M7 shifting 1st to 2nd issue
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M7 shifting 1st to 2nd issue
My GS has about 550 miles on it and every once in awhile while shifting from 1st to 2nd I find that the shifter sort of moves to the right. I need to then push left to get it to go into 2nd. This does not happen all the time. Just does not want to flow from 1 to 2 at times.
I tried looking on the forum and saw some replacing with MGW shifter. Not ready to make that type of change, just wondering if this is a shifting technique issue. Though I am pretty good with manual transmissions having driven for many years. This is the first one that did not seem to flow well and only happens between 1 & 2.
I tried looking on the forum and saw some replacing with MGW shifter. Not ready to make that type of change, just wondering if this is a shifting technique issue. Though I am pretty good with manual transmissions having driven for many years. This is the first one that did not seem to flow well and only happens between 1 & 2.
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My GS has about 550 miles on it and every once in awhile while shifting from 1st to 2nd I find that the shifter sort of moves to the right. I need to then push left to get it to go into 2nd. This does not happen all the time. Just does not want to flow from 1 to 2 at times.
I tried looking on the forum and saw some replacing with MGW shifter. Not ready to make that type of change, just wondering if this is a shifting technique issue. Though I am pretty good with manual transmissions having driven for many years. This is the first one that did not seem to flow well and only happens between 1 & 2.
I tried looking on the forum and saw some replacing with MGW shifter. Not ready to make that type of change, just wondering if this is a shifting technique issue. Though I am pretty good with manual transmissions having driven for many years. This is the first one that did not seem to flow well and only happens between 1 & 2.
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My GS has about 550 miles on it and every once in awhile while shifting from 1st to 2nd I find that the shifter sort of moves to the right. I need to then push left to get it to go into 2nd. This does not happen all the time. Just does not want to flow from 1 to 2 at times.
I tried looking on the forum and saw some replacing with MGW shifter. Not ready to make that type of change, just wondering if this is a shifting technique issue. Though I am pretty good with manual transmissions having driven for many years. This is the first one that did not seem to flow well and only happens between 1 & 2.
I tried looking on the forum and saw some replacing with MGW shifter. Not ready to make that type of change, just wondering if this is a shifting technique issue. Though I am pretty good with manual transmissions having driven for many years. This is the first one that did not seem to flow well and only happens between 1 & 2.
Transmission Messages
1-4 SHIFT
This message displays on a manual
transmission vehicle when you can
only shift from 1 (First) to 4 (Fourth)
instead of 1 (First) to 2 (Second).
Elmer
Last edited by eboggs_jkvl; 03-16-2017 at 11:06 AM. Reason: Added Owner's Manual quote
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Haha, you know maybe the CAGS is issue I have seen something about switching to skipping a gear or something and thought WTH does that mean.
Ok that is most likely the issue thanks for the clarification. This is my first Chevrolet vehicle and Corvette.
"Bypassing is mod #2" how do I do that?
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There are many threads on this issue...i failed trying to get GM and Tremec to fix the notchy and or grinding issue shifting from 1-2 especially in cold weather. I went the Lemon Law route and won my case....check arrives today or tomorrow for a few thousand to help. The car is still under warranty...they have settled for cash because they don't want the car back and don't have a fix. I bought my 2016 M7 Z51 last August when it was 85 out and no apparent grinding issues. My recommendation is to PM me for my attorney information....if we file enough of these claims, maybe GM will come up with a fix.
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There are many threads on this issue...i failed trying to get GM and Tremec to fix the notchy and or grinding issue shifting from 1-2 especially in cold weather. I went the Lemon Law route and won my case....check arrives today or tomorrow for a few thousand to help. The car is still under warranty...they have settled for cash because they don't want the car back and don't have a fix. I bought my 2016 M7 Z51 last August when it was 85 out and no apparent grinding issues. My recommendation is to PM me for my attorney information....if we file enough of these claims, maybe GM will come up with a fix.
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I'm sorry, but WTF? The OP can't tell if the car is broken or it's the CAGS system? Did you RTFM? (CAGS eliminator solves that...)
The MGW shifter is by far the best thing you could do for your enjoyment of the car. The stock shifter is vague, sloppy, and notchy. If you think the stock shifter is good, you don't get out much. (meaning you don't drive other cars. Miata, S2000, even a MINI Cooper have great shifters.)
Anyway, the MGW makes it much better. I have rarely said that something should come from the factory with that, but in this case, the GM engineers should look into it.
The MGW shifter is by far the best thing you could do for your enjoyment of the car. The stock shifter is vague, sloppy, and notchy. If you think the stock shifter is good, you don't get out much. (meaning you don't drive other cars. Miata, S2000, even a MINI Cooper have great shifters.)
Anyway, the MGW makes it much better. I have rarely said that something should come from the factory with that, but in this case, the GM engineers should look into it.
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The problem with that is most people aren't really bothered by the notchiness when the transmission is cold. After a half mile or so of driving it is gone and it is what it is. If the transmission fails to shift or is jammed in gear and can't be taken out of gear then that is a failure but a temporary condition that doesn't affect the durability or operation of the transmission isn't a failure.
Bill
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I think you would notice if you are going into 4th instead of 2nd.
There is a bit of technique for shifting the Tremec. I have only used this on 6 speeds from 1999 to 2013:
1st to 2nd have your palm on the right side of the shifter with thumb pointing up.
2nd to 3rd palm on top thumb pointing left.
3rd to 4th palm on left with thumb pointing down.
I did get grinding in my 2011 Camaro SS. The 13 ZL1 is much better. The notchy feel can be improved with an oil blend. I used Redline ATF and MTL.
There is a bit of technique for shifting the Tremec. I have only used this on 6 speeds from 1999 to 2013:
1st to 2nd have your palm on the right side of the shifter with thumb pointing up.
2nd to 3rd palm on top thumb pointing left.
3rd to 4th palm on left with thumb pointing down.
I did get grinding in my 2011 Camaro SS. The 13 ZL1 is much better. The notchy feel can be improved with an oil blend. I used Redline ATF and MTL.
Last edited by djnice; 04-07-2017 at 03:04 PM. Reason: typo
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Problems M7 1-2 gear
My GS has about 550 miles on it and every once in awhile while shifting from 1st to 2nd I find that the shifter sort of moves to the right. I need to then push left to get it to go into 2nd. This does not happen all the time. Just does not want to flow from 1 to 2 at times.
I tried looking on the forum and saw some replacing with MGW shifter. Not ready to make that type of change, just wondering if this is a shifting technique issue. Though I am pretty good with manual transmissions having driven for many years. This is the first one that did not seem to flow well and only happens between 1 & 2.
I tried looking on the forum and saw some replacing with MGW shifter. Not ready to make that type of change, just wondering if this is a shifting technique issue. Though I am pretty good with manual transmissions having driven for many years. This is the first one that did not seem to flow well and only happens between 1 & 2.
This issue you're highlighting happens BY DESIGN. First to Second transition on M7 is redirected to First to Fourth when the engine is warm and RPM is low. It is an operation designed to help the Corvette meet EPA standards
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Melting Slicks
After hearing that some have found the trans fluid to be low,I changed mine('17 Z51) at approx 1000 miles.
It was about 1/2 qt low and was very red/silver from the new gears breaking in.
Seems to be better.
The Tremec is known to be a bit notchy.
\db2
It was about 1/2 qt low and was very red/silver from the new gears breaking in.
Seems to be better.
The Tremec is known to be a bit notchy.
\db2
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