TPMS Sensors necessary on track wheels?
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TPMS Sensors necessary on track wheels?
Are TPMS sensors necessary for the C7 to operate correctly? Obviously I know without them they won't display tire pressure. I used to own a ZL1 that I tracked frequently but never had TPMS sensors in my track wheels and never had an issue other than a light coming on displaying an issue with the sensor. However I've heard on previous generation Corvettes if their aren't TPMS sensors the car will not operate properly. I'm about to go to the track this Sunday and currently my track wheel and tire set up does not have the sensors.
*EDIT*
After some research I found out that you can basically tell the car you know it doesn't have TPMS sensors and you're ok with it. However it doesn't look like it was tested yet in this article. Anyone have any information on this?
"If the car keeps finding some tires and won’t work, we put in an Easter egg to disable all interactions with TPMS. You stop, set the park brake, push the TCS button 6 times in 5 seconds. It will register that you were successful by blinking the TCS light for about 3-4 seconds. You have to do this every key cycle."
http://www.carsillustrated.com/secre...d-c7-corvette/
*EDIT*
After some research I found out that you can basically tell the car you know it doesn't have TPMS sensors and you're ok with it. However it doesn't look like it was tested yet in this article. Anyone have any information on this?
"If the car keeps finding some tires and won’t work, we put in an Easter egg to disable all interactions with TPMS. You stop, set the park brake, push the TCS button 6 times in 5 seconds. It will register that you were successful by blinking the TCS light for about 3-4 seconds. You have to do this every key cycle."
http://www.carsillustrated.com/secre...d-c7-corvette/
Last edited by BaylorCorvette; 03-15-2016 at 09:17 PM.
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Are TPMS sensors necessary for the C7 to operate correctly? Obviously I know without them they won't display tire pressure. I used to own a ZL1 that I tracked frequently but never had TPMS sensors in my track wheels and never had an issue other than a light coming on displaying an issue with the sensor. However I've heard on previous generation Corvettes if their aren't TPMS sensors the car will not operate properly. I'm about to go to the track this Sunday and currently my track wheel and tire set up does not have the sensors.
*EDIT*
After some research I found out that you can basically tell the car you know it doesn't have TPMS sensors and you're ok with it. However it doesn't look like it was tested yet in this article. Anyone have any information on this?
"If the car keeps finding some tires and won’t work, we put in an Easter egg to disable all interactions with TPMS. You stop, set the park brake, push the TCS button 6 times in 5 seconds. It will register that you were successful by blinking the TCS light for about 3-4 seconds. You have to do this every key cycle."
http://www.carsillustrated.com/secre...d-c7-corvette/
*EDIT*
After some research I found out that you can basically tell the car you know it doesn't have TPMS sensors and you're ok with it. However it doesn't look like it was tested yet in this article. Anyone have any information on this?
"If the car keeps finding some tires and won’t work, we put in an Easter egg to disable all interactions with TPMS. You stop, set the park brake, push the TCS button 6 times in 5 seconds. It will register that you were successful by blinking the TCS light for about 3-4 seconds. You have to do this every key cycle."
http://www.carsillustrated.com/secre...d-c7-corvette/
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The sensors don't have to be in the wheels. The system reacts just like the C5 system did. It gives you a warning and all you have to do is hit reset. Nothing else needs to be done and when you reinstall wheels with sensors they are automatically recognized and the car stops giving you warning signals.
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Last edited by Bill Dearborn; 06-03-2016 at 04:31 PM.
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The sensors don't have to be in the wheels. The system reacts just like the C5 system did. It gives you a warning and all you have to do is hit reset. Nothing else needs to be done and when you reinstall wheels with sensors they are automatically recognized and the car stops giving you warning signals.
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The sensors don't have to be in the wheels. The system reacts just like the C5 system did. It gives you a warning and all you have to do is hit reset. Nothing else needs to be done and when you reinstall wheels with sensors they are automatically recognized and the car stops giving you warning signals.
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I now have a set of TPMS sensors for my track wheels/tires, they auto relearn (or I can reset them manually) when I switch between track and street set ups.
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The sensors don't have to be in the wheels. The system reacts just like the C5 system did. It gives you a warning and all you have to do is hit reset. Nothing else needs to be done and when you reinstall wheels with sensors they are automatically recognized and the car stops giving you warning signals.
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I’ve got a 2017 Z06 and bought a set of takeoff Grand Sport wheels for track wheels, and a set of takeoff TPMS sensors. I did a 2 day HPDE in October and a 1 day HPDE in November. The next to last session of the day I had a TPMS warning come on at the end of the session, so I ended my session and went into the pits. Scrolled to the tire pressure screen in the DIC and it was the right rear not reading. Checked it’s pressure and it was fine. Figured the battery was bad.
Went out for the last session, and had no issues going into PTM Sport 1. Partway through the session the sensor was picked back up by the car. Then went out again near the end of the session. Not a big deal. Bad battery I’m sure......guess that is what you get for buying takeoffs.
So, the day after the event I washed the car to get all the track off the car. Went out of town for Thanksgiving for a week. I hadn’t swapped my brake pads and wheels back to my street setup, but took the car out for a drive and got an Onstar email saying my Stabilitrak and Antilock brakes were not working and needed service immediately. Car would not let me go into PTM mode.
Swapped pads and wheels this morning. Went for a drive. TPMS sensors synced to the car and after that it would let me go into PTM mode.
So, was it because 1 sensor wasn’t reading that it kept me from going into PTM mode? Doesn’t make sense because I was able to for my last track session with the senor not reading. Was thinking of getting some light smaller diameter track wheels down the road, and I know others don’t use sensors on their track wheels, but don’t want to run into the same problem I just ran into not being able to get into PTM mode without them.
Any ideas?
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The C7 works fine if all sensors are working or you have no sensors working. It does have issues if you only have some sensors working. The drag racing guys see this when you have stock front wheels with sensors and rear drag wheels without them.
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As far as I know, the TPMS is a warning with NO other control functions. It doesn't tellthe car to change anything. it's just a light.
IF you are having other issues, well, you have other issues. It's not related to TPMS.
Post hoc ergo propter hoc. (Latin: "after this, therefore because of this") is a logical fallacy that states "Since event Y followed event X, event Y must have been caused by event X." It is often shortened simply to post hoc fallacy.
Oh, and if I'm not mistaken, the drag guys are having isses because of the much different diameter of the drag tires. A different rolling diameter will cause all sorts of systems to have a hissy fit.
IF you are having other issues, well, you have other issues. It's not related to TPMS.
Post hoc ergo propter hoc. (Latin: "after this, therefore because of this") is a logical fallacy that states "Since event Y followed event X, event Y must have been caused by event X." It is often shortened simply to post hoc fallacy.
Oh, and if I'm not mistaken, the drag guys are having isses because of the much different diameter of the drag tires. A different rolling diameter will cause all sorts of systems to have a hissy fit.
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I think I have 1 more day for these tires, the fronts anyway, the rears are better. But, doesn't do me much good if I can't get into PTM mode due to this 1 bad sensor.
I'll have to search again, but I thought I saw a post about being able to override the TPMS sensors by hitting the center button on the mode selector X amount of times. I assume this will allow the car into PTM mode.
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A little off topic, but my $.02. On my C7 Stingray, I had the sensors put into the track wheels, and I'm glad I did. Was at Road America where I somehow picked up a nail in my rear passenger tire. If not for the TPMS warning, I would not have known until it was too late to avoid any damage. After that experience, I'd never run track wheels without the system in place.