C&D comparison data: C6Z & C7Z
#1
C&D comparison data: C6Z & C7Z
It's obvious that GM emphasized race track performance with the new Z as opposed to straight line performance. Having said that, I'm shocked that with all the added power (yes a little weight too) the straight line performance is this close. Am I in the minority here?
http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...-z06-specs.pdf
http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...-automatic.pdf
http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...-z06-specs.pdf
http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...-automatic.pdf
#4
Most notable to me are the 2mph difference in 1/4 mile trap and the .3 sec difference in 0-150 mph. Something doesn't seem right?
+ ~150 more hp, + ~180 more ft/lb, + ~400 lbs
+ ~150 more hp, + ~180 more ft/lb, + ~400 lbs
#7
Hey, why not just buy a base M4 or M3? You get to carry 3 of your friends, have nearly identical performance (0-160 mph.), nicer interior/ cooler and better gadgets, and a nice trunk for all the cash you'll save. Plus, you can even get it with 4-doors.
"Supercar" is the term GM used to describe this Z. Sorry, but if it can be equalled by a 4-door, 450 h.p. sedan, it's NOT a supercar. PERIOD!
Disclaimer: I placed an order for a Z06 w/Z07. My dealer and salesperson is at a loss. I've not cancelled my order, but I am disheartened by GM's deceptive and, flat- out, false advertising.
"Supercar" is the term GM used to describe this Z. Sorry, but if it can be equalled by a 4-door, 450 h.p. sedan, it's NOT a supercar. PERIOD!
Disclaimer: I placed an order for a Z06 w/Z07. My dealer and salesperson is at a loss. I've not cancelled my order, but I am disheartened by GM's deceptive and, flat- out, false advertising.
#8
Turn 12!
Great incite; very technical. Typical noob hater. Once the heating issue is repaired (and it will be) you will be back on the band wagon. Growing pains my friend, growing pains.
#9
It's obvious that GM emphasized race track performance with the new Z as opposed to straight line performance. Having said that, I'm shocked that with all the added power (yes a little weight too) the straight line performance is this close. Am I in the minority here?
http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...-z06-specs.pdf
http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...-automatic.pdf
http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...-z06-specs.pdf
http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...-automatic.pdf
it is a tradeoff right? i mean ridiculous amounts of downforce comes at a cost in drag.. i would rather have the downforce and corner better. Straight line is boring in comparison, to me anyway.
#10
Race Director
reminds me of the new gen viper vs the old gen..Wasn't much of a leap overall and was kind of a fail..Could the same thing be happening to the cz7? Lots of hype for marginal performance difference. it should be kicking the **** out of a 06z but it's not it's a **** hair differnce
#11
Le Mans Master
you guys are hilarious, what a backwards thinking crowd we have here honestly. Instrumented testing is less than half the story. How these two cars behave in the actual real world, street and track is a world of difference according to real enthusiast who've driven all variations of Corvettes in the past decade.
Sad really, even within the tight knit Corvette community the ignorance runs a bliss
Sad really, even within the tight knit Corvette community the ignorance runs a bliss
#13
Pro
0-60 and 0-100 figures aren't close at all, granted the C7Z tested was an automatic.
The new M3/M4s are quick cars, but 0-150 isn't in the same league as the C6 and C7 Z06s. Fastest mag time for 0-150mph is 20.x seconds for the M3/4. 3 seconds at that speed is pretty huge.
The new M3/M4s are quick cars, but 0-150 isn't in the same league as the C6 and C7 Z06s. Fastest mag time for 0-150mph is 20.x seconds for the M3/4. 3 seconds at that speed is pretty huge.
#14
you guys are hilarious, what a backwards thinking crowd we have here honestly. Instrumented testing is less than half the story. How these two cars behave in the actual real world, street and track is a world of difference according to real enthusiast who've driven all variations of Corvettes in the past decade.
Sad really, even within the tight knit Corvette community the ignorance runs a bliss
Sad really, even within the tight knit Corvette community the ignorance runs a bliss
Complaints do not mean community members are negating their "apparent" social responsibilities to other members.
The fact of the matter is, for a large number of buyers, bragging rights mean something.
How many Z06 owners are actually going to drive their vehicles at 185 mph? 2%, 3%? 1%?
There's nothing wrong with wanting to have the fastest, most powerful, TOY on the street.
NO ONE needs a Z06, ZR1, or Viper, period. But, these cars, for many, are our hobbies, our outlet, etc., and when you're spending $90k to $100k, it's a lot of money, no matter how much you have in the bank.
GM promised "real world" performance numbers, that simply aren't living up the hype THEY CREATED! I'm surprised this forum isn't more outraged at GM's deceptive sales tactics.
#15
Yeah--the car sucks. Highest lateral G readings (1.17-19) ever tested on a road car. Best braking ever recorded from 70mph by C&D on a road car. Ecstatic reviews by those that have actually DRIVEN the car. Runs a 1:29 out of the box at RA and then you drive it home listening to a 10 speaker Bose stereo with your seats on cooling while surfing the Internet on 4G wifi. Then getting home and downloading all the PDR data from your day at the track. I mean, WHO would want this POS?!?!
I hope all the people so negative on the car DON'T buy one so those of us that have can enjoy a little more exclusivity during our ownership experience.
Rant over! I'm new to the corvette world so maybe I don't know any better, but I can't believe the amount of BS that gets posted on this forum.
I hope all the people so negative on the car DON'T buy one so those of us that have can enjoy a little more exclusivity during our ownership experience.
Rant over! I'm new to the corvette world so maybe I don't know any better, but I can't believe the amount of BS that gets posted on this forum.
Last edited by Leadfoot01; 12-08-2014 at 04:05 PM.
#16
Team Owner
Yeah--the car sucks. Highest lateral G readings (1.17-19) ever tested on a road car. Best braking ever recorded from 70mph by C&D on a road car. Ecstatic reviews by those that have actually DRIVEN the car. Runs a 1:29 out of the box at RA and then you drive it home listening to a 10 speaker Bose stereo with your seats on cooling while surfing the Internet on 4G wifi. Then getting home and downloading all the PDR data from your day at the track. I mean, WHO would want this POS?!?!
I hope all the people so negative on the car DON'T buy one so those of us that have can keep a littlem more exclusivity to our ownership experience.
Rant over! I'm new to the corvette world so maybe I don't know any better, but I can't believe the amount of BS that gets posted on this forum.
I hope all the people so negative on the car DON'T buy one so those of us that have can keep a littlem more exclusivity to our ownership experience.
Rant over! I'm new to the corvette world so maybe I don't know any better, but I can't believe the amount of BS that gets posted on this forum.
Am i disappointed in the performance from a roll? Sure. Would i take a c6 of any kind over the new c7? Not a chance in hell.
I wouldnt mind a c7z with the blower pulled off and a 454 stroker put in.
#17
It comes with 4G wifi? Only 4G? That's ridiculous! Are we back to 2011 now? The '16 Viper is coming with 6G! The Viper will be able to upload 2-mb. files in less than 4 seconds! GM takes almost 2 seconds longer, for the same sized file!
This is absurd! That's it. I'm canceling my order. :-D
This is absurd! That's it. I'm canceling my order. :-D
#18
Safety Car
Most people on the street will never realize that I'm driving a car that's inferior to a 2006 C6Z. I wouldn't worry too much about it.
Last edited by CaryBob; 12-08-2014 at 04:14 PM.
#19
you guys are hilarious, what a backwards thinking crowd we have here honestly. Instrumented testing is less than half the story. How these two cars behave in the actual real world, street and track is a world of difference according to real enthusiast who've driven all variations of Corvettes in the past decade.
Sad really, even within the tight knit Corvette community the ignorance runs a bliss
Sad really, even within the tight knit Corvette community the ignorance runs a bliss
#20
Le Mans Master
The car has sacrificed straight line performance up top with increased aerodynamic drag to help the car in the corners. This is a track car (e.g. not a drag car). It's ironic saying that because a track car should be N/A but otherwise, this car is setup for track use, not drag racing. It's potent in a straight line but not unbeatable. If you want a fast car in a straight line throw forced induction on the base model / Z51 instead.
I'm fairly confident that a ZR1 and a blown C6 of any variant will have the Z06 seeing tail lights. Most reviews tend to show that the new Z06 heat soaks after a couple pulls. I'm sure staying on it from 0 all the way to 150mph it's losing power up top too from the excessive heat.
I'm fairly confident that a ZR1 and a blown C6 of any variant will have the Z06 seeing tail lights. Most reviews tend to show that the new Z06 heat soaks after a couple pulls. I'm sure staying on it from 0 all the way to 150mph it's losing power up top too from the excessive heat.