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Old 11-16-2018, 09:11 AM
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Default Good way to order E85 or good ethanol online?

I only have one resource within 30 mins with E85 and it’s often they are out. Very frustrating which is why I purchased 8 5 gallon VP race jugs. Curious if I can order and have shipped? I think I get hit with a tax correct if I do that? Can’t believe ethanol isn’t around more in Savannah GA AREA.

Anyone know how I can find this stuff easier?
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My big helper

Ethanol pump is slow slow slow
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You can order it and have it shipped in from Ignite Race fuels. We do it for our shop all the time. We get 55 gallon drums for dyno tuning. It will cost you though as shipping is quite expensive.

I would also assume you have a truck and if so get a 55 gallon drum, load it in the back and go to the gas station to fill it up. An engine hoist with a drum clamp will get it out of the truck bed easily. When we go endurance racing I have four 55 gallon drums of fuel loaded in my truck that we take. Use all of it over the course of an 9 hour race.

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If you check around you may find that a local race shop can add a barrel to their order for you and you'll save on shipping, but otherwise I agree with subieworx. Get a nice clean barrel and a pump.
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Where would I get a pump?
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Originally Posted by subieworx
You can order it and have it shipped in from Ignite Race fuels. We do it for our shop all the time. We get 55 gallon drums for dyno tuning. It will cost you though as shipping is quite expensive.

I would also assume you have a truck and if so get a 55 gallon drum, load it in the back and go to the gas station to fill it up. An engine hoist with a drum clamp will get it out of the truck bed easily. When we go endurance racing I have four 55 gallon drums of fuel loaded in my truck that we take. Use all of it over the course of an 9 hour race.
I thought about ordering me one of these:
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A 35 Gallon portable gas pump. Then also use my 8 VP gas jugs and load up at pump. **** it took me 20 mins to fill up 5 jugs the other day for some reason this pump I am at is slow. Problem is they are out often apparently EVERYONE goes there and grabs it.

I have a truck yes and a big tractor with front end loader so I can lift it out easy. Not a problem being out in the country I have plenty of BIG trucks and tractors, etc. I was just hoping it would be a little easier to get but sounds like I will just have to bite the bullet.

Car still makes insane power on 93 octane I just prefer to stay safer, although timing is pulled and soon when I get my precision wastegate on we can turn boost down for 93. Appreciate the help!!
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Originally Posted by sevinn
If you check around you may find that a local race shop can add a barrel to their order for you and you'll save on shipping, but otherwise I agree with subieworx. Get a nice clean barrel and a pump.
A regular fuel distributor (the guy that sells gas to gas stations) would be a good option as well. I buy VP methanol from my local fuel distributor.
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I had a long conversation with Jay @ Ignite Fuels. He has now absolutely terrified me about using E85 from the local pump.
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Originally Posted by Matthewstorm
I had a long conversation with Jay @ Ignite Fuels. He has now absolutely terrified me about using E85 from the local pump.
Imagine that... On a car without flex fuel, sure, or in a race application, otherwise he just sold to you.
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So, you don't think he was straight?
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So, you don't think he was straight?
$9-12/gallon of E85 from a 55 gallon drum, or $2.30 +/- at the pump. Yeah, pump has variation, and if you are tuned strictly for 85% you would have problems. Depends on the application, but if you run pump 85 with flex fuel and good tune, it will adjust for any variation. Otherwise all factory flex fuel cars would be f'd.

If you are running on the edge of the performance envelope it can help but on an otherwise stock engine with just a flex fuel sensor, it is a complete waste of money. Your money, do with it as you please.

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Well, I'm definitely not a race car. Food for thought. And I'm not into wasting money.
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Originally Posted by sstonebreaker
A regular fuel distributor (the guy that sells gas to gas stations) would be a good option as well. I buy VP methanol from my local fuel distributor.
I agree here I get a 55 gal drum also at one time just from the cost of it. Plus the fuel distributor come to my house with it & unloads it also for free. The guy here is a exxon dist... Buddy nice too see your helper looks like he is doing all the work..Robert

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We have pumps all over locally and I use it but I still have a drum of Ignite in my garage handy when I want to be on extra kill. Jay is a great guy to deal with too.
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Originally Posted by robert miller
I agree here I get a 55 gal drum also at one time just from the cost of it. Plus the fuel distributor come to my house with it & unloads it also for free. The guy here is a exxon dist... Buddy nice too see your helper looks like he is doing all the work..Robert
Darn right, Robert you have to train them early! Funny b/c he has seen so many youtube videos he knew all about F1X's and all he wanted for me to get was an F1X b/c it sounded so cool. So he was disappointed in my decision for such a boring sounding F1A-94 lmao. Uncool dad haha. Kid knows every super and hypercar out there specs you name it. I am lost! Forza Horizon 5 or something like that he just got for XBOX one it just came out he was using the Hoonigan twin turbo awd car kids these days have it so good!!

Sounds like I need to get in touch with a distributor is there a good way to do that? Not sure I can just ask a person at the gas station? Can I look online for local ones?

Ignite is also an option for when I want to go to the track or dyno, but for weekend driving not so sure it's worth the price. Car burns through ethanol now I literally see the needle MOVE
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Originally Posted by Detoxx03
We have pumps all over locally and I use it but I still have a drum of Ignite in my garage handy when I want to be on extra kill. Jay is a great guy to deal with too.
Those are insane numbers for a D1X! Wow. That's a sick ride!
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Originally Posted by fleming23
$9-12/gallon of E85 from a 55 gallon drum, or $2.30 +/- at the pump. Yeah, pump has variation, and if you are tuned strictly for 85% you would have problems. Depends on the application, but if you run pump 85 with flex fuel and good tune, it will adjust for any variation. Otherwise all factory flex fuel cars would be f'd.

If you are running on the edge of the performance envelope it can help but on an otherwise stock engine with just a flex fuel sensor, it is a complete waste of money. Your money, do with it as you please.
I agree. My mechanic runs pump E85 in his trans am. It's got a procharged LS3 making over 1000 hp to the rear wheels. He drives it pretty much daily and has had no fuel-related problems. Race grade E85 is like putting dry nitrogen in your tires - 99% of the time it's overkill.
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Originally Posted by Detoxx03
We have pumps all over locally and I use it but I still have a drum of Ignite in my garage handy when I want to be on extra kill. Jay is a great guy to deal with too.
Which Ignite did you get? Did you have it delivered?
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Originally Posted by C5-VERT
Those are insane numbers for a D1X! Wow. That's a sick ride!
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Which Ignite did you get? Did you have it delivered?
Red 114 and yes it was delivered.

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