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Old 01-05-2019, 11:28 AM
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" C7s Aren't Selling"

it's winter, and the 2019 is the sixth year for the C7.... so typical for the situation.
Who came up with this breaking story... MSNBC? Are the Russians to blame ?

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C7's arn't selling? Another way of looking at it is that GM just makes to damn many.
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The downturn in sales happens with almost every generation of Corvette when they get 4-5 years into their respective body styles....Time for Chevrolet to drop the C7 & introduce the C8 or do a freshening of the C7 while we wait for the C8
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" C7s Aren't Selling"

it's winter, and the 2019 is the sixth year for the C7.... so typical for the situation.
Who came up with this breaking story... MSNBC? Are the Russians to blame ?

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Originally Posted by Mike Mercury
" C7s Aren't Selling"

it's winter, and the 2019 is the sixth year for the C7.... so typical for the situation.
Who came up with this breaking story... MSNBC? Are the Russians to blame ?

..or just ANOTHER lie.

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They are for me, just bought one last summer.
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The downturn in sales happens with almost every generation of Corvette when they get 4-5 years into their respective body styles....Time for Chevrolet to drop the C7 & introduce the C8 or do a freshening of the C7 while we wait for the C8
Yup. Every model year since 2014 has seen a decline in sales, capping 2018 with only (roughly) 9,700 built and even those have not all been sold

Compare that to MY 2014 with 37,288 built

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The fact is save cosmetics and engine performance enhancements virtually no one needs, today's Corvette isn't much different from the one we bought in 12-2013. Put them under a car cover, you can't tell one from the other. Always the big rush for a new series, dealers doing stupid stuff like MSRP+ pricing, then the inevitable roll downhill of demand. The used market starts to populate. And many early adopters like us will wait for the next new model. See no value in trading a perfectly fine 2014 to get a 2019 GS. And the Z06 has no appeal for us at all. Who needs an aero kit and 650hp for the drive to Starbuck's? We are patiently waiting in the line as always. No matter where the engine resides. Unless the C7 successor is $150K, then the 2014 Silver/Red Convertible will be our last GM hurrah. No downside there. It is a great car and way off the fun meter.

Who knows? The neighbors Tesla Model S is pretty sexy. Maybe we go quietly into the good night.


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That's nice, but I will let GM worry about it.
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C7's arn't selling? Another way of looking at it is that GM just makes to damn many.
Every C7 made by GM is ordered by somebody, either a customer or a dealer. If there are too many, it's the dealers' fault for ordering too many.

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Not just Corvette. To many cars being produced
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Every C7 made by GM is ordered by somebody, either a customer or a dealer. If there are too many, it's the dealers' fault for ordering too many.
Correct and basically what I stated, GM allows dealers to order (allocations) too many resulting in a tremendous amount of cars left over on dealer lots at year end resulting in negative press and huge price reductions.
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Same story for every C series. No new here and C7's are still being ordered and purchased.
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Truer word may have been spoken, but I’m dubious. Porsche has figured out this simple equation but Chevy/ GM hasn’t.
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Originally Posted by KenHorse
Yup. Every model year since 2014 has seen a decline in sales, capping 2018 with only (roughly) 9,700 built and even those have not all been sold

Compare that to MY 2014 with 37,288 built
I agree with you in general, but your comparison is apples and oranges. 2018 was a truncated model year due to work at the plant and the ZR1 introduced early as a 2019 model, so GM ended all '18 Corvette production early and switched to '19.

"In what was one of the shortest model years, a total of 9,686 Corvettes were produced. Production started June 5, 2017 and ends January 28, 2018. The plant was down for three months, making the 2018 model year approximately 5 months." - CorvetteMuseum.org
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Originally Posted by Mike Mercury
" C7s Aren't Selling"

it's winter, and the 2019 is the sixth year for the C7.... so typical for the situation.
Who came up with this breaking story... MSNBC? Are the Russians to blame ?

they probably have a video of a mustang peeing on a corvette too.
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C7's arn't selling? Another way of looking at it is that GM just makes to damn many.
Hmm, they only make what someone orders! GM does not make Corvettes for stock!

If you mean dealers are ordering too many - perhaps. But dealers are privately owned.

Just reading a 954 page book about Ferrari by Luca Dal Monte. The Forward is by Luca di Montezempla, the Ferrari Pres. He says Enzo was a Marrketing Genius. He quotes an incident when gasoline was very expensive and they were hiding cars at the factory so visitors would see the excess inventory.

And American visited and said, “Commendatore, I would like to buy a Ferrari.” Ferrari replied, “Yes, of course. But we have many requests...I’ll do what I can, but iI’m afraid that you will have to wait several months!”

Luca said that is because a Ferrari must be desired!

A Corvette is not a Ferrari! And despite what a few C8 posters think who peg the price at, $169,000 - it cannot be!

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When I got back to the office, called that vendor and got the minimum order, way more than I wanted! It had a cartoon picture of a welder with “Mean Green Machine.” When they finally came in gave two to our Division Pres and said you can send one to Bob! Got to let the boss take the credit!

About two weeks later the phone rang and all I hear is "Jerry, this is Bob." Had to try to recall who Bob could be. He then said thanks for the hat. Then he told me when he is watching football games he always wears the hat for whatever team for who he's rooting. Thought strange for a Corporate Senior VP!

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Originally Posted by JerryU
Hmm,they only make with someone orders! GM does not make Corvettes for stock!
If you meandealet’s areordering too many,perhaps. But they are privately owned.
Just reading a 954 page book about Ferrari by Luca Dal Monte. The Forward is by Luca di Montezempla, the Ferrari Pres. He says Enzo was a Marrketing Genius. He quotes an incident when gasoline was very expensive and they were hiding cars so visitors would see the excess inventory. And American visited and said, “Commendatore, I would like to buy a Ferrari.” Ferrari replye, “Yes, of course. But we have many requests...I’ll do what I can, but iI’m afraid that you will have to wait several months!”
Luca said that is because a Ferrari must be desired!
A Corvette is not a Ferrari! And despite what a few C8 posters think who peg the price at, $169,000 - it can not be!
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Correct and basically what I stated, GM allows dealers to order (allocations) too many resulting in a tremendous amount of cars left over on dealer lots at year end resulting in negative press and huge price reductions.
You must have missed my second post directly above. Typically, the harder something is to obtain, the more it's desired.
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You must have missed my second post directly above. Typically, the harder something is to obtain, the more it's desired.
Yep, was on my Treadmill and trying to put in a long sidebar after I sent that message!

But as my side bar states, I agree the demand is inversely proportional to the supply!

GM does have incentives for distributors to buy when things are slow and ones to help they sell what they bought!

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But yeah, the band plays on, this is what happens with every generation of Corvette for 70 years.
I was unaware of 70 years of Corvette production? Those four missing years must be worth a mint!!

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