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NRB C7 @ ATCO Raceway this weekend....11.92 @ 119

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Old 09-30-2013, 10:26 AM
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The C7 should be ~ 100 lbs heavier than a C6 from what I´ve read.
And I think that´s base. Z51 adds at least another 50 if not more.
Old 09-30-2013, 10:27 AM
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Obviously, if this was a real time and the driver was a CF member, don't you think we would have seen the time slip by now?
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I wonder if those early adopters heading to the drag strip know the C7 has no-lift-shift now? I.e. launch the car floor it and hold your foot on the floor the entire time. Should be able to power shift the car w/o getting into the limiter.
Old 09-30-2013, 01:06 PM
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Total speculation / stab in the dark here...

What if: while the Tonawanda plant was/is getting ramped up the LT1 was/is being built at the Performance Build Center?

Could hand building them squeak a few more ponies? GM would only lose to admit to this because a) everyone would want the 'hand built' engine and b) it would look bad on their standard manufacturing. So mum would be the word....

There was speculation that the manual tranny Grand sport coupes were producing more power because they were hand built. Curious if this is the same?

They certainly should have the capacity after building the Z06, ZR1, 427, and GS manual coupe engines. They built just over 5000 in 2013 for reference.
Old 09-30-2013, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Racer
11.92 @ 119 Atco
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Old 09-30-2013, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by VIN666
Either the Vette is lighter than we think, or more powerful...
But something doesn´t add up here.
Please stop using the drag calculators, there are so may variables that can effect a 1/4 time that are not accounted for in the calculators.

For comparison my '94 Camaro w/ a 396 LT4 that was putting down 405 rwhp at the time ran the exact same 11.92 @ 119 with a 1.85 60' time. That car was ~ 3450lb w/o driver.

Why are people so suprised the GM spec is 12.0 @ 119 and since the C5 came out people have always been able to better the GM spec at the drag strip in good conditions.
Old 09-30-2013, 02:33 PM
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Which matches up with the calculator´s trap speed...
What´s your complaint again?
Old 09-30-2013, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by travisnd
I wonder if those early adopters heading to the drag strip know the C7 has no-lift-shift now? I.e. launch the car floor it and hold your foot on the floor the entire time. Should be able to power shift the car w/o getting into the limiter.

I never had an issue in my 2010 5th gen SS Camaro. I never lifted the throttle while drag racing and I never had problems hitting the limiter during shifting.

One just have to be able to quickly and correctly shift a manual trans car.
Old 09-30-2013, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Z0Sick6
If the cars horsepower is SAE (certified), how can that be? I thought all cars now go through this so there is no more of this type of stuff.

Think 2003 E55 AMG (469 hp but really was about 510)

2003-2004 Mustang Cobra (390 hp)... cars were dynoing 385-395 RWHP!

I am all for it if its underrated but can it be? The 2014 C7 is SAE certified.
Too many people use outdated rules of thumbs to come up with the "actual" hp of a car. As you say, SAE is what it is. And you can't back into a number. You can guess at it with various external data points, but it is just that...a guess.
Old 09-30-2013, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Z0Sick6
Not sure the DA, but Atco (NJ) and MIR (Maryland) are some of the fastest tracks in the country. Also, the humidity was low and temps were in the 50s.
Sounds like the air quality was better than SAE correction factors, meaning it was making more than the advertised power
Old 09-30-2013, 07:13 PM
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Didnt gm state the 1/4 mile times at like 12.4 @ 119 months ago ?
Old 09-30-2013, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by mushroom281
Didnt gm state the 1/4 mile times at like 12.4 @ 119 months ago ?
no their claim is 12.0 at 119 and 0-60 3.8
Old 10-01-2013, 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by PRE-Z06
Sounds like the air quality was better than SAE correction factors, meaning it was making more than the advertised power
yup, there isn't a "correction factor" for putting down power in good air. it is what it is and the car could easily run this time in "minshaft" DA air

my old LPE ZR-1 picks up 20 RWHP at 50 deg and cool dry air has a very noticeable affect on the HP and performance even by my butt dyno.

driver makes all the difference in the world.

Hey Ranger, you gotz onna deez thangs yet???

time to dip 11s. now it's been done. great to see these cars rolling in time for the good fall air.

Maple Grove anyone??? it's this weekend and supposed to be nice!!
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Originally Posted by truth.b
That thread contains nothing.
Old 10-01-2013, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by PRE-Z06
Sounds like the air quality was better than SAE correction factors, meaning it was making more than the advertised power
Wait....different air, DA makes more/less power and running on a well prepped track makes a difference? BULLSH*T!!!!!!! Those C7's will run 11.5's on street tires in Florida during a hurricane.
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This is great!

A handful of C7s now in the possession of their end users with a few that made it to the track and the car has done high 11's at nearly 120 MPH a week after delivery began. The naysayers can take that and chew on it for a while. It will only get better. Looks like the base C7 should be capable of low 11s with tune and tires. This is fun.

Hats off to the GM engineers and others who developed this car. They have a real winner in the pipeline now.
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So anyone on the forum witness this? Any chatter about it on another forum? Any video, pics, slip?

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Old 10-01-2013, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by drmustang
This is great!

A handful of C7s now in the possession of their end users with a few that made it to the track and the car has done high 11's at nearly 120 MPH a week after delivery began. The naysayers can take that and chew on it for a while. It will only get better. Looks like the base C7 should be capable of low 11s with tune and tires. This is fun.

Hats off to the GM engineers and others who developed this car. They have a real winner in the pipeline now.
Can you provide a link to the one that ran high 11's? The only thread I find has more questions than answers as to whether someone ran it or not.
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Originally Posted by drmustang
This is great!

A handful of C7s now in the possession of their end users with a few that made it to the track and the car has done high 11's at nearly 120 MPH a week after delivery began. The naysayers can take that and chew on it for a while. It will only get better. Looks like the base C7 should be capable of low 11s with tune and tires. This is fun.

Hats off to the GM engineers and others who developed this car. They have a real winner in the pipeline now.
You haven't by chance seen many LS3 times have you?
Old 10-01-2013, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Outlaw2013
You haven't by chance seen many LS3 times have you?
LS3's have been out for 6 model years. These are the first times that we're seeing for the C7 LT1. It would be foolish to think they won't get faster and be faster than LS3's.
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