Oil change
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Oil change
2017 LT1. Normally I change my oil myself. The Chevy Dealer will be about $60. To change the oil which is only $20 more than self change, but the dealer records the change in my Vetts data base. Recomadations?
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I change my own oil, just keep your own records. Autozone has a killer deal on Mobil 1 right now (5 quarts plus a filter for $30), and Mobil has a great mail-in-rebate offer too ($17 back on 5 quarts + filer, limit 2). In the end, you're able to get 10 quarts of Mobil 1 5W-30 and 2 M1-113A filters for $26. That deal is unbeatable in my opinion!
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Change you own. Keep your receipts. I also buy my oil and filter on Amazon so that there is a third party electronic record of my having purchased it.
Maintain a log. I've got 12 cars (relax, not 12 Corvettes) and a sheet on my shop wall to keep track of what car got changed when, with what oil, etc. The more "paper trail" showing you did your own changes the better, if it ever winds up mattering.
Maintain a log. I've got 12 cars (relax, not 12 Corvettes) and a sheet on my shop wall to keep track of what car got changed when, with what oil, etc. The more "paper trail" showing you did your own changes the better, if it ever winds up mattering.
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Most Vettes only need to change oil once per year. For the extra couple dollars it isn't worth changing yourself. The dealer has the record and you don't need to keep and lose stuff.
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I have always changed my own oil... keep records and receipts; no problem.
Btw, the issue for many of us is NOT the cost at the dealer compared to self-changing (I never use my freebees), but knowing exactly how it is done. Your car, your choice. All the best.
Btw, the issue for many of us is NOT the cost at the dealer compared to self-changing (I never use my freebees), but knowing exactly how it is done. Your car, your choice. All the best.
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Bill, after reading your many cogent technical messages here, I'm surprised that you're not a self-changer. Nothing wrong with letting the dealer do it, of course, if you have a good one.
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It's not always about the money savings, it's about the time savings and knowing it's done properly, not done by the least experienced person working at the dealership. I've heard too many horror stories from oil changes done by dealerships. I'll do it myself as long as I'm physically able (at 48 years old I should have at least 30 more years of self oil changes ahead of me)
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oil change
I hear ya buddy, same here. Do it your self and know its done right and with the love of your OWN can in mind.... I don't want greasy hands on my wheel, or oil splattered on any parts underneath. Only I change the oil on my cars, with SK tools made in the good ole USA.
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Problem for folks is that the brand new Mobil 1 0-40 ESP is only available at Chevy dealers that have ordered it. This oil is in 2019's.
Many dealers do not yet have it, are not aware of it, have no idea what is going on with Corvettes, or mistake it for the previous 0-40 European Formula that has been available for about ten years, and which I used to put into my 2007 C6 Z06 (US delivered C6 Z06's came with 5-30 and European deliveries came with the previously mentioned 0-40 European formula. Some dealers have been put the old 0-40 into C7's, mistakenly thinking it is the new ESP oil.
The new oil is only presently available for oil changes done at a Chevrolet dealer, and is not available for retail purchase, supposedly until the Fall.
Many dealers do not yet have it, are not aware of it, have no idea what is going on with Corvettes, or mistake it for the previous 0-40 European Formula that has been available for about ten years, and which I used to put into my 2007 C6 Z06 (US delivered C6 Z06's came with 5-30 and European deliveries came with the previously mentioned 0-40 European formula. Some dealers have been put the old 0-40 into C7's, mistakenly thinking it is the new ESP oil.
The new oil is only presently available for oil changes done at a Chevrolet dealer, and is not available for retail purchase, supposedly until the Fall.
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I wonder what happens if an engine warranty claim is then made? GM won't wanna cover it so will the dealer be on the hook for the cost of the repairs? Or will they find a way to weasel out of it?
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Here are a few things to do:
1. Print the pages out of the owners manual regarding tightening the filter and torquing the drain plugs.
2. Don't let them over fill the Brake fluid reservoir. That is part of the oil change at the dealer and the "techs" that do oil changes don't know where the min/max lines are on the reservoir.
3. check to see if you are eligible for free oil changes.
4. Make sure the dealer fills with M1 5w30.
1. Print the pages out of the owners manual regarding tightening the filter and torquing the drain plugs.
2. Don't let them over fill the Brake fluid reservoir. That is part of the oil change at the dealer and the "techs" that do oil changes don't know where the min/max lines are on the reservoir.
3. check to see if you are eligible for free oil changes.
4. Make sure the dealer fills with M1 5w30.
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Here are a few things to do:
1. Print the pages out of the owners manual regarding tightening the filter and torquing the drain plugs.
2. Don't let them over fill the Brake fluid reservoir. That is part of the oil change at the dealer and the "techs" that do oil changes don't know where the min/max lines are on the reservoir.
3. check to see if you are eligible for free oil changes.
4. Make sure the dealer fills with M1 5w30
Wrong - that is the old oil. Use the new 0-40 ESP oil, not the old 0-40 European product. Not avail in at retail till the Fall.
1. Print the pages out of the owners manual regarding tightening the filter and torquing the drain plugs.
2. Don't let them over fill the Brake fluid reservoir. That is part of the oil change at the dealer and the "techs" that do oil changes don't know where the min/max lines are on the reservoir.
3. check to see if you are eligible for free oil changes.
4. Make sure the dealer fills with M1 5w30
Wrong - that is the old oil. Use the new 0-40 ESP oil, not the old 0-40 European product. Not avail in at retail till the Fall.
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Because the 0w40 ESP is not going to be sold in stores until the late summer/early fall (and given the slow rollout to dealers, I predict it might not even be available until later than that), I am now seriously considering using Mobil 1 5w30 ESP. It is also dexos2 certified just like the 0w40 ESP, and it has been available here in Canada for a long time now. And looking at the specifications, it's actually a better oil on paper, it has lower sulphated ash (0.6 vs 0.8) it has a higher HTHS (3.58 vs 3.53), it has a higher flash point (254C vs 234C) and it's Noack volatility number is an incredible 5.6%! (not sure what the number is for 0w40, however because Mobil 1 lists it's density as higher, that would mean it's Noack number would be higher too) So if I can't get my hands on the 0w40 in time for my next oil change, then I will use 5w30 ESP. I don't see a problem with warranty considering I'm still using the recommended viscosity for my car (5w30) and it has the dexos2 certification just like the 0w40 that they are now recommending.
Last edited by Patman; Apr 1, 2018 at 08:49 AM.
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There won't be a clear advantage for a casual driver to go to 0w40, only us track rats will benefit. It may very well be less expensive to follow the current owner's manual regarding 5w30/15w50 for track duty. It will likely be a year or more before supply>demand to drive prices to buyer enticement.
Further, one only needs to look at how Michelin has kept the promise of AS/ZP's for the GS and Z to determine if the stuff will really hit the shelves as scheduled. It will be a while until Wally World stocks it, and with the PREZ at war with AMAZON, there my not be a decent retail outlet price-wise.
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Further, one only needs to look at how Michelin has kept the promise of AS/ZP's for the GS and Z to determine if the stuff will really hit the shelves as scheduled. It will be a while until Wally World stocks it, and with the PREZ at war with AMAZON, there my not be a decent retail outlet price-wise.
But as I mentioned above, I'm also skeptical that it'll be available for retail sale when they say it will. The rollout on this new oil has been pathetic, most dealers still don't have this oil yet, even though it was promised for Feb 1st.
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Yup ANS THE fact that I'm 74 chasing hard on to 75 and the effort of getting these old bones down there under the car sitting on ramps just isn't worth it to me.Elmer
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