Say all you want how great new ZO6 is, but....
06-29-2015, 01:07 PM
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Well I would say your missing some marbles if you go tracking your car on a hot 100 degree day. Lot of fun roasting hot track? 
Is there anyone else even there besides maybe a few other dolts.
My z06 without doubt is the finest car on the road for 100k as far street performance your BMW it not close and I paid only 81,500 and laugh at the ones who paid 95-115 for the SAME car with seat heaters
and some extra carbon fibre that is out of place of the street
k.
Is there anyone else even there besides maybe a few other dolts.
My z06 without doubt is the finest car on the road for 100k as far street performance your BMW it not close and I paid only 81,500 and laugh at the ones who paid 95-115 for the SAME car with seat heaters
and some extra carbon fibre that is out of place of the streetk.
06-29-2015, 01:12 PM
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Warning to all.
Guys,
I'm warning you now....if this personal pissing match continues, bans will be handed out swiftly and it won't be pretty.
One warning only............
Either you get back on topic or ruin it for everyone else.
I'm warning you now....if this personal pissing match continues, bans will be handed out swiftly and it won't be pretty.
One warning only............
Either you get back on topic or ruin it for everyone else.
06-29-2015, 01:14 PM
#43
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You guys that buy a Z06 for a street car and dismiss its failings as a track car are hilarious. Its advertised as a track car. That's like buying an expensive watch that does not tell time well and saying it does looks good on your wrist. 
The trouble with this forum is nobody wants to admit any shortcomings in this car. If you do you get attacked.
The trouble with this forum is nobody wants to admit any shortcomings in this car. If you do you get attacked.
The car that is advertised for the track is the Z07.
Then only a few of those are tracked. Your facts are so screwed up you think all Z06's are sold as a track car!
When only a small amount are tracked. The Corvette has always been
a sports car for the streets.
I bought my Z06 like 90 percent plus of the others will never see a track.
Then there are fools beating on your new Corvette around a track in 100 degree heat.
It's all about jealous non owners wanting to complain and they don't even own one.
It's a great car nothing for 80k comes close. Gets 28 plus MPG with just an intake an 700 horses
if you don't spin it will pull on any car minus a few very few 200k and up cars that really are irrelevant
they are so small in number.
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06-29-2015, 01:20 PM
#44
Safety Car
Just wondering what is the motive behind this particular story. We all know about the cooling issues on C7 Z06. Maybe just two sessions were enough for both drivers. Then again the OP perhaps assumed both cars overheated during the sessions. Did the OP ask the two drivers what actually happened? Just my .02
06-29-2015, 01:26 PM
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I bought a Z06 and it is NOT advertised for the track.
The car that is advertised for the track is the Z07.
Then only a few of those are tracked. Your facts are so screwed up you think all Z06's are sold as a track car!
When only a small amount are tracked. The Corvette has always been
a sports car for the streets.
I bought my Z06 like 90 percent plus of the others will never see a track.
Then there are fools beating on your new Corvette around a track in 100 degree heat.
It's all about jealous non owners wanting to complain and they don't even own one.
It's a great car nothing for 80k comes close. Gets 28 plus MPG with just an intake an 700 horses
if you don't spin it will pull on any car minus a few very few 200k and up cars that really are irrelevant
they are so small in number.
The car that is advertised for the track is the Z07.
Then only a few of those are tracked. Your facts are so screwed up you think all Z06's are sold as a track car!
When only a small amount are tracked. The Corvette has always been
a sports car for the streets.
I bought my Z06 like 90 percent plus of the others will never see a track.
Then there are fools beating on your new Corvette around a track in 100 degree heat.
It's all about jealous non owners wanting to complain and they don't even own one.
It's a great car nothing for 80k comes close. Gets 28 plus MPG with just an intake an 700 horses
if you don't spin it will pull on any car minus a few very few 200k and up cars that really are irrelevant
they are so small in number.
06-29-2015, 01:37 PM
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06-29-2015, 02:03 PM
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Just wondering what is the motive behind this particular story. We all know about the cooling issues on C7 Z06. Maybe just two sessions were enough for both drivers. Then again the OP perhaps assumed both cars overheated during the sessions. Did the OP ask the two drivers what actually happened? Just my .02
If the cooling system is the problem and it's well documented I rest my case.
06-29-2015, 02:35 PM
#48
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Thanks for your cordial reply.
06-29-2015, 02:40 PM
#49
Burning Brakes
No it doesn't I bought my car as a street car as are 90 percent of the sales. So if 90 percent never see a track and then your 200 hp statement is so BS. Drive your M3 just don't play with Z06's they will roast you.
Who cares about you slow M3 and your DCT> My ZR1 doesn't have the issue but doesn't track either.
I bought my car as a street car as are 90 percent of the sales. So if 90 percent never see a track and then your 200 hp statement is so BS. Drive your M3 just don't play with Z06's they will roast you.Who cares about you slow M3 and your DCT> My ZR1 doesn't have the issue but doesn't track either.
For M-F driving on road where most people do not/ cannot drive more than 80mph, a track oriented car is pointless.
Another thing is to read my comments on this thread, they are vastly different from the other BMW owner on this thread.
This thread should not be about BMW vs Vette. It's all about the Z06 and that's all it ever should be.
06-29-2015, 02:53 PM
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You guys that buy a Z06 for a street car and dismiss its failings as a track car are hilarious. Its advertised as a track car. That's like buying an expensive watch that does not tell time well and saying it does looks good on your wrist.
The trouble with this forum is nobody wants to admit any shortcomings in this car. If you do you get attacked.
The trouble with this forum is nobody wants to admit any shortcomings in this car. If you do you get attacked.
06-29-2015, 02:58 PM
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Well I'm at 7 track days and counting in hot & humid FL. I run at both PBIR and Homestead. I push it too... session after session. I recently literally melted my front tires from hard sessions. So the only thing overheating are my tires... and my sweaty azz. No other "coolant/oil/trans overheating" issues for me neither.. my pads need replacement soon and I am already using 2 new front tires for the track. So the new Z06 is great but there will be folks who'll continue to bash it... doesn't bother me, I'm too effin busy having fun with it. 
06-29-2015, 03:10 PM
#52
I take my car(s) to the track all the time. What is the point to owning a Corvette if all you are going to do is drive it on the street.
Now ignore my comment and carry on with your arguing
Now ignore my comment and carry on with your arguing
06-29-2015, 03:24 PM
#53
Scraping the splitter.
I have no problem with people putting firsthand data out there for us to review and absorb. When we have PDR data and more detail, it's pretty helpful. But dubious claims or outright fabrications aren't really helpful.
S.
06-29-2015, 03:31 PM
#54
Drifting
I sat there and watched at least 5 new Z06's get PUNISHED ALL DAY LONG, ride after ride after ride! at the Ron Fellows test rides at Indy this weekend. Did not see or hear of one problem with any of them and I'm pretty sure these Drivers were pushing it harder than you do? 
Unless they have their cars set-up differently, they seemed pretty bullet proof
Unless they have their cars set-up differently, they seemed pretty bullet proof
06-29-2015, 03:42 PM
#55
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Well I'm at 7 track days and counting in hot & humid FL. I run at both PBIR and Homestead. I push it too... session after session. I recently literally melted my front tires from hard sessions. So the only thing overheating are my tires... and my sweaty azz. No other "coolant/oil/trans overheating" issues for me neither.. my pads need replacement soon and I am already using 2 new front tires for the track. So the new Z06 is great but there will be folks who'll continue to bash it... doesn't bother me, I'm too effin busy having fun with it.
06-29-2015, 04:22 PM
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I look at this problem like this. All cars have problems some minor some major then they first come out. The manufacturer recalls and fix the issues the car has to limit law suits and to keep their band name going. I had to go dealership for all my bmws. My 2002 m5 had major vanos problems they replaced both units and I was go to go. My 08 m3 had manual transmission replaced after I was getting locked out of second gear car had 2k miles on it. Transmission was 15k job after that no problems. 2013 m5 had oil pump recall after the engine was starved of oil leading to engine failure. My friend waited 3 months for replacement after his car was stuck at the port waiting for parts. I waited a year got 2014 so far so good. Porsche guys with new gt3 had recall on the bolts for the engine block failing leading to car catching on fire some had their car in the dealership for 6 months waiting for new engines. The problem with zo6 is documented the car guys on the forums saying about it. People like me seeing it how the performs, but you guys keep defending Gm. Ok have blow engines, limp modes, overheating issues and keep telling your self my car is the best with no problems. I never track, bmw owners are heating on me because I got a better car. Gm is loving it that's why their warranty is less now then a year ago. Once your warranty runs out you'll be flipping the bill for repairs then I'll see your comments how great the car is. Yeah I'm bwn fan. Bmw stays behind their customers and reads forums to be on top of the problems their car might have or have. The forums are great place for all to weight in good, bad, funny, sad and some times hateful, but to ignore the problems and bash others is a sign of ignorance and in my book ignorance leads to more ignorance and nothing good comes out in the end.
06-29-2015, 04:25 PM
#57
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I was there and watched that happening as I was parked right next to the track near that long line of folks waiting to get to drive. That opportunity was probably the most exciting thing that happened during the three day event. Those ZO6s sure sounded great during those WOT bursts back and forth. But, other than no reported breakdowns (at least as far as I could see), that was not much a test for heat soak or power reduction concerns. I mean it was amateur hour (or really amateur 3 minutes) for folks to get to flog a perfectly nice ZO6 for a few short WOT bursts. I can't imagine many if any of those folks in line had ever been in a ZO6 before, yet alone be able to determine any performance reduction due to that crazy abuse of some beautiful ZO6s. Sure none appeared to experience any break down during that abuse, but what else did it prove? Hey, I love the new ZO6, but GM's work on it is clearly not done.
06-29-2015, 04:28 PM
#58
This is my thoughts on it. Today I was at willow spring raceway in sunny California temps were in the 100. I drove my 2014 m5 to track days all the time in temps like this or close to this because that's the day I have the itch for fun day and I don't care if the temp that day is high or low. Today I ran all day long,with AC, on best time was 1.38. Two guys bought their zo6 to the track. One had the engine replaced at 53 miles, crazy, but I can understand **** happens. He did the entire track set up and was excited to have his vette for the first time on the track. The second guy was also stock but no track set up. Both ran two sessions and both overheated. They couldn't finish the day both and went home early. I really wanted to love this car but seeing is believing. This car needs a proper cooling system. It's a joke that the car of this caliber can't run on hot days.
Cool story, Bro.
06-29-2015, 04:28 PM
#59
I bet those cars were "prepped" or tested and tuned before to make sure they didn't overheat....
06-29-2015, 04:38 PM
#60
Well I'm at 7 track days and counting in hot & humid FL. I run at both PBIR and Homestead. I push it too... session after session. I recently literally melted my front tires from hard sessions. So the only thing overheating are my tires... and my sweaty azz. No other "coolant/oil/trans overheating" issues for me neither.. my pads need replacement soon and I am already using 2 new front tires for the track. So the new Z06 is great but there will be folks who'll continue to bash it... doesn't bother me, I'm too effin busy having fun with it.