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Old 01-11-2014, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by sardeanie
Laugh at yourself fool. If you have info then spill it, if you not then you are just another "people in this thread".

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This made me lol.
Old 01-11-2014, 05:43 PM
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I'm betting on 87k base.
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Originally Posted by BMadden
The OP actually makes a lot of really good points. I was just thinking today that if they put the base price at around $90k(which might still be too low according to some of the speculation here), is it really going to be worth an extra $40k over a Z51? If the 620hp number is true, you'll easily be able to surpass that by slapping a supercharger on a Z51 at the cost of $6-9k and get upwards of 700hp by doing so. I realize there will be other improvements like bigger tires/wheels, more aggressive body, etc., but I just don't know if a $40k premium over a Z51 makes sense anymore. The Z06/ZR1 were huge upgrades over the base C6, but I think the C7 is already so good that it's going to be a tougher sell for the new Z06 at much higher price point.

Having said all of that, I can't wait to see the unveiling and I'm pretty sure it's going to be the baddest thing on display in Detroit next week.
With your post! But I think 100k plus. The low number sold will make it
harder to cut the price when the new improvments are going to cost them more to produce. GM will over produce the C7 and make the C7Z06 too much higher to afford for the average Joe.
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Originally Posted by C6Z06C6
LOL at the people in this thread come Monday. 75K for a Z28 and 79K for a Z06
Going be shocked at 100k plus the mark-up!
Old 01-11-2014, 06:14 PM
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I agree with the OP. I think he is dead on. Look at the new Viper. It is sitting on lots and not moving at all and I think it is a nice improvement over the last generation Viper.

For me the Z28 is more of a collector car or store bought race car than a car you would drive everyday. It doesn't even come with AC as standard equipment.

Z06 base will be less than 80K for sure.
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Originally Posted by tdelph
I agree with the OP. I think he is dead on. Look at the new Viper. It is sitting on lots and not moving at all and I think it is a nice improvement over the last generation Viper.

For me the Z28 is more of a collector car or store bought race car than a car you would drive everyday. It doesn't even come with AC as standard equipment.

Z06 base will be less than 80K for sure.
Hope your right. But I'm not seeing how unless it has no radio or anything but seats in it. One guess is as good as the next till we find out for sure.
Old 01-11-2014, 07:31 PM
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You cannot compare the Z28 to the Z06. The Z28 is a gimmick car made for collectors, there is absolutely no chance that anyone who is serious about tracking a car would choose a $75,000 Camaro that in way shape or form could keep up with a late-model Carbon package Z06 that could be had for less money.
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....and if the price is in the 80K neighborhood, watch prices of used C6ZR1s take a quick dump!
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Does anyone have or know where to find the sales figures for the ZR1 from 2009-2013? I'd be interested to know how many $100k+ Corvettes sold in that 5 year span.
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Originally Posted by Rock'n Blue 08
With your post! But I think 100k plus. The low number sold will make it
harder to cut the price when the new improvments are going to cost them more to produce. GM will over produce the C7 and make the C7Z06 too much higher to afford for the average Joe.
Since when can the average Joe afford a 60K base car, let alone a 100k one? Corvette pricing is well beyond what most will ever be able to afford in their life. Pricing for average man is irrelevant at this point. 80K or 90K makes no difference.

Yes, Corvettes are "more attainable" supercars but not affordable. The Z will still be the best supercar value on the planet, even at 100K. At some point, there has to be some give and take; all selfish wishes aside.
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Leave the political comments to Off Topic > Politics. They do not belong in other sub-forums. You know who you are. Your posts have been deleted.
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Originally Posted by BMadden
Does anyone have or know where to find the sales figures for the ZR1 from 2009-2013? I'd be interested to know how many $100k+ Corvettes sold in that 5 year span.

C6 numbers:

Total corvettes made - 215,123

Total base models - 154,438 - 71.8%

(Total Z51's - 54,600 + no. of GSs - 38.4%)

Total Grand Sports - 28,004 - 13.0%

Total Z06's - 27,997 - 13.0%

Total ZR1's - 4,684 - 2.2%


http://corvetteactioncenter.com/specs/c6/#.UoSl4uIRsoN


http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...post1585414708

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Originally Posted by Crossofiron
The best C6 Z06s were between 2011 and 2013.

Sorry for the guys that bought the earlier years but that is a fact.
Wonder what year you have

Glad you are happier paying more than the earlier models, guess by best you mean heavier
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I'm guessing base Z06 pricing will be surprising (low end), but that fully optioned ones will be surprising as well (high end)
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Originally Posted by BMadden
Does anyone have or know where to find the sales figures for the ZR1 from 2009-2013? I'd be interested to know how many $100k+ Corvettes sold in that 5 year span.
Here are the production numbers for the ZR1.
09---1415
10---1577
11----806
12----404
13----482
total-4684

They were selling quite well until the economy crashed.

In addition there were approximately 800 Z06's loaded out at around $100K.
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Originally Posted by 05dsom
C6 numbers:

Total corvettes made - 215,123

Total base models - 154,438 - 71.8%

(Total Z51's - 54,600 + no. of GSs - 38.4%)

Total Grand Sports - 28,004 - 13.0%

Total Z06's - 27,997 - 13.0%

Total ZR1's - 4,684 - 2.2%


http://corvetteactioncenter.com/specs/c6/#.UoSl4uIRsoN


http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...post1585414708

Thank you for this data.

The 2009 ZR1's base price was $103,000.

Less than 5000 of the 215,000 C6 Corvettes made were ZR1 models. More than 5 times as many Z06 models were sold than ZR1.

It's pretty clear GM will not sell this car at ZR1 prices. It can't if it wants to sell any more Z06's than ZR1's.
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Originally Posted by Skullbussa
Thank you for this data.

The 2009 ZR1's base price was $103,000.

Less than 5000 of the 215,000 C6 Corvettes made were ZR1 models. More than 5 times as many Z06 models were sold than ZR1.

It's pretty clear GM will not sell this car at ZR1 prices. It can't if it wants to sell any more Z06's than ZR1's.
Yes, but not a lot of 1zr's were made compared to the $10k optioned 3zr. Most were probably $120k+ MSRP

only 123 (3%) out of 3,350 on ZR1 registry were 1zr.

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Originally Posted by emejay
....and if the price is in the 80K neighborhood, watch prices of used C6ZR1s take a quick dump!
They already are. On Cars.com I see a 2010 with 2k miles for $69k. There are a bunch in the ~$75k range also.

That's a lot of car for the money!
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Originally Posted by Skullbussa
They already are. On Cars.com I see a 2010 with 2k miles for $69k. There are a bunch in the ~$75k range also.

That's a lot of car for the money!
So true! If you can't afford the new C7Z06, this car is waaaaaayyyy more than almost anyone on this forum could drive to it's full potential

A great time to be a buyer
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Originally Posted by 05dsom
C6 numbers:

Total corvettes made - 215,123

Total base models - 154,438 - 71.8%

(Total Z51's - 54,600 + no. of GSs - 38.4%)

Total Grand Sports - 28,004 - 13.0%

Total Z06's - 27,997 - 13.0%

Total ZR1's - 4,684 - 2.2%


http://corvetteactioncenter.com/specs/c6/#.UoSl4uIRsoN


http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...post1585414708
It would be great to see the Z06 come in with a base price of under $80 grand, but I don't think it will happen. What everyone seems to be forgetting is that as of now, there are no plans to build a ZR1. According to reports, the Z06 is the top model that will be offered. The old Z06 had 505 horsepower, less than 100 more than the base model. The new one is 120 horsepower more and more in line with the difference between a C6 ZR1 and base C6.

The C7 Z06 was designed to be the best of the best and to compete with (actually beat it) the Viper, 911's, GTR's, ect.

So it's not an apples to apples comparison. The new Z06 is somewhere in between what the old C6 Z06 and ZR1 were with it being closer to the ZR1 than what the old Z06 was.

Vipers are sitting lots because it's still the same old brutish Viper that's always been built. Not enjoyable to drive, just a monster with a bunch of horsepower that 90% of drivers can't handle. So at $100,000, it's not near enough car to warrant that kind of money.

I think based on all of this, the base model Z06 will likely come in at $89,000, just to keep it under the $90,000 mark. Then a fully optioned one will be over $100K. That will keep it priced below the competitors and the outgoing ZR1.

But keep in mind, this car will outperform the outgoing ZR1. They are just combining the performance of the ZR1 and Z06 into a single package since there likely won't be a C7 ZR1. So the C7 Z06 is a much bigger upgrade over the base model than the C6 Z06 was over a base C6 and thus the price gap will be much larger.

Obviously with the ZR1's accounting for only 2.2% of the Corvette sales, GM has learned that people aren't willing to pay that much for it and that's why they don't have plans to build another one. So the Z06 get's better, but for much less money than the ZR1 that few people were willing to pay for.

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