V Vette

Im getting the AS3/+ non RF tires this weekend.. Best option IF you get a flat? Slime, compressor, tow, etc? Thanks

Foosh

Best option, get the runflats. There's no difference in ride quality or noise. I know, because I switch RF and non-RF sets back and forth twice a year. The ZP version of AS3+ was not available when I purchased 2+ years ago.

It always amazes me that because Goodyear Super Sport RFs on the C6 sucked a decade ago, people still assume all RFs suck today. The technology now is not even close to the same today, and the sidewall of RF and non-RF are the same. There is an inner band on today's Michelin ZPs that only comes into play at ZP.

Would you compare today's computers or smart phones to the versions available 10 years ago?

Oh4GTO

I went to non RF but winter tires. The ride difference is very different. So much so that I just ordered non-RF Super Sports for the summer. Have patches and pump in the trunk.

mschuyler

I have a compressor and a flat kit in the trunk along with a couple of tools, and the AAA phone number in my wallet. I figure if I can't manage to fix it myself it gets towed on a flatbed.

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Bondojohn

If i’m Not mistaken the Michelin AS3 is a
Allseaon “RUN-FLAT”

Corgidog1

I like the security of having run flats and not having to worry about flats which slime/compressor etc. may or may not fix.

Foosh

Non-ZP PS AS3+ tires are available in narrow-body (C7 base and Z51) sizes. I have them. Non-ZPs are not produced in wide-body (GS/Z06/ZR1) sizes. The basis for my comparison is running PSS ZPs in the summer and AS3+ non-ZPs in the winter. The ride quality and noise is the same in all but cold temps.

I prefer the ZPs, but they were not available when I purchased the AS3+ more than 2 years ago. When it's time to replace them, I'm going ZP.

I think there are some flawed comparisons being made here having to do with cold vs hot weather. If you compare the PSS RF to any all season tire, ZP or not, in cold weather, the all season tire is going to have a softer ride. That's because summer max performance tires get rock hard in cold weather. Non runflat PSS tires are also going to be rock hard in cold weather.

It has nothing to do with runflat technology. It's differences in temperature and the affect of temp on the different rubber compounds.

In driving them back-to-back in temps above 60ºF or so, ride quality is the same. If you drive an AS3+ runflat and the same tire as a non-runflat back-to-back at the same temp, you won't be able to tell the difference. The same is true of RF and NRF PSS tires in hot weather.

V Vette

Thanks all for the input. I decided on the AS3 plus as many forum members suggested them. Im doing the slime/air compressor thing too. The good news is that I wont get the annoying wheel hobble noise... I'll report back after a few hundred miles about ride quality (daily driver).

Foosh

Sometimes slime works, sometimes not. Good luck!

PatternDayTrader

If your going to carry a mini compressor then you might as well throw a plug kit in there somewhere. Its not difficult to repair a nail hole if you have a plug kit.

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speed4tu

Careful with the slime and the TPMS units. Also that stuff gets all over the wheel as well.

Foosh

It may not be difficult technically, if you manage to stay alive on the side of a busy freeway in an era when half the drivers are texting instead of looking ahead. However, it's often not easy and sometimes impossible to do with the tire on the car.

I can't understand why anyone would choose a non-ZP when an equally comfortable and grippy ZP is available. It makes zero sense.

I've done it dozens of times in the safety of my garage or driveway, but I will never attempt a highway roadside repair these days if one of my non-ZPs goes flat. I'll get a safe distance from the car and call a flatbed.

PatternDayTrader

Well yeah that is a problem ….

The fronts are easy, Just crank the wheel so you can access the hole, the rears are more difficult since you are basically guaranteed to have to lay on the ground.
Ya do what you have to do I guess; that's how I see it.

Foosh

Or you can just purchase ZPs and make it easy on yourself, perhaps even life-saving, with no loss of performance or comfort.

As I've said repeatedly, the only reason I purchased non-ZP AS3+ tires is that ZPs weren't available 2.5 years ago, and I wanted to drive year-round. I'll probably retire them early after this cold weather season, and purchase a new set of ZPs.

PatternDayTrader

Whats the price difference ?

Foosh

About $200 per set of 4 for the narrow-body. Non-ZP all seasons aren't available for the wide-body.

I've already had two PSS replaced free of charge under my tire/wheel policy, but have gotten lucky so far with the non-ZP AS3+s.

PatternDayTrader

Well that's not insignificant.

Foosh

If that's significant, you probably should be driving a Kia.

PatternDayTrader

Lol … It counts for something and could be why the OP made the decision he made. Personally I don't like run flat tires and would not buy them even if they were the same price.

4thC4at60

I've been driving Corvettes a long time - and a lot of miles..... I once had to change a tire on a busy highway in the mud and snow.... it was 17 degrees - it was in 1998, how do I remember? It was two weeks after my heart attack...!

Today, I'm an old man - 77 - NEVER again will I be caught out like that... I'm with Foosh: why would anyone, unless tracking the car, have anything other than RF tires on a car these days? No brainer.

And we spend $50K - $140K for these things.... what's an extra $200 for tires $50 a tire? Yes, it is insignificant - and I'm on a fixed income.