years and has had a couple new batteries. After 2500 miles the OLM is at 65%. If the meter is time sensitive I would think it would be telling me to change the oil by now. Pretty sure the dealer never did in the 2 years he was
sitting on it.
sitting on it.
According to many fruitcakes here, your engine should have locked up on Day #366 of your oil fill. LOL!
#78
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Not one single person on here has ever said that oil goes bad on day 366, that's just your warped interpretation of what people are saying. What people are really saying is that if you don't change your oil every 12 months, GM will not honor your power train warranty. But reading comprehension is obviously not your strong suit is it?