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Why are Vette's still push rod and plastic?

Old 01-18-2019, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by FLEXjs
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There??? LOL, LOL
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Old 01-18-2019, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by FLEXjs
There's no requirement to start a new thread every day.
Apparently there is!

(answer to OP - composite is generally lighter than steel)
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Originally Posted by KenHorse
Apparently there is!

(answer to OP - composite is generally lighter than steel)
True so why don't more companies use the same plastic, SMC or whatever] it is? Also, comments are not required if you don't like post. Thanks!

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Old 01-18-2019, 09:13 PM
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As for the "plastic", see Automotive Composites: Mass Reduction for Mass Production which even features the C7.
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OHC's wouldn't fit under a low slug hood like the Vette's. What I love about the LT4 that they can still cram an SC under there. Couldn't do that with OHC's.
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I once read a long time ago that there was a motor called a 'hemi cammer' which was some kinda OHV V8 with two timing chains or something...

and it was too good. It beat everybody so they banned it.
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An old adage "If it ain't broke, don't fix it, comes to mind.
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Originally Posted by V Vette
True so why don't more companies use the same plastic, SMC or whatever] it is? ...
Many manufacturers ARE using SMC (or similar) for a variety of body panels. For example, the Lincoln MKS deck lid is SMC, The Acura NSX has SMC trunk, front and rear quarter panels. The Jeep Wrangler has a SMC roof. Most bumper covers are some sort of SMC material. The Corvette has been ahead of the curve on the use of such materials, and is continuing to lead as more parts are made of carbon fiber. This trend will continue to increase not only on the Corvette, but across the automotive industry.
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Old 01-18-2019, 10:48 PM
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The main reason for the "plastic" body panels is for weight savings. If the vette was made with standard sheet metal panels, it wouldn't be the light weight beast that it is.

Chevy isn't the only one still using pushrods...all those hemis running around are still OHV configurations. Pushrod setups work well.
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Old 01-19-2019, 09:12 AM
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Well if Corvettes were electric and all carbon fiber what do you think the price would be 200 thousand or more ????? Wayne
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Originally Posted by Kingtal0n
I once read a long time ago that there was a motor called a 'hemi cammer' which was some kinda OHV V8 with two timing chains or something...

and it was too good. It beat everybody so they banned it.
Ford had a cammer as well. Motors are very large. Hell a regular 426 hemi is referred to as an elephant.

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Originally Posted by V Vette
Ok you Vette head experts, why in 2019 do Vette's still have a push rod engine and bodies still plastic (or some variance of plastic)? Thanks
Pushrod V8 is world-class in power density in small packagaging..

Lookup a photo of the ford coyote motor on an engine stand next to ls1 or ls7 or ls3
Old 01-19-2019, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by mammoth713
Lookup a photo of the ford coyote motor on an engine stand next to ls1 or ls7 or ls3
wow.....

https://www.lsxmag.com/tech-stories/...-building-ls3/


Old 01-19-2019, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by mammoth713
Pushrod V8 is world-class in power density in small packagaging..

Lookup a photo of the ford coyote motor on an engine stand next to ls1 or ls7 or ls3
Thanks all... Love my Vettes!
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Originally Posted by FLEXjs
And the clear winner is the LS3:
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Originally Posted by mammoth713
Pushrod V8 is world-class in power density in small packagaging..

Lookup a photo of the ford coyote motor on an engine stand next to ls1 or ls7 or ls3
Like this photo?


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Originally Posted by C6_Racer_X
Like this photo?

Yup that's the one

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Old 01-19-2019, 01:27 PM
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Old 01-19-2019, 01:32 PM
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I always laugh when people say - Why doesn't the Vette (or pick your car) have a modern DOHC engine? Well, the first DOHC car was the 1912 Peugeot which won the French Grand Prix at Dieppe,
http://theoldmotor.com/?p=62241.

The discovery of this photo prompted us to search out other Peugeot photos and construction details, which will show you this brilliant dohc, four-valve four-cylinder engine designed by Boillot-Goux-Zuccarelli or “Les Charlatans” as they were called. Boillot and Goux were both racing drivers and Paolo Zuccarelli was a very talented practical engineer-mechanic. This engine that they created in 1912, established the dohc four-valve layout that is still in use to this day.
Sure, the first production OHV engine is slightly older but not by much, 1904. They're both old designs.

In 1898, Detroit bicycle manufacturer Walter Lorenzo Marr built a motor-trike with a one-cylinder OHV engine with push rods for both exhaust and intake. In 1900, David Buick hired Marr as chief engineer at the Buick Auto-Vim and Power Company in Detroit, where he worked until 1902. Marr's engine employed pushrod-actuated rocker arms, which in turn pushed valves parallel to the pistons. Marr left Buick briefly to start his own automobile company in 1902, the Marr Auto-Car, and made a handful of cars with overhead valve engines, before coming back to Buick in 1904. The OHV engine was patented in 1902 (awarded 1904) by Buick's second chief engineer Eugene Richard, at the Buick Manufacturing Company, precursor to the Buick Motor Company. The world's first production overhead valve internal combustion engine was put into the first production Buick automobile, the 1904 Model B, which used a 2-cylinder Flat twin engine, with 2 valves in each head. The engine was designed by Marr and David Buick.

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Beautiful Vettes, you have good taste!
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