What I would like to see in the Zora
01-02-2015, 06:46 AM
#43
There is no IF just WHEN!
My guess is the car will be here in 2017 as a 2018 model, there is a strategic plan for GM to capture a completely different market, does not compete with the C7, in fact all it does is compliments the lineup.
GM and the Corvette team are very smart and are building on solid foundation.
Once you make the initial investment it's stupid to cup production by 3000 or 4000 units total, especially when there is demand. All GM has to do is produce 1000 to 1500 supercars annualy and keep developing the platform, The exact opposite of SRT in that total demise of viper. GM is playing their cards right, coupled with racing and winning and track versions of the ZR1 for the enthusiasts and you have a total winner not just for North America but for the whole world.
My guess is the car will be here in 2017 as a 2018 model, there is a strategic plan for GM to capture a completely different market, does not compete with the C7, in fact all it does is compliments the lineup.
GM and the Corvette team are very smart and are building on solid foundation.
Once you make the initial investment it's stupid to cup production by 3000 or 4000 units total, especially when there is demand. All GM has to do is produce 1000 to 1500 supercars annualy and keep developing the platform, The exact opposite of SRT in that total demise of viper. GM is playing their cards right, coupled with racing and winning and track versions of the ZR1 for the enthusiasts and you have a total winner not just for North America but for the whole world.
01-02-2015, 09:31 AM
#44
Safety Car
Another Zora thread? 
It is not as though you have anything else to talk about. GM is not providing much information and magazine reviews are weeks out.
What I would like the Zora to be.
chassis and suspension:
made of aluminum CF tub would be nice but probably too expensive
fixed roof for weight savings. The rework of the chassis for the C8 should be targa/vert.
mid-engine rear
possibility for it to be lowered hydraulically like the Mclaren P1
unequal A arms or multilink if it is easier to keep the alignment when raised and lowered
I am fine with the leaf springs.
MRC
power train:
forced induction using the LT4( turbos might get more HP)
Hybrid AWD with KERS for all wheels, gas and electric for the rear wheels and electric only for front wheels.
Use of batteries and ultracapacitors. I don't know if KERS would be able to charge the ultracapacitors
fast enough, otherwise just go with batteries
manual or auto (preferably DCT) transmission available
aero:
adjustable aero for front splitter and rear wing like on the 911 turbo
good cooling for all systems.
electronics:
I would like to see the adjustable parameters to be set individually, maybe customizable modes.
price:
What do I care. I won't be able to afford it anyway.
It is not as though you have anything else to talk about. GM is not providing much information and magazine reviews are weeks out.What I would like the Zora to be.
chassis and suspension:
made of aluminum CF tub would be nice but probably too expensive
fixed roof for weight savings. The rework of the chassis for the C8 should be targa/vert.
mid-engine rear
possibility for it to be lowered hydraulically like the Mclaren P1
unequal A arms or multilink if it is easier to keep the alignment when raised and lowered
I am fine with the leaf springs.
MRC
power train:
forced induction using the LT4( turbos might get more HP)
Hybrid AWD with KERS for all wheels, gas and electric for the rear wheels and electric only for front wheels.
Use of batteries and ultracapacitors. I don't know if KERS would be able to charge the ultracapacitors
fast enough, otherwise just go with batteries
manual or auto (preferably DCT) transmission available
aero:
adjustable aero for front splitter and rear wing like on the 911 turbo
good cooling for all systems.
electronics:
I would like to see the adjustable parameters to be set individually, maybe customizable modes.
price:
What do I care. I won't be able to afford it anyway.
Considering his expertise in the field...I'd take an LT4 with snails on it.
01-02-2015, 10:24 AM
#45
Drifting
01-02-2015, 01:04 PM
#46
The same thing was said about the C6's exposed headlights...
Not entirely sure why...
For racecars, it is the only way to go (because of fuel savings).
Turbos have been winning Le Mans for a long time.
01-02-2015, 01:26 PM
#47
Safety Car
Why do you say that?
The same thing was said about the C6's exposed headlights...
Most super high HP tuners use turbos, rather than SC.
Not entirely sure why...
For racecars, it is the only way to go (because of fuel savings).
Turbos have been winning Le Mans for a long time.
The same thing was said about the C6's exposed headlights...
Most super high HP tuners use turbos, rather than SC.
Not entirely sure why...
For racecars, it is the only way to go (because of fuel savings).
Turbos have been winning Le Mans for a long time.
A supercharger TAKES horsepower away to drive the unit, and then adds additional horsepower back into the equation...for a new positive.
A turbocharger simply uses the exhaust gasses flowing out of the engine...it doesn't cost anything, it just adds power.
I think the reason Nelson gets more out of them is there is less heat induced into the charge with turbo's vs. the supercharger. Less heat means more boost pressure = more power. Just a guess...
01-02-2015, 02:05 PM
#48
Actually...for race cars they use turbo's because it is FREE horsepower, and is a simpler (overall) design.
A supercharger TAKES horsepower away to drive the unit, and then adds additional horsepower back into the equation...for a new positive.
A turbocharger simply uses the exhaust gasses flowing out of the engine...it doesn't cost anything, it just adds power.
I think the reason Nelson gets more out of them is there is less heat induced into the charge with turbo's vs. the supercharger. Less heat means more boost pressure = more power. Just a guess...
A supercharger TAKES horsepower away to drive the unit, and then adds additional horsepower back into the equation...for a new positive.
A turbocharger simply uses the exhaust gasses flowing out of the engine...it doesn't cost anything, it just adds power.
I think the reason Nelson gets more out of them is there is less heat induced into the charge with turbo's vs. the supercharger. Less heat means more boost pressure = more power. Just a guess...
01-02-2015, 07:40 PM
#49
Le Mans Master
01-03-2015, 01:54 AM
#53
Drifting
Actually...for race cars they use turbo's because it is FREE horsepower, and is a simpler (overall) design.
A supercharger TAKES horsepower away to drive the unit, and then adds additional horsepower back into the equation...for a new positive.
A turbocharger simply uses the exhaust gasses flowing out of the engine...it doesn't cost anything, it just adds power.
I think the reason Nelson gets more out of them is there is less heat induced into the charge with turbo's vs. the supercharger. Less heat means more boost pressure = more power. Just a guess...
A supercharger TAKES horsepower away to drive the unit, and then adds additional horsepower back into the equation...for a new positive.
A turbocharger simply uses the exhaust gasses flowing out of the engine...it doesn't cost anything, it just adds power.
I think the reason Nelson gets more out of them is there is less heat induced into the charge with turbo's vs. the supercharger. Less heat means more boost pressure = more power. Just a guess...
With turbos you get backpressure, backpressure is pushed by the pistons.
01-03-2015, 09:02 AM
#54
Safety Car
01-03-2015, 11:40 PM
#55
Drifting
If it were free power bsfc would be the same as n/a. And its easy 30% more. .45 vs .6. As an example. Which is typical for a turbo enginve vs n/a
01-04-2015, 12:07 AM
#56
Burning Brakes
I want the Zora to be a GM GT40 Fighter. Low volume mid engine, awd production car with an on-board hydraulic Jack system to raise and lower car for maintenance. 800 hp 800 tq should do it. Z1(Zora One) 2020?
01-04-2015, 11:50 AM
#57
Drifting
Wrong
They are going to make it as the current design is already outdated........
If they do not and I really believe that they already working in it, it has to me a big change from the C7 Z06 which is really not that much different that the C6 Z06........
Think about it.
If they do not and I really believe that they already working in it, it has to me a big change from the C7 Z06 which is really not that much different that the C6 Z06........
Think about it.
01-04-2015, 05:12 PM
#59
Team Owner
And the price will start at 150k at least for all the things you guys are lusting after.
01-04-2015, 05:39 PM
#60
Twin turbo v6s with less hp than current lt4. 572 inch big blocks. What a bunch of knuckle heads.