Z51 or 2LT ?
12-27-2018, 11:31 AM
#121
Easy there! I wasn’t knocking anyone for buying a 3LT. If the right deal came along on a 3LT, I wouldn’t pass it up.
To your point, if you plan to keep the car for longer than the lifespan of the C7 generation, replacement of a cracked rim, though not cheap, will be easier to fix since you simply unbolt the cracked wheels, then bolt new ones on. Replacement of the leather dash pad requires complete removal of the dash......something that I wouldn’t want to deal with if my car is several years beyond the end of the C7 generation Corvette.
Last edited by MMD; 12-27-2018 at 11:32 AM.
12-27-2018, 11:35 AM
#122
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Just like every 3lt owner isn't having issues with dashes, not every GS owner is having problems with wheels, just like every A8 owner isn't having issues with the TC... And on and on it goes.
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12-27-2018, 11:42 AM
#123
Melting Slicks
12-27-2018, 11:49 AM
#124
True. However, a greater percentage of owners are having problems with their wheels and they are not covered by warranty. The A8 and leather dash issues are covered by warranty.
12-27-2018, 11:55 AM
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Upgraded rims add to the look of the car. A replaced dash is just that.
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12-27-2018, 11:57 AM
#126
Weak sauce argument about the 3LT not being in most demand. Sales numbers based on trim levels has nothing to do with the option desirability but has everything to do with added cost. Using this same logic then would suggest the Z06 and ZR1 are less desirable than the Stingray. I would think the added cost is more of a determining factor when you are comparing sales numbers.
12-27-2018, 11:59 AM
#127
Race Director
Your info is from 5 model years ago, now 3LTs make up only about 20% of total.
12-27-2018, 12:04 PM
#128
Ya, I hear ya... This is just my thinking and my opinion only... I would rather spend the money to upgrade my wheels to aftermarket than have my dash torn apart and replaced with the same type of dash that's having problems and risk squeaks and rattles and other damage that dealerships can inflict.
Upgraded rims add to the look of the car. A replaced dash is just that.
Upgraded rims add to the look of the car. A replaced dash is just that.
12-27-2018, 12:06 PM
#129
my 2015 Corvette is a 3LT and the leather is still firmly attach to the dash. Don't forget that forum can often becomes echo chamber. For every owner that complains, there is probably 1000's of them that don't have the issue. It is something just something to be mindful of. I would worried about the GS wheel though. It just me That is a big safety risk.
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12-27-2018, 12:18 PM
#130
Melting Slicks
But again, my information was accurate regardless. I showed you proof - where's yours? Let's hope someone can post data for ALL the years - Im going to guess (and Im saying GUESS) that 3LT was purchased more from 2014 to 2018 vs the other packages... Would love to know if my guess is accurate.
12-27-2018, 12:25 PM
#131
Racer
On the subject of Z51 vs 2LT, I was actually had my heart set on Z51 because of the awesome hardware included. But after researching reports on pros & cons of Z51 thoroughly on CF, consensus is that non-Z51 is good enough for a road cruiser. Is it ever.
12-27-2018, 01:00 PM
#132
My apologies for going off the the board on this topic but I keep cars a long time and would be interested in preventative measures to preserve glue on leather dash. If anyone has link with good advice, please post or send me a PM.
On the subject of Z51 vs 2LT, I was actually had my heart set on Z51 because of the awesome hardware included. But after researching reports on pros & cons of Z51 thoroughly on CF, consensus is that non-Z51 is good enough for a road cruiser. Is it ever.
On the subject of Z51 vs 2LT, I was actually had my heart set on Z51 because of the awesome hardware included. But after researching reports on pros & cons of Z51 thoroughly on CF, consensus is that non-Z51 is good enough for a road cruiser. Is it ever.
12-27-2018, 01:36 PM
#133
Race Director
But again, my information was accurate regardless. I showed you proof - where's yours? Let's hope someone can post data for ALL the years - Im going to guess (and Im saying GUESS) that 3LT was purchased more from 2014 to 2018 vs the other packages... Would love to know if my guess is accurate.
For the Stingray Coupe, the top trim package is the 1LT, chosen by over half of buyers with 1,753 (57.1%) vs 782 for 2LT (25.4%), and 543 for 3LT (17.7%).
https://www.corvetteblogger.com/2018...te-model-year/
For 2017 the 2LT package was the most popular:
https://www.corvettemuseum.org/wp-co...HWC-UPDATE.pdf
For 2016, the 2LT package was the most popular, followed by 1LT, then 3LT last:
http://www.macmulkincorvette.com/cor...ction-numbers/
For 2015, the most popular package was 2LT, followed by 3LT, followed by 1LT
https://www.corvetteblogger.com/2015...on-statistics/
So it appears that 2014 was the only year that 3LT was the most popular and as time went on it shifted more towards 2LT and then 1LT being most popular.
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12-27-2018, 01:42 PM
#134
Here is some data about 2018 from Corvette Blogger:
From this link:
https://www.corvetteblogger.com/2018...te-model-year/
For 2017 the 2LT package was the most popular:
https://www.corvettemuseum.org/wp-co...HWC-UPDATE.pdf
For 2016, the 2LT package was the most popular, followed by 1LT, then 3LT last:
http://www.macmulkincorvette.com/cor...ction-numbers/
For 2015, the most popular package was 2LT, followed by 3LT, followed by 1LT
https://www.corvetteblogger.com/2015...on-statistics/
So it appears that 2014 was the only year that 3LT was the most popular and as time went on it shifted more towards 2LT and then 1LT being most popular.
From this link:
https://www.corvetteblogger.com/2018...te-model-year/
For 2017 the 2LT package was the most popular:
https://www.corvettemuseum.org/wp-co...HWC-UPDATE.pdf
For 2016, the 2LT package was the most popular, followed by 1LT, then 3LT last:
http://www.macmulkincorvette.com/cor...ction-numbers/
For 2015, the most popular package was 2LT, followed by 3LT, followed by 1LT
https://www.corvetteblogger.com/2015...on-statistics/
So it appears that 2014 was the only year that 3LT was the most popular and as time went on it shifted more towards 2LT and then 1LT being most popular.
Last edited by MMD; 12-27-2018 at 01:42 PM.
12-27-2018, 01:45 PM
#135
Melting Slicks
Here is some data about 2018 from Corvette Blogger:
From this link:
https://www.corvetteblogger.com/2018...te-model-year/
For 2017 the 2LT package was the most popular:
https://www.corvettemuseum.org/wp-co...HWC-UPDATE.pdf
For 2016, the 2LT package was the most popular, followed by 1LT, then 3LT last:
http://www.macmulkincorvette.com/cor...ction-numbers/
For 2015, the most popular package was 2LT, followed by 3LT, followed by 1LT
https://www.corvetteblogger.com/2015...on-statistics/
So it appears that 2014 was the only year that 3LT was the most popular and as time went on it shifted more towards 2LT and then 1LT being most popular.
From this link:
https://www.corvetteblogger.com/2018...te-model-year/
For 2017 the 2LT package was the most popular:
https://www.corvettemuseum.org/wp-co...HWC-UPDATE.pdf
For 2016, the 2LT package was the most popular, followed by 1LT, then 3LT last:
http://www.macmulkincorvette.com/cor...ction-numbers/
For 2015, the most popular package was 2LT, followed by 3LT, followed by 1LT
https://www.corvetteblogger.com/2015...on-statistics/
So it appears that 2014 was the only year that 3LT was the most popular and as time went on it shifted more towards 2LT and then 1LT being most popular.
12-27-2018, 01:46 PM
#136
I would also think that first year buyers are bought by the corvette enthusiast. As the years goes by, the more casual or less deep pocket are in the market.
12-27-2018, 01:48 PM
#137
Race Director
I was just using the data from the links in the easiest way to post them and they all posted separate totals for the LT packages from the LZ packages, but I agree that including the 1LZ, 2LZ, 3LZ in the total is a more true representation.
12-27-2018, 04:14 PM
#138
f MSRP tooPatman - usually I agree with you - but today your just being a d**k. Grow up pal. I never said you were cheap, or an idiot (well today I am but just because of your post)... Respect is earned - not requested. Id respect you if you said, hey, I know a 3LT is the top heap of the pile, but either I didn't want one or couldn't afford one, or my wife just said no... That's totally cool with me - but when MORONS go on about how a 1LT or 2LT is BETTER, you get ZERO respect. Notice I said "BETTER"...you keep saying "the extra stuff I dont want".. (that's not the argument - no one can argue what you want) Im talking BETTER. Cause whether you like it or not, a bigger salary is BETTER, a bigger house is BETTER, and guess what...a 3LT is BETTER. No one (except maybe you) says mediocre is better, a less optioned car is better, a smaller house is better. So stop arguing and move on - cause the 3LT owners dont care what options you have - you guys are the only ones bitching...which also leads me to believe you DO regret getting a 1LT, otherwise you wouldn't care what I, Joe or anyone said...
12-27-2018, 04:48 PM
#139
Race Director
12-27-2018, 05:03 PM
#140
What in your opinion make the 2LT that much better of a car? Is it the HUD / 1 extra speaker PDR( only if tracking) Power seats (No one adjust their seat every time they drive their car) or free cargo cover? Don't see mush difference from the 1LT to 2LT other than more issues with electronics 5 years down the road. Now 3LT has the better material (Leather). Please don't suggest the options you prefer as we all have different taste and budgets. The gentlemen ask what would be a better buy a SR or Z51 not what you like and dislike. I have come to notice on this forum everyone wants everyone else to get what they like about a Vett.. I LOVE my 1LT GS. Did you buy your car to resale? If so BAD investment. Who cares about resale. If you are buying to resale your opinion is pointless.
Thanks for letting us get the car of our dreams not the car of your dreams.
Thanks for letting us get the car of our dreams not the car of your dreams.
