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Old 09-22-2017, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by c5racr1
Mirrors are not connected through the seat. I have a mop seat that I use for track days and the mirrors work fine. On another note, don't fool the sensor into thinking the factory seat is installed. You do not want the air bag in the steering wheel to function if you are wearing a harness in a race seat. Do a google search on that. It causes more problems.
Are you driving a C7? As my mirrors do not work with my stock seat removed. I know of others with this issue. So I wonder, if your driving a C7, what is different?
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Old 09-22-2017, 03:54 PM
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2016 vs 2017 maybe? I know for sure my 2016 Z06 mirrors do not work as soon as the seat is disconnected.
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I have a 2017 GS. My mirrors stop working as soon as the stock seat harness on the driver side is unplugged.

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Old 09-22-2017, 09:30 PM
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I have a 1lt and I can assure you they work with my race seat.
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Originally Posted by c5racr1
I have a 1lt and I can assure you they work with my race seat.
I have a 2LT. I wonder if that is the difference? Anyone care to test for us. Unplug your driver seat harness and report back if your mirror controls stop. Please include trim.
Old 09-24-2017, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by rb185afm
I just live with the light. I don't even notice it. FYI, your side mirrors are connected through your stock seat. You won't be able to adjust your mirrors. So set them in a good spot before swapping the seat.
I have put in 2 racing seats in my 2015 Z06, 1LT , and have done nothing to the seat wiring other than disconnecting the connections.
Both my side mirrors work 100% normal. My car is the standard,non-
upgraded interior, and in fact the only option I purchased is the A8 transmission.
I do have a roll bar and 5 pt harness' for both seats (to keep the looks symmetrical)

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Old 09-24-2017, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by rb185afm
I have a 2LT. I wonder if that is the difference? Anyone care to test for us. Unplug your driver seat harness and report back if your mirror controls stop. Please include trim.
The 1LT does not include the memory package. The 2LT does have the memory package. That's the difference.

The memory package (at least in the C5) is controlled through the seat control module located under the seat.

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Is there any solution to the mirror and airbag problem? Is it possible to remove this module from the stock seat and leave it plugged under the race seat?
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Another bump as I’m about to dive into this myself.
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Sorry for not responding sooner. There is no way to accomplish this without completely ruining an OEM seat. The module(s) under the seat are not meant to be removed and put somewhere else. There is no way to code this because there is hardware in those modules necessary to power the mirrors. I spent considerable amount of time with a service manager who is a car nut and we couldnt find a way.
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Originally Posted by UnhandledException
Sorry for not responding sooner. There is no way to accomplish this without completely ruining an OEM seat. The module(s) under the seat are not meant to be removed and put somewhere else. There is no way to code this because there is hardware in those modules necessary to power the mirrors. I spent considerable amount of time with a service manager who is a car nut and we couldnt find a way.
ahhh this is such BS. Thanks chevy. Can’t even try and save 110lbs with some lightweight seats without ruining all mirror functions.
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ahhh this is such BS. Thanks chevy. Can’t even try and save 110lbs with some lightweight seats without ruining all mirror functions.
It's not just mirror. It's also airbag. And more importantly passenger side airbag. Not having driver's side OEM seat also completely breaks the passenger side airbag even if the seat on that side is left.

The one thing I concluded is this car is not designed to be modified in this fashion. While many cars have these airbag sensors and complex "modules", I think this is the only one where so many core functionality becomes completely broken if you change the seats. I know Porsche GT3/RS, BMW M3, Mclaren, all function fine with either very minimal to no coding. They all get impacted when you remove the seat, but there are ways to make them functional.

I am actually not surprised. Corvette never was a track rat car. It is a sports car that tries to compete in the luxury segment more than the hardcore enthusiast. It is much more of a 911 Turbo S competitor than GT3/RS. It never was, it never will be. They have to sell cars and the market for 911 Turbo is much bigger than the niche GT3 market.
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Originally Posted by UnhandledException
It's not just mirror. It's also airbag. And more importantly passenger side airbag. Not having driver's side OEM seat also completely breaks the passenger side airbag even if the seat on that side is left.

The one thing I concluded is this car is not designed to be modified in this fashion. While many cars have these airbag sensors and complex "modules", I think this is the only one where so many core functionality becomes completely broken if you change the seats. I know Porsche GT3/RS, BMW M3, Mclaren, all function fine with either very minimal to no coding. They all get impacted when you remove the seat, but there are ways to make them functional.

I am actually not surprised. Corvette never was a track rat car. It is a sports car that tries to compete in the luxury segment more than the hardcore enthusiast. It is much more of a 911 Turbo S competitor than GT3/RS. It never was, it never will be. They have to sell cars and the market for 911 Turbo is much bigger than the niche GT3 market.
SAD. Chevy should have little plug in eliminators like the superleggera lamborghinis came with when you put race seats in them.
Old 04-21-2020, 08:38 PM
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On this Camaro6 thread NickyRacerBoy claims that some engineer he was working with was able to defeat the airbag light etc. When I asked for more details he was vague and not so helpful:

https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showt...=473795&page=6
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Got my seat installed. Upside to having a 1LZ- My mirrors work fine

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Old 04-24-2020, 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by UnhandledException
It's not just mirror. It's also airbag. And more importantly passenger side airbag. Not having driver's side OEM seat also completely breaks the passenger side airbag even if the seat on that side is left.
Are you sure about the passenger side airbag? Below is a pic of the passenger seat airbag that deployed after a crash at Road Atlanta. You can see the memory buttons on the driver's door panel, so it's at least a 2LZ car. It was a side impact so the front air bag on the passenger side didn't deploy but it seems reasonable that since the seat bag deployed the one in the dash would have if the impact was frontal.

Link to thread detailing the accident....https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...d-atlanta.html


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Originally Posted by 96GS#007
Are you sure about the passenger side airbag? Below is a pic of the passenger seat airbag that deployed after a crash at Road Atlanta. You can see the memory buttons on the driver's door panel, so it's at least a 2LZ car. It was a side impact so the front air bag on the passenger side didn't deploy but it seems reasonable that since the seat bag deployed the one in the dash would have if the impact was frontal.

Link to thread detailing the accident....https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...d-atlanta.html

i think airbag deploys but it deploys at full force. The logic that senses the weight of the person and the location of the seat does not work. But i dont remember 100%. I think the airbag on drivers side does not work though (as in no deployment).
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Originally Posted by UnhandledException
i think airbag deploys but it deploys at full force. The logic that senses the weight of the person and the location of the seat does not work. But i dont remember 100%. I think the airbag on drivers side does not work though (as in no deployment).
That makes sense and totally agree regarding the driver's side.

I looked at some sort of plug and play device and reached the conclusion that while it might be possible, by the time you get another module to program (or rip apart the seat), plus simulate the multiple items that run through that module, and then actually convince a dealer to program it.....I'll just live with the red airbag light and dismiss the message at start-up Since I'm the only one that drives the car, the mirrors never get moved so it would have been a "nice to have".


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