Acceleration Comparison Corvette ZR1 vs C7 Z06
11-07-2015, 09:52 PM
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Drifting
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Acceleration Comparison Corvette ZR1 vs C7 Z06
No sure if this has been posted - but interesting none the less;
Last edited by vtknight; 11-07-2015 at 09:57 PM.
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Dan.S (11-08-2015)
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11-09-2015, 01:17 AM
Scraping the splitter.
My Schtick? Let's look at yours shall we?
You do post about your C7 Z06 - your experience with them - on Corvette Forum. You love to talk about how much experience you have - and also compare to others (whom you have no idea about their personal experience). I at least state I don't know someone's experience - but say here are my impressions...
You also throw a hissy fit if any information you deem "negative" dares to be posted about the C7 Z06.
You come ready to crush all comments - as if the information is false and has somehow sullied your good name lol. You have connected to your car so intensely that you fight as if personally assaulted. It's very sad actually.
My posting videos of my car...to make myself feel better?
You own HALF A DOZEN cars. (BTW - I'm not sure if you can hear me clapping? to be fair - it's a light, slowly spaced clap).
Now my favorite part - objective comments. Where were yours again?
I even separated my comments into subjective and objective parts.
What are your objective points to the straight line performance of both cars? To the lack of Nurburgring times for the Z06? The MT tests? The blown engines and over heating issues? All bogus and troll worthy?
I mean - the top speed issues - are these troll worthy comments too? Despite GM themselves admitting it? My son plays Forza 6 and it actually shows the differences between the ZR1 and Z06 top speeds in the game...
But here's the thing - these points don't make the car crap. Just like the criticisms of the GTR - as you've reminded - you've had TWO - for being boring, a computer on wheels, ugly, simple interior, too high driving position, too heavy, noisy, transmission frailty etc...much of which is true. It's not a crappy car either.
You take yourself and the car of the moment you own - too seriously.
Relax. The car you own can have issues and still be a great car.
You do post about your C7 Z06 - your experience with them - on Corvette Forum. You love to talk about how much experience you have - and also compare to others (whom you have no idea about their personal experience). I at least state I don't know someone's experience - but say here are my impressions...
You also throw a hissy fit if any information you deem "negative" dares to be posted about the C7 Z06.
You come ready to crush all comments - as if the information is false and has somehow sullied your good name lol. You have connected to your car so intensely that you fight as if personally assaulted. It's very sad actually.
My posting videos of my car...to make myself feel better?
You own HALF A DOZEN cars. (BTW - I'm not sure if you can hear me clapping? to be fair - it's a light, slowly spaced clap).
Now my favorite part - objective comments. Where were yours again?
I even separated my comments into subjective and objective parts.
What are your objective points to the straight line performance of both cars? To the lack of Nurburgring times for the Z06? The MT tests? The blown engines and over heating issues? All bogus and troll worthy?
I mean - the top speed issues - are these troll worthy comments too? Despite GM themselves admitting it? My son plays Forza 6 and it actually shows the differences between the ZR1 and Z06 top speeds in the game...
But here's the thing - these points don't make the car crap. Just like the criticisms of the GTR - as you've reminded - you've had TWO - for being boring, a computer on wheels, ugly, simple interior, too high driving position, too heavy, noisy, transmission frailty etc...much of which is true. It's not a crappy car either.
You take yourself and the car of the moment you own - too seriously.
Relax. The car you own can have issues and still be a great car.
Good luck with your ZR1.
S.
11-07-2015, 10:01 PM
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Drifting
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This video does seem to back up the issues with drag the C7 Z06 has experienced in other car reviews and youtube races...the 200-300 KM/hr times are especially telling.
Last edited by vtknight; 11-07-2015 at 10:02 PM.
11-07-2015, 10:09 PM
#3
Melting Slicks
Interesting video, but it's not really a great comparison. That's what I like about the 1/2 mile or mile events. The cars run on the same day in pretty much the same conditions.
Also if you noticed, the Z06 short shifted through 1st which definitely hurt 0-60 and 0-100 times.
Also if you noticed, the Z06 short shifted through 1st which definitely hurt 0-60 and 0-100 times.
11-07-2015, 10:18 PM
#4
Drifting
Thread Starter
Interesting video, but it's not really a great comparison. That's what I like about the 1/2 mile or mile events. The cars run on the same day in pretty much the same conditions.
Also if you noticed, the Z06 short shifted through 1st which definitely hurt 0-60 and 0-100 times.
Also if you noticed, the Z06 short shifted through 1st which definitely hurt 0-60 and 0-100 times.
I am in full agreement about same drivers, same day, same track - but the 11 second difference is way above and beyond any environmental or driver factors in my opinion. It's definitely a drag issue and likely why we will never see a Nurburgring lap time for the C7 Z06...
11-07-2015, 11:00 PM
#5
Unfair!
This is stage 3 aero.
This is stage 3 aero.
11-07-2015, 11:24 PM
#6
Drifting
Thread Starter
All joking aside - the aero IS a problem for high speed performance...
I really do like the new C7 Z06 - I get GM's thinking that the car will be a road course purpose ride used for small/medium tracks - it isn't built for anything past 1/4 mile - and maybe they decided to wait for the new ZR1 for the top speed work.
I really do like the new C7 Z06 - I get GM's thinking that the car will be a road course purpose ride used for small/medium tracks - it isn't built for anything past 1/4 mile - and maybe they decided to wait for the new ZR1 for the top speed work.
11-07-2015, 11:31 PM
#7
Race Director
It seems to me if the rear spoiler is creating that much drag, replace it with a customized smaller one (after-market).
That being said, I'm not sure if doing so affects the downforce specs designed for the car...
That being said, I'm not sure if doing so affects the downforce specs designed for the car...
Good one.
11-08-2015, 05:58 AM
#12
Adding down force so the car is more planted and stable isnt an issue. Its function is just that. The ACR is 30mph slower than the base Viper, yet I wouldnt say its a problem 
11-08-2015, 10:24 AM
#15
Aero aside, you are also pushing more weight in the Z06.
In this case you get what you pay for...however we all know a C6 ZR1 beater is coming from GM. And once again, it will be more money but you will get top bragging rights.
In this case you get what you pay for...however we all know a C6 ZR1 beater is coming from GM. And once again, it will be more money but you will get top bragging rights.
11-08-2015, 10:36 AM
#16
Drifting
Thread Starter
I have already stated the above in my own comment - above. Yes GM created - intentionally - a great deal of aero. If removed (as another commented) - we know that it adversely affects lap times (as per Motortrend when they did just that). For small to medium tracks (even larger tracks where straights are fewer) - it will still likely be one of the fastest cars there. Top speed work - simply as a fact - you will have your limitations. This is why I say it's hard to say we haven't seen a Nurburgring lap time simply because of weather issues - or it was during the closure. I still believe that although the new Z06 is faster in the turns than the ZR1 there - its straight line performance - especially at the final straight at NBR - has stopped it from beating the existing ZR1 enough to publicly state the time. This is a reasonable thing to say I believe as the ZR1's time is stil one of the fastest (and difficult) for any car to beat.
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11-08-2015, 10:47 AM
#17
Drifting
Thread Starter
I stated that the above video does show a short shift from 1st to 2nd - it affected 0-100 and 200 km/hrs times. I even stated that those times for the C7 Z06 have been shown to faster in many cases than the ZR1 and likely would have been here too (or at least as fast).
The eleven (11) second difference between the 200-300 km/hr times I believe is fair to say - huge.
The C7 Z06 is an amazing car and will do what it is designed for extremely well. Run road courses.
Personally, I still believe the ZR1 is a more well rounded car and still the best Corvette GM has ever made.
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11-08-2015, 10:50 AM
#18
Burning Brakes
I don't think there are any surprises here on the top end...I'm sure a stgae 1 would've done a little better...but not 11 seconds better. As for the 0-60 time...silly. 3.8s. Interesting how the test had the ZR-1 pretty close to the GM quoted time, but the Z06 was .6 off for a manual and .85 off for an auto.
Last point...I absolutely HATE auto trannies for my weekend/fun car, but I think even the ZR1 guys would admit that they are a serious disadvantage in stop light racing an A8 Z06 because any old fool can mash the pedal to the floor and get a respectable 0-60 in the A8, but that isn't the case in the ZR1 manual...
Last point...I absolutely HATE auto trannies for my weekend/fun car, but I think even the ZR1 guys would admit that they are a serious disadvantage in stop light racing an A8 Z06 because any old fool can mash the pedal to the floor and get a respectable 0-60 in the A8, but that isn't the case in the ZR1 manual...
11-08-2015, 10:57 AM
#20
Drifting
Thread Starter
I don't think there are any surprises here on the top end...I'm sure a stgae 1 would've done a little better...but not 11 seconds better. As for the 0-60 time...silly. 3.8s. Interesting how the test had the ZR-1 pretty close to the GM quoted time, but the Z06 was .6 off for a manual and .85 off for an auto.
Last point...I absolutely HATE auto trannies for my weekend/fun car, but I think even the ZR1 guys would admit that they are a serious disadvantage in stop light racing an A8 Z06 because any old fool can mash the pedal to the floor and get a respectable 0-60 in the A8, but that isn't the case in the ZR1 manual...
Last point...I absolutely HATE auto trannies for my weekend/fun car, but I think even the ZR1 guys would admit that they are a serious disadvantage in stop light racing an A8 Z06 because any old fool can mash the pedal to the floor and get a respectable 0-60 in the A8, but that isn't the case in the ZR1 manual...