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Old 06-10-2019, 05:18 PM
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I had hopes the new paint shop was going to address the orange peel and peeling fascia issues, but not from here and what I've seen on lots. I even saw a '19 on display at an auto show that had OP and paint was starting to pop off.
Wouldn't you think they would have chosen an issue free C7 for car show display?
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Old 06-10-2019, 05:21 PM
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Old 06-10-2019, 05:21 PM
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I had a paint peeling problem on my Torch Red 2016 Z51. Convertible...The paint was peeling from underneath the passenger side spoiler...It was OUT of warranty....I took pictures of the peeling and sent them to Mary Barra..the very next day someone from her office called me and asked me to bring it to a dealer which I did...they confirmed the problem and the following week I was informed they would send a new painted bumper ...The paint matched perfectly and they covered it even though it was 5 mo's out of the 3/36...One week later I received a $1000 voucher for anything I wanted to buy from any Chevy Parts Dept. for my trouble.....
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Old 06-10-2019, 05:27 PM
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I was at the Corvette Bash this year and their 2019 Z06 car they were displaying had the chips around the front wheel vent that has shown up on my 2016 and 2018 Z06. I pointed them out and they had a painter from the plant talk to me and this ******* told me that this was the first time the paint shop had heard of this. The proof was staring him right in the face. What a bunch of liars. I am getting the C8 and if I have paint problems like I have had with my last two then I am done with Corvette.
I think you are too emotional regarding the paint issue. ( I am not trolling, NO insult intended, and I do not want to debate) I understand, and totally agree that as an owner you are in the right on this issue, but its just a paint issue. Eventually after driving the car for 10-20K miles stone chips will also appear and you will forget about it all. Just my opinion.
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Old 06-10-2019, 05:29 PM
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A lot of auto manufacturers have paint issue still. My VW also sent out a service bulletin about paint edges peeling off by the tail lights.

Paint is so hard to deal with as a coating.

Its NOT just Chevy, trust me.
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Old 06-10-2019, 05:33 PM
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First as a former automotive assembly paint manager I will try and explain what I think is happening. My guess is that that panel comes from a vendor. Part of the vendors responsibility is to spray an adhesive film on the panel so that the paint sticks to the panel. To me it looks like there is either some sort of consistent contamination in that area of the mold or a problem with rubbing in what ever shipping fixture the panels are transported in in prior to assembly. Then again it could be mechanical abrasion in the body shop assembly. All of the above are about impossible to see in the paint shop prior to paint application.
As I said earlier, it is a paint adhesion problem. Very evident just by the way the paint has buckled on newly painted cars. The fact that GM wonít admit nor fix it is just utterly disgraceful.
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Old 06-10-2019, 05:34 PM
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2019 Z06. Was hoping it wouldn't happen. I've noticed it's almost always on the driver's side.
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Aren't we glad GM redid the facility to make things better!

Being that high a proportion, all on different color runs, is nothing short of nauseating and unbelievable if not actually seen. GM should take a close look at my wife's new Hyundai sometime and see how to do it.
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Old 06-10-2019, 06:39 PM
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As I said earlier, it is a paint adhesion problem. Very evident just by the way the paint has buckled on newly painted cars. The fact that GM wonít admit nor fix it is just utterly disgraceful.
They admit it.... thereís a TSB for fixing it via repaint and use of new adhesion promoter in the affected areas.

My gripe is why are new paint shop cars still doing this? Why... because as mentioned above, itís a mold release issue. GM needs to work with the bumper supplier to fix it.
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Old 06-10-2019, 06:40 PM
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Had it in the same spot on my 19 Z. Dealer fixed it prior to delivery and it looks perfect now but I think it is body panels rubbing together. I don't think the paint is the issue, it is when they put the panels on the car after they've been painted the rubbing causes that paint to peel/crack. If the paint isn't totally cured when they put the panels on I could also see the paint from the bumper cover sticking to the paint on the quarter panel. Then when a panel moves the paint will tear off of one or the other.

My bumper cover in that corner now sticks up about 1/16" compared to the quarter panel and headlight. If you try to push it flush it rubs badly on the quarter so I'm leaving it alone until I can figure out if there is some kind of an adjustment to be made on the way the bumper cover is mounted. The driver's side is flush and no rubbing between those panels.
I agree with your analogy. Seems like panels will rub together and cause the paint failure. I also wonder of the material used for the panels is more prone to expansion and contraction than we think. Thus, if not fit perfectly at the plant, the problem will present itself over time.

Then when the cars are transported from the factory, the rubbing happens.

Another thought, how many corrections are caught and corrected by Museum Delivery methods?
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The car I saw today would not have the panels rub at all. Not close enough. Unless someone was sitting on the bumper and then someone else pushing the other panel up and down I don't think it was rubbing. Plenty of cars have tight or tighter panels than this so I think others have the right of it. Vendor or whatever shop pumping out the covers isn't coating certain areas well with that adhesion promoter before the paint shop hits em.

Probably cheaper for GM to let it slide and fix the minority of owners who care than fix it all for the last 2 months of production.
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Old 06-10-2019, 09:28 PM
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One would think that a car being built for the better part of 6 years would show improvement in process, not degradation. I was going to order a 2019 since most of the known issues should have been fixed this late in the cycle but seeing this with the paint and panel joints, I don't think I will. I had a '16 that had the close joints but no paint issues and my '14 has been flawless. I wonder if the C8 will have these same panel fit/paint issues? Looks like it will be a high probability.
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How in the hell do cars like these get through QC or is the damage occurring during shipping? GM spends millions on a new paint facility and still turns out copies of their "halo vehicle" that look like these? Very sad.
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This is pathetic.... unfortunately my 14' has some serious issues on the passenger side of the car, I can't get my service manager to call me back....

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How in the hell do cars like these get through QC or is the damage occurring during shipping? GM spends millions on a new paint facility and still turns out copies of their "halo vehicle" that look like these? Very sad.
If they really did spend $400 million on a paint facility, and the cars still look like this, then they are just plain stupid.
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Old 06-10-2019, 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by kratedisease View Post
I think you are too emotional regarding the paint issue. ( I am not trolling, NO insult intended, and I do not want to debate) I understand, and totally agree that as an owner you are in the right on this issue, but its just a paint issue. Eventually after driving the car for 10-20K miles stone chips will also appear and you will forget about it all. Just my opinion.
These are not stone chips. This is paint chipping off panels that GM does not fix. If it happened to you twice with two $100,000.00 + Corvettes you might be a little pissed. Just my opinion.
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How in the hell do cars like these get through QC or is the damage occurring during shipping? GM spends millions on a new paint facility and still turns out copies of their "halo vehicle" that look like these? Very sad.
It takes time for the paint to come loose... probably not happening by the QC stage.
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My 2017 Grand Sport had this problem right off the showroom floor. When I went back, every single Corvette on the lot had the same issue.

My 2019 Z06 doesn't have this issue, but it does have something new: There's evidence of a small amount of paint protection film wedged between the fender and bumper where the paint typically tears.

So far it seems to be working. No wrinkles or tears.
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Originally Posted by Tool Hoarder View Post
They admit it.... there’s a TSB for fixing it via repaint and use of new adhesion promoter in the affected areas.

My gripe is why are new paint shop cars still doing this? Why... because as mentioned above, it’s a mold release issue. GM needs to work with the bumper supplier to fix it.
THE MOLD RELEASE ISSUE. This is the correct answer. This was hashed over on the forum about a year ago. GM knows it and apparently hasn't rectified the issue yet regarding the mold release.
#17-NA-355 Front and / or rear fascia peeling Nov 13 2017
Here is a comprehensive post regarding the paint issue with the new paint shop, etc.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-stingray.html
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Originally Posted by Krenath View Post
My 2017 Grand Sport had this problem right off the showroom floor. When I went back, every single Corvette on the lot had the same issue.

My 2019 Z06 doesn't have this issue, but it does have something new: There's evidence of a small amount of paint protection film wedged between the fender and bumper where the paint typically tears.

So far it seems to be working. No wrinkles or tears.
Looks like according to that TSB attached below that's the final step in the repair for peeling. Dealer may have seen it and fixed it on that car before sale.
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