Lingenfelter 2.3L Supercharger Swap - Yes, Please
#1
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Lingenfelter 2.3L Supercharger Swap - Yes, Please
Suprised this hasn't been discussed yet. Pretty impressive gains from swapping the factory 1.7L supercharger with an Edelbrock 2.3L unit. If I buy a C7Z06, it will likely get an Edelbrock or Maggie upgrade.
http://nineballgarage.com/2015/03/c7...-supercharger/
Tony
http://nineballgarage.com/2015/03/c7...-supercharger/
Tony
#5
The 2.3 SC'r is the way it should have come from the factory IMO...great results though with the bigger SC'r!!
#7
What is the reason the factory didn't use it? Gas mileage?
#9
Le Mans Master
They are running more boost albeit more boost on smaller units usually is limited by the added heat the increased PSI brings to the table.
I have been a vette fan for a long time. However, between the speed brake on the back deck and the heat/timing issues up front along with having to void the warranty to enjoy a normal HPDE, my vette emotions are depreciating.
I have been a vette fan for a long time. However, between the speed brake on the back deck and the heat/timing issues up front along with having to void the warranty to enjoy a normal HPDE, my vette emotions are depreciating.
#10
Le Mans Master
Suprised this hasn't been discussed yet. Pretty impressive gains from swapping the factory 1.7L supercharger with an Edelbrock 2.3L unit. If I buy a C7Z06, it will likely get an Edelbrock or Maggie upgrade.
http://nineballgarage.com/2015/03/c7...-supercharger/
Tony
http://nineballgarage.com/2015/03/c7...-supercharger/
Tony
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...k-2-3l-sc.html
#11
Former Vendor
yah few things on that set up since i dealt a lot with 2300s and ligenfelter wont tell the entire story which i think is wrong but i like telling full story
1) the car requires a tune to run that bower. that being said A stock z06 with a tune made what 635 rwhp/640tq?
2) that kit has 3 more psi then stock. a tvs 1700 with 3 more psi then stock and a tune with headers makes almost the same power as that car makes and you save 5000 dollars.
3) example http://www.torquenews.com/106/vengea...5-corvette-z06
INTAKE/TUNE/2 PSI MORE then stock 660/663. Doing headers will add another 20 rwhp/tq so looking at 680/683 about.
4) Headers $1500 intake $450 tune $600 pulley $125 total amount $3675
Edelbroke 2300 blower $7500 dollars
So is 2 rwhp/13 rwtq is goign to cost you almost $4000 dollars!!! yah not worth it
1) the car requires a tune to run that bower. that being said A stock z06 with a tune made what 635 rwhp/640tq?
2) that kit has 3 more psi then stock. a tvs 1700 with 3 more psi then stock and a tune with headers makes almost the same power as that car makes and you save 5000 dollars.
3) example http://www.torquenews.com/106/vengea...5-corvette-z06
INTAKE/TUNE/2 PSI MORE then stock 660/663. Doing headers will add another 20 rwhp/tq so looking at 680/683 about.
4) Headers $1500 intake $450 tune $600 pulley $125 total amount $3675
Edelbroke 2300 blower $7500 dollars
So is 2 rwhp/13 rwtq is goign to cost you almost $4000 dollars!!! yah not worth it
Last edited by NORCAL-SS; 03-02-2015 at 10:15 AM.
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#12
More costly and issue with pollution rules I would say.
Replacing it might cause issues with transmission chain from clutch to gearbox who have just been sized for the 650HP...
Replacing it might cause issues with transmission chain from clutch to gearbox who have just been sized for the 650HP...
#13
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yah few things on that set up since i dealt a lot with 2300s and ligenfelter wont tell the entire story which i think is wrong but i like telling full story
1) the car requires a tune to run that bower. that being said A stock z06 with a tune made what 635 rwhp/640tq?
2) that kit has 3 more psi then stock. a tvs 1700 with 3 more psi then stock and a tune with headers makes almost the same power as that car makes and you save 5000 dollars.
3) example http://www.torquenews.com/106/vengea...5-corvette-z06
INTAKE/TUNE/2 PSI MORE then stock 660/663. Doing headers will add another 20 rwhp/tq so looking at 680/683 about.
4) Headers $1500 intake $450 tune $600 pulley $125 total amount $2675
Edelbroke 2300 blower $7500 dollars
So is 2 rwhp/13 rwtq is goign to cost you almost $5000 dollars!!! yah not worth it
1) the car requires a tune to run that bower. that being said A stock z06 with a tune made what 635 rwhp/640tq?
2) that kit has 3 more psi then stock. a tvs 1700 with 3 more psi then stock and a tune with headers makes almost the same power as that car makes and you save 5000 dollars.
3) example http://www.torquenews.com/106/vengea...5-corvette-z06
INTAKE/TUNE/2 PSI MORE then stock 660/663. Doing headers will add another 20 rwhp/tq so looking at 680/683 about.
4) Headers $1500 intake $450 tune $600 pulley $125 total amount $2675
Edelbroke 2300 blower $7500 dollars
So is 2 rwhp/13 rwtq is goign to cost you almost $5000 dollars!!! yah not worth it
Also, not really wise to compare peak dyno figures from two different dynos. You could, however, compare net gains/losses between two dynos.
#14
Former Vendor
Good discussion points. But, no doubt that a 2.3L blower making the same power as a 1.7L blower - which one do you think will have less heat output? I know those Edelbrocks and late generation Magnuson blowers are OEM quality too, and put some focus on cooling. A bigger blower spinning at less rpm, usually means less heat from compression. No question that the 2.3L offers more long-term scalability. I watched a 2.3L ZR1 blower (RC's car) put down over 1,000 rwhp on blower alone - using a ported factory blower and E85. That will never happen with 1.7L, it is already spinning too high. Maybe spending a little more also buys some reliability here?
Also, not really wise to compare peak dyno figures from two different dynos. You could, however, compare net gains/losses between two dynos.
Also, not really wise to compare peak dyno figures from two different dynos. You could, however, compare net gains/losses between two dynos.
that being said. even if you keep stock pulley on the car it will make prob 15 hp less with headers and save you still over 5k. If i was going to spend 7k on a blower set up would be a procharger since will make wayyyy more power and your already voiding your warranty so F it.
that being said my car gets here in 2 weeks. Im going to be doing
E85 kit
INTAKE
HEADERS
should be in same power range as car above and ill have prob 3k in mods.
Its just how you want to spend the cash. For me I use my cars on the street a lot on weekends "mexico of course" so always looking for what works best.
Last edited by NORCAL-SS; 03-02-2015 at 10:15 AM.
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I'm betting you could sell the factory LT4 supercharger kit for at least $3500-4000 cash, to a hotrodder that wants it on their musclecar. Maybe even more, since there aren't really any available used.
#16
Just curious: why do you want to void your warranty and 'add' more power before even using the car for few Months to see if the 650HP that it offers will suffice?
To me it the same as people always adding salt to the food before even tasting it ;-)
To me it the same as people always adding salt to the food before even tasting it ;-)
#17
Former Vendor
my ctsv had less then 400 miles ripped her all apart and still 3 years later going strong
#18
ive always been like this. Warranty lol not for people like me
my ctsv had less then 400 miles ripped her all apart and still 3 years later going strong
LOUD CTS-V Rev - YouTube
my ctsv had less then 400 miles ripped her all apart and still 3 years later going strong
LOUD CTS-V Rev - YouTube
#19
Le Mans Master
ive always been like this. Warranty lol not for people like me
my ctsv had less then 400 miles ripped her all apart and still 3 years later going strong
LOUD CTS-V Rev - YouTube
my ctsv had less then 400 miles ripped her all apart and still 3 years later going strong
LOUD CTS-V Rev - YouTube
Last edited by Shurshot; 03-02-2015 at 11:44 AM.
#20
Bolt-on LT4 with some blower porting gets 714whp at just 12psi and rippin 9s - Pretty dam good and you dont have to swap out the entire system.
Last edited by GP1224; 03-02-2015 at 11:53 AM.