keagan

Hey guys, wanted to know what current and upcoming production performance ca within its category should the Z06 handle or be concerned about? My thoughts would be the

GT3- worried
GTR- worried
Viper- close

Next Gen Shelby (GT350)- current Shelby has 662 even though its a muscle car, it's packing one hell of a punch right now.

rob62

same as the c-6' Z's competition.

Paulchristian

The C7 ZO6 will compete with the same cars the C6 ZO6 competed with.

My guess is that it will outclass the viper from a performance standpoint (as the C6 did). I think this C7 Z will also best the current GT-R around the track. I think the ZO6 vs 991 GT3 will be a drivers race with the edge going to the ZO6 because of the hp advantage. The 991 will be easier to drive fast though (as usual). The Mustang still has some serious growing up to do before it will do anything significant on a track

Having said the above, I believe there is a MONSTER in development by our friends at Nissan. Those Japanese are being very very quiet. I suspect the next GT-R will make the current one seem like a dinosaur...and that, my friends, is a scary thought...

Caddylac10

Same cars as C6 Z.

F430 - now 458
Gallardo - now new Cabera
McLaren 12c
Viper
GTR
Porsche GT2 - GT3 doesn't have the power. It will get smoked.

All 600 hp cars. Shoot, the C6 Z07 still beats all of them around many tracks. The C7 Z will
be king of that group.

OnPoint

For me? A well done C2 resto mod pushing 600 hp thru a modern LS driveline and SRT III chassis.

For the market broadly? Probably the same swath of machinery to which the previous one was compared.

Caddylac10

The C6 Z07 already beats the GT3 around the Ring and the ZR1 beats the Viper so why would you be worried about them? The GTR is a bunch of bull. They always use ringers and lie. It will be a competitor but the C7 Z will beat it. The Mustang won't touch it. It's not really sports car dynamically. It will be impressive but the new Camaro will handle it, let alone a Corvette.

keagan

That's a tough list of cars. Hopefully this beast takes care of them. You think it's based only around a track or at the strip as well?

JoesC5

The new Mercedes(code named C190) looks to be going after the 911 so I guess it too would be a competitor for the Z06. Smaller than the SLS GT AMG, with around 500 HP and priced around $100K.

keagan

What do they have planned for the new Camaro for it to take on that 662hp beast? I know the Camaro was performing better on the track but on the strip the ZL1 would lose wouldn't it? I'm not doubting the vette but just curious what the other manufacturers had up their sleeve knowing the Z on its way.

bigdog1250

While the new Z will put up a good fight, it's not going to best a McLaren.

C7pimp

It's early to tell, but I wouldn't be so sure about that. The base C7 is an outstanding car, and the only thing keeping it from beating the big boys is a bit of hp, not handling and driving dynamics.

The new Z06 is going to be amazing.

ALLANB

Originally Posted by Caddylac10 View Post

"Same cars as C6 Z.

F430 - now 458
Gallardo - now new Cabera
McLaren 12c
Viper
GTR
Porsche GT2 - GT3 doesn't have the power. It will get smoked. "

I don't think 300k cars new are competition. The average person don't buy a 458. But the z06 at around 100k is within range of lots more people not only the very rich. Heck after couple of years the z06 will be selling for a lot less than new. I paid way less than new for my 08 z06 in 2010. No matter how nice or how good the car is ,it will depreciate big time. But so do pretty much every car. Ferarris, Mercedes, Porsches..

The main competitors in the price range for domestic are the Viper with its 640 hp which should be quite a bit higher in price than Z06 more in line with a zr1. The gt500 not sure what the new 2015s will cost . They do have big power. But yeah are more a muscle car than a true world class sports car like the vette is .

German stuff well... New 911 turbos are way up there like double the price of a Z06 and putting out less power with likely similar weight.
Top Mercedes are also big money. SL63 is very nice but is also near double the money of the z06 and is more like 5xx some hp . SL65 well bigger money and still probably be bit less power than z06 .
Audi well they have the R8 big money of course too. Bmw well not sure what they have really not very knowledgeable on Bmw.

Italian stuff. New 458 are like 300k. New lambo similar.
English stuff not familiar with the English stuff . Jaguar seems a competitor for at least the normal base corvette , talking the new F model. Aston Martins are big money new.

Now if you put the c7 z06 against other used cars then it evens out the playing field more. I paid 50k for my 2007 SL55 and 78k for my 2007 911 turbo. Heck of a lot less than they cost new and both have low mileage but factory warranties are zip ,have extended on the
911 turbo and could put one on the SL55 but it would be very costly.
Likely 10k for a few year warranty aftermarket.

Vette brand new of course has its factory warranty and gm extended are pretty reasonable . And factory warranties are almost always better than aftermarket ones. Many of which are not worth the paper they are written on.

The new z06 if its kept to about 100 max full loaded will be an incredible car with really nothing new directly for completion.
GTR well they are pretty nice but not sure how close to 100k new they are these days.. We have 09 or so used around here for like 60 or 70 k.
Never driven in one or even ridden in one. I think they are fugly but they are still pretty cool cars being twin turbo and awd.
New NSX think is coming out shortly as well. Toyota has been very silent since it supercar twin turbo Supras in the 90s . Nissan and Infiniti don't have much with the 370 Z or whatever and the G37 or whatever Infiniti coupes. Top lexus is a joke like 300k or something stupid and not even that great looking.

They should stay pretty simple with the z06. And it weighing a 100 pounds more than the base car is not the end of the world . If you have 650 or 660 hp ,100 extra pounds means nothing. An extra 1000 pounds ok then you are talking. My SL55 has like 510 hp stock and weighs like 4300 pounds.
My 911 turbo has like 480 hp stock and weighs like 3400 pounds. You don't need to be a genius to figure out which is faster and by quite a bit. But good news is supercharged cars or turbo cars are both very easy to mod up and get a lot more power for fairly cheap.. if the engine is built strong and the rear end, transmission.. driveline..

I can be at 600 hp for grand or so in the SL55 and similar power for a couple grand in the 911 turbo. And easy bolt on mods. Tuning, supercharger pulley, bit of exhaust and air intake stuff.. No internal engine stuff they both have very strong engines and drivetrains.

I would have liked to see a 550 to 600 hp 7.0 litre or 7.4 litre in the new z06 . But a supercharged 6.2 is not so bad either. And sure there will be another 50 or 100 hp hiding in there that will be easy to release if you don't care about warranty.

I want that auto transmission. I want wider body with bigger tires. I would like side skirts and few other things that will make it look meaner than the base cars. I dont' need at least as standard a non power drivers seat that can be special order. I still want a comfortable car that is versatile not stripped of all its sound insulation.
The base cars are already very nice. Just add in a nice 650 hp or so engine. An nice 8 speed auto option. Big fenders and tires and really nothing much else has to be done to the car.

Go more exotic on a zr1 . Not on the z06.

NytmereZ

The Viper TA did infact beat the ZR1,(on the same crappy perrelli tires that the GTS rides on) for the people who choose to remember , and was 3 seconds faster then the ZR1, when they switched to the same tires, but the TA is coming in at 116k, still to much money, the Z06 should come in at 85k and should easily beat the TA viper.
If an ACR is introduced it will be close to 200k , just as nobody is buying 135k vipers, nobody is going to shell out almost 200k.
Z06's competition will be the same as it's always been , but don't compare it to 300k exotics, that is plain dumb, those cars are in a different universe.
I find it funny to see people compare exotics that most haven't even ever saw drive down a street to corvette, not taking anything away from corvette but regardless of performance its a mass produced car.

Lavender

The C6Z with Z07 already did....

Lavender

Last time I checked the ZR1 humiliated the "new" Viper...Ralph went haywire (hes an idiot anyway) and SRT build a new car which they DIDNT race against a ZR1 and claimed 0.08 of a sec victory?


:rof l: Good job..vs the past generation Corvette LOL.

G352C6

Current competitor for me would be the Porsche Cayenne GTS. Was really close to pulling the trigger today. Glad I didn't, because I am no. 2 on the list at my local dealer for the Z06.

Caddylac10

The strip matters but most of Corvette's acceleration issues are due to its transmission. Pretty much all of the Z06's competition has automated gear boxes and it really made the 0 - 60 and 1/4 mile time gaps look worse than the reality could have been.

The ZR1 could have easily been running consistent sub 11 second 1/4s with an appropriate gear box. It fell short because of technology but the power was certainly there.

The 8 speed will take of that and we'll finally get to see the Corvette maximize its acceleration.

Caddylac10

I'm not sure why you say that.

The ZR1 already beats the McLaren around 99% of tracks, even the Z06 has a faster Ring time. Having said that, it already bests the McLaren in track performance and this coming from the C6.

The only area where the McLaren out performs them is in acceleration and that's simply because the ZR1 had a stick, but the power is there. The 8 speed will solve that issue.

I honestly don't see where the McLaren will be superior at all. The C7 Z06's track performance is only going to increase over the C6, so that gap will widen even more.

Caddylac10

The price argument doesn't apply to the Corvette. Its performance is so high relative to its price that it realistically doesn't have any competition. Of course, Ferraris, McLarens and Lambos are positioned differently and have a much different image in the market place but they are every bit competitors.

The competition is clear. Comparisons to these competitors have already been made in large since the C6 was out so it's not new. No media outlet has ever compared the GT500 to the Z06 and they never will.

As soon as the Z06 launches you will see immediate comparisons to the cars I mentioned. Top 5 are: 458 Speciale, McLaren, Viper, Lambo Cabera, GTR Nismo.

raj

Good point but also keep in mind that a lot of the competition has more advantageous weight distributions due to mid- (or rear, in the case of the 911 variants) engine layouts and/or AWD. Those with DCT also have sophisticated launch control programs - case in point: the 991 GT3 with only 475 hp runs a 3.0 0-60 and a 11.2 1320', numbers that neither the C6 Z06 nor ZR1 could touch despite superior power-to-weight ratios. Power braking may be the only option with a traditional auto and it simply won't match the brutal launch of a DCT.

Regardless of what the Z06 gets compared against, it will hold its own on a track. Question is: how will it fare in a drag race where the new benchmarks are 3 second 0-60 and 11 second quarter mile barriers respectively. Ironically, this has been the Corvette's Achilles heel for the reasons mentioned above, and it remains to be seem whether the new Z06 gets the proper running gear to address this.