Who has bent rims?
#21
Race Director
Drove my son's 2017 Z06 up to Las Vegas and back. A 390 mile round trip. Two wheels cracked. I drive that same trip quite often in my Stingray and have never bent, or cracked a wheel. Ray has 18 and 19 inch.
It's bad enough that GM installs cheap wheels on the car, but not owning up to the issue is distrustful and immoral. It's rather expensive for owners of these cars to replace the wheels. An expense they absolutely shouldn't have to bear.
It's bad enough that GM installs cheap wheels on the car, but not owning up to the issue is distrustful and immoral. It's rather expensive for owners of these cars to replace the wheels. An expense they absolutely shouldn't have to bear.
Curious, because I have a 2017 Grandsport and have never cracked a wheel so wondering what to look for or perhaps expect at some point?
#22
Team Owner
just a few
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...n-lawsuit.html
(search is your friend, it's a well known issue)
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...n-lawsuit.html
(search is your friend, it's a well known issue)
#23
Team Owner
btw- I've owned a '15 Z51, '17 GS and now a '19 Z06, and not 1 wheel problem. And all 3 were/are driven in the NY/NJ area where the pot holes are measured with yard sticks.
(I'm not saying the problem doesn't exist, as clearly people are having problems, just saying it's not on every car)
(I'm not saying the problem doesn't exist, as clearly people are having problems, just saying it's not on every car)
Last edited by Thunder22; 05-12-2019 at 09:46 AM.
#24
Race Director
btw- I've owned a '15 Z51, '17 GS and now a '19 Z06, and not 1 wheel problem. And all 3 were/are driven in the NY/NJ area where the pot holes are measured with yard sticks.
(I'm not saying the problem doesn't exist, as clearly people are having problems, just saying it's not on every car)
(I'm not saying the problem doesn't exist, as clearly people are having problems, just saying it's not on every car)
What I am saying is there's thousands upon thousands of GS/Z06 owners out there who haven't had a bent/cracked wheel. And seems from post on this forum that those who have and are experiencing bent/cracked wheels have had multiple issues, some having cracked/bent 7 or 8 wheels. I've run over minor potholes and and hit an area where I-295 transitions from highway to bridge at around 85mph and thought "what the hell have I done" yet to my surprise didn't damage any wheels.
The good news is that seems this issue is finally going to be properly investigated as a result of the lawsuit and safety concerns and outcome is going to be very interesting and welcomed. Kind of reminds me of the Toyota Tacoma frame rust out recall/settlement of years ago.
#25
Team Owner
I agree and is the source of my confusion. AGAIN, AS I STATED IN ANOTHER THREAD, I'M NOT SAYING THERE ISN'T A PROBLEM AS YOU DON'T NEED TO BE AN ENGINEER TO CONCLUDE AT A GLANCE THAT THE DESIGN OF THESE WHEELS ALONG WITH THE RUN-FLAT TIRES MAKE THEM VERY PRONE TO DAMAGE. HP WHEELS OF THIS DESIGN NEED TO BE AND SHOULD BE FORGED.
What I am saying is there's thousands upon thousands of GS/Z06 owners out there who haven't had a bent/cracked wheel. And seems from post on this forum that those who have and are experiencing bent/cracked wheels have had multiple issues, some having cracked/bent 7 or 8 wheels. I've run over minor potholes and and hit an area where I-295 transitions from highway to bridge at around 85mph and thought "what the hell have I done" yet to my surprise didn't damage any wheels.
The good news is that seems this issue is finally going to be properly investigated as a result of the lawsuit and safety concerns and outcome is going to be very interesting and welcomed. Kind of reminds me of the Toyota Tacoma frame rust out recall/settlement of years ago.
What I am saying is there's thousands upon thousands of GS/Z06 owners out there who haven't had a bent/cracked wheel. And seems from post on this forum that those who have and are experiencing bent/cracked wheels have had multiple issues, some having cracked/bent 7 or 8 wheels. I've run over minor potholes and and hit an area where I-295 transitions from highway to bridge at around 85mph and thought "what the hell have I done" yet to my surprise didn't damage any wheels.
The good news is that seems this issue is finally going to be properly investigated as a result of the lawsuit and safety concerns and outcome is going to be very interesting and welcomed. Kind of reminds me of the Toyota Tacoma frame rust out recall/settlement of years ago.
My last reply wasn't directed at you, it was to the OP, sorry for the confusion.
That being said, I agree with you, it's very odd that it's a relatively small sample size compared to the owner base. I said this earlier as well - I drive in NY/NJ where the potholes are measured with a yard-stick and I've accidentally hit a couple where I thought "ugh, that's going to break something" as the BANG was bone rattling, and yet, nothing, no damage.
One thing to note - I had machine faced wheels on the '15 Z51 and the '17 GS, not sure if that's a factor.
I've also asked repeatedly on here if the issues are with a specific model wheel, maybe we should start a poll to see?
Last edited by Thunder22; 05-12-2019 at 10:40 AM.
#27
Instructor
I would be curious to know if the majority of bent/cracked wheel complaints come from the midwest and northeast due to the potholes. I am not hearing any of these issues here in SC, albeit our roads here are far from perfect. Regardless, GM better step up and take care of this. They have already alienated a bunch of folks on the issues of the A8 transmission.
#28
Melting Slicks
Knock on wood but no issues on my 2016 Z51, (yet). I'm curious how many owners have given up on the GM rims altogether and switched to aftermarket?
#30
Pro
Porsche puts 20inch wheels on the 911s, and they do not have the same issues.
They do not use run flats, but give you a repair kit
It does not seem that they have the same issues.
I don't think that forged is the answer as much as Stronger is the answer.
And the migration to low profile tires for the aesthetics is a decision that should be re-evaluated.
They do not use run flats, but give you a repair kit
It does not seem that they have the same issues.
I don't think that forged is the answer as much as Stronger is the answer.
And the migration to low profile tires for the aesthetics is a decision that should be re-evaluated.
#31
Moderator
WTF! I'm about to sign the papers on a 2019 GS! They asked about wheel insurance, and I'm thinking what another scam to get money...although i did get the extended bumper to bumper (good idea?).
Now I'm thinking what a scam to sell cars with defective wheels and then charge you additional "insurance" on them! What kind of BS is that?
I'm calling the dealer tomorrow and telling him I'm not signing unless they include the warranty, or put new wheels on.
I'm so pissed that I'm about to drop 60 on my dream car that has known defects. Obviously not as pissed as you current owners are with these issues.
Thanks for that post DDP! I'll reply if I get anywhere with that discussion tomorrow. If not, I'm going to get a used Z51 for way less, and that #2 dealer can @#$% off.
Now I'm thinking what a scam to sell cars with defective wheels and then charge you additional "insurance" on them! What kind of BS is that?
I'm calling the dealer tomorrow and telling him I'm not signing unless they include the warranty, or put new wheels on.
I'm so pissed that I'm about to drop 60 on my dream car that has known defects. Obviously not as pissed as you current owners are with these issues.
Thanks for that post DDP! I'll reply if I get anywhere with that discussion tomorrow. If not, I'm going to get a used Z51 for way less, and that #2 dealer can @#$% off.
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#32
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Joe, I'm curious, during your round trip to Vegas when and how did you realize both wheels had been cracked? Were both cracked during the same incident (pothole/bump etc). Or was there no particular incident at all and at some point did you just start to notice a vibration or shimmy then realizing wheels had cracked?
Curious, because I have a 2017 Grandsport and have never cracked a wheel so wondering what to look for or perhaps expect at some point?
Curious, because I have a 2017 Grandsport and have never cracked a wheel so wondering what to look for or perhaps expect at some point?
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#33
Race Director
Good question. I started to feel a slight rhythmic bumping. It was very little. At first I just thought that it was just the pavement on the road. I then entered an area of new surfaced pavement and still felt it. The next morning when I turned the car on I checked the tire pressure within the driver information center (I'm OCD about tire pressure and this a normal procedure for me every day) I noticed two tires were down to 26 and 27 PSI. They were 30 all around when we left on the trip the day before. When I got back to Havasu I went down to discount tires and they dismounted the tires. Sure enough there were cracks in the two wheels with the pressure on the downside. I had been driving the car regularly for about week before we left without issue. It must have occurred on the way up to Vegas. They are just normal roads without any irregularities that should have cracked a rim. Normal bumps in the road here and there. Like I stated in my original post I have made that trip a number of times with my Stingray. And with the Stingray I maintain the tire pressure at 35 psi.
#34
Le Mans Master
Sucks not being able to trust your rims on a trip.It's real Bull ****!
Would like to attend a GTLM Race.Park in the Corral.Maybe take a couple laps...
What about the 3 plus hour ride home in the dark.Hit one hole,The party's over.
Never been to Carsile Pa..All Corvettes.Will i break a rim?
Souldn't have to think like this after spending 75k
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#35
Race Director
Good idea.What would be even better is nationwide.We read it here,But what is the overall odds of failing a rim.
Sucks not being able to trust your rims on a trip.It's real Bull ****!
Would like to attend a GTLM Race.Park in the Corral.Maybe take a couple laps...
What about the 3 plus hour ride home in the dark.Hit one hole,The party's over.
Never been to Carsile Pa..All Corvettes.Will i break a rim?
Souldn't have to think like this after spending 75k
Sucks not being able to trust your rims on a trip.It's real Bull ****!
Would like to attend a GTLM Race.Park in the Corral.Maybe take a couple laps...
What about the 3 plus hour ride home in the dark.Hit one hole,The party's over.
Never been to Carsile Pa..All Corvettes.Will i break a rim?
Souldn't have to think like this after spending 75k
#36
Le Mans Master
I'll be Praying that my Rims make it back to:
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#37
Melting Slicks
Thanks Pal Maybe my son can bring the extra wheels and follow me down in the truck
I'll be Praying that my Rims make it back to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhGbWCH6IPE
I'll be Praying that my Rims make it back to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhGbWCH6IPE
Rich
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12K miles on my 15Z with several track days on the stock wheels (hitting the rumble strips) and no bent wheels. The Charlotte area doesn't have a lot of pot holes but there are some and some of those can't be avoided. However, the wheels are fine and going strong.
Bill
Bill
#39
Drifting
Am I correct to assume that the "bent rim" problems seem to be happening only with the larger wheels on the Z06 and Grand Sport Corvettes? I don't see to many people with the non-Z51 Stingray cars (such as mine) mentioning anything about the issue. Oddly, I did purchase the "wheel/tire warranty" when I bought the car new - since I have read comments about other Corvettes having that problem. Of course, not knowing that much about the different trim levels & packages at the time, it seemed like a no-brainer to spend the extra money.
The farthest I have gone from home is about three hours - last fall - and now I am really hesitant to take a long trip somewhere. Yikes! Even with a Stingray, I suppose there is still a chance that it could happen with my car.
The farthest I have gone from home is about three hours - last fall - and now I am really hesitant to take a long trip somewhere. Yikes! Even with a Stingray, I suppose there is still a chance that it could happen with my car.
#40
Team Owner
I think people are over reacting to this now. Do you worry about the transmission falling out? Engine exploding? Steering wheel falling off?
Just drive the car.
Just drive the car.
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