Z06 Retest at Laguna Seca Today
12-03-2015, 10:52 PM
#222
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
Guys chill! I honestly don't know what to say about this argument, so I'll just stay out of it.
Although Sam, how is it a piece of crap? Sure it overheated, but why not get the GMPP secondary radiator and LG Motorsports radiator, wrap the oil lines and oil cooler? Those 3 mods alone would help keep temps down. I know theres the whole warranty aspect, but honestly, if the car is running better at the track with an aftermarket radiator, that's probably better than pushing oil to 320 degrees.
Although Sam, how is it a piece of crap? Sure it overheated, but why not get the GMPP secondary radiator and LG Motorsports radiator, wrap the oil lines and oil cooler? Those 3 mods alone would help keep temps down. I know theres the whole warranty aspect, but honestly, if the car is running better at the track with an aftermarket radiator, that's probably better than pushing oil to 320 degrees.
Last edited by four0nefive; 12-03-2015 at 10:59 PM.
12-03-2015, 11:19 PM
#223
Guys chill! I honestly don't know what to say about this argument, so I'll just stay out of it.
Although Sam, how is it a piece of crap? Sure it overheated, but why not get the GMPP secondary radiator and LG Motorsports radiator, wrap the oil lines and oil cooler? Those 3 mods alone would help keep temps down. I know theres the whole warranty aspect, but honestly, if the car is running better at the track with an aftermarket radiator, that's probably better than pushing oil to 320 degrees.
Although Sam, how is it a piece of crap? Sure it overheated, but why not get the GMPP secondary radiator and LG Motorsports radiator, wrap the oil lines and oil cooler? Those 3 mods alone would help keep temps down. I know theres the whole warranty aspect, but honestly, if the car is running better at the track with an aftermarket radiator, that's probably better than pushing oil to 320 degrees.
12-03-2015, 11:30 PM
#224
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
It's junk to me because even all those mods aren't enough to get the oil temps down to a realistic number, the power steering overheats, the brakes were bad(I switched to steel which fixed the problem), shifter pops out under high g's, fuel starvation, mass air flow sensor faluire.
12-03-2015, 11:51 PM
#225
It's junk to me because even all those mods aren't enough to get the oil temps down to a realistic number, the power steering overheats, the brakes were bad(I switched to steel which fixed the problem), shifter pops out under high g's, fuel starvation, mass air flow sensor faluire.
Last edited by 5thGear; 12-03-2015 at 11:53 PM.
12-04-2015, 12:42 AM
#226
Team Owner
Is it possible that you are dealing with lemon car? Everyone knows about overheating issues but two guys I know run Ron Davis radiator and they kept the oil at 275F at the end of 25 minutes sessions in advance level in 90F ambient. No other issues at all. I have heard about powersteering overheating on few cars which now has a solution as well. I belive part of the joy and to truly enjoy something, you gotta like it. If Civic is the anwser then why not but it's not for everyone. Life is too short. Get rid of the Z06 and get something that you like.
One shouldn't have to pay a $25,000 premium(Z06 over base C7) just to have to reengineer the car once they get it in their garage just to make it perform like it was marketed by GM.
12-04-2015, 01:29 AM
#227
Ok I need someone to help me feel better if you can. I have been reading a few articles about self driving cars and as a car lover it's got me really depressed. Some of the articles said that self driving cars will become a mainstream option by 2025 and some even said mandatory(it will be illegal to drive your own car) by 2045. Some even went a step further and said people won't even own cars and that there will be a world wide on call service like driverless uber cars that you will just call to you and after it drops you off it will go pick up someone else.(everyone will be sharing driverless cars). I know some people will say that you will always be able to drive and own your own car but the article made it seem like you won't. They said that if the government doesn't straight up make human driving illegal the insurance companies will make it so expensive to insure a human driven car that no one but the super rich will be able to afford it. As for the private owning of a car they just said that it won't be economically feasible. That the price of the new driverless cars will be too high for the average person and the only way the the uber service companies will be able to afford them is that everyone will share a rented car.
This all makes me rather sad. I may have to find something else that I can buy, work on, and upgrade, that I use fairly regularly that I can take pride in, and for all you other car lovers, you may have to as well.
Another thing: you can kiss the sports car goodbye. You might not even own your own car and if you do are you going to let other people use it as a taxi like all the other cars. Sports cars will be conpletly usless because I HIGHLY doubt that you will be able to tell a self driving car to floor it or take a corner at a speed anywhere near what the car is capable of.
This all makes me rather sad. I may have to find something else that I can buy, work on, and upgrade, that I use fairly regularly that I can take pride in, and for all you other car lovers, you may have to as well.
Another thing: you can kiss the sports car goodbye. You might not even own your own car and if you do are you going to let other people use it as a taxi like all the other cars. Sports cars will be conpletly usless because I HIGHLY doubt that you will be able to tell a self driving car to floor it or take a corner at a speed anywhere near what the car is capable of.
12-04-2015, 07:29 AM
#229
Team Owner
Ok I need someone to help me feel better if you can. I have been reading a few articles about self driving cars and as a car lover it's got me really depressed. Some of the articles said that self driving cars will become a mainstream option by 2025 and some even said mandatory(it will be illegal to drive your own car) by 2045. Some even went a step further and said people won't even own cars and that there will be a world wide on call service like driverless uber cars that you will just call to you and after it drops you off it will go pick up someone else.(everyone will be sharing driverless cars). I know some people will say that you will always be able to drive and own your own car but the article made it seem like you won't. They said that if the government doesn't straight up make human driving illegal the insurance companies will make it so expensive to insure a human driven car that no one but the super rich will be able to afford it. As for the private owning of a car they just said that it won't be economically feasible. That the price of the new driverless cars will be too high for the average person and the only way the the uber service companies will be able to afford them is that everyone will share a rented car.
This all makes me rather sad. I may have to find something else that I can buy, work on, and upgrade, that I use fairly regularly that I can take pride in, and for all you other car lovers, you may have to as well.
Another thing: you can kiss the sports car goodbye. You might not even own your own car and if you do are you going to let other people use it as a taxi like all the other cars. Sports cars will be conpletly usless because I HIGHLY doubt that you will be able to tell a self driving car to floor it or take a corner at a speed anywhere near what the car is capable of.
This all makes me rather sad. I may have to find something else that I can buy, work on, and upgrade, that I use fairly regularly that I can take pride in, and for all you other car lovers, you may have to as well.
Another thing: you can kiss the sports car goodbye. You might not even own your own car and if you do are you going to let other people use it as a taxi like all the other cars. Sports cars will be conpletly usless because I HIGHLY doubt that you will be able to tell a self driving car to floor it or take a corner at a speed anywhere near what the car is capable of.
They believe we should all rely on mass transit and that we should live in small apartment type housing close to where we work.
Only the ruling elite class will have the personal liberties that we, as the middle class, have now.
What do you think the whole man made global warming crap is all about?
Think Russia in the 1920's-1980's.
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12-04-2015, 07:47 AM
#230
Wut??
12-04-2015, 08:03 AM
#231
Guys paid a premium for the Z06(over the price of the base C7), so what's wrong with demanding that GM install a radiator at the factory, that will equal what the Ron Davis radiator will do and install at the factory ducting that will prevent the power steering electric motor from overheating.
One shouldn't have to pay a $25,000 premium(Z06 over base C7) just to have to reengineer the car once they get it in their garage just to make it perform like it was marketed by GM.
One shouldn't have to pay a $25,000 premium(Z06 over base C7) just to have to reengineer the car once they get it in their garage just to make it perform like it was marketed by GM.
12-04-2015, 08:45 AM
#232
Le Mans Master
End of days it comes down to demographics and PR value. They built a car that has high PR value, and is good enough to meet the needs/demands of the demographics which typically buy the car.
The problem is, they are competing for market share from brands which are more loved by younger, more enthusiast based drivers. So, with that, the weaknesses of the car are being more exploited. I think while many people love the car, and are Corvette guys to begin with (owned multiple...brand loyalty types), they are more willing to compromise and work with Tadge/GM, give them time, etc. When you get guys who simply looked at the car as advertised and bought it to use it like it was promoted to be used...let's be real...it comes up short.
For me, I always loved Corvettes but "Z06" really became my "dream" car when I was in high school. It was edgier, faster, aimed at the driver, the enthusiast. This C7Z...it's getting muddled. It's too refined, too much in one package, etc. End of day though, I understand that GM had limitations on the C7 program and they built what they thought would sell, so they could move forward. I personally just hope we see better iterations of Z06 ahead.
The problem is, they are competing for market share from brands which are more loved by younger, more enthusiast based drivers. So, with that, the weaknesses of the car are being more exploited. I think while many people love the car, and are Corvette guys to begin with (owned multiple...brand loyalty types), they are more willing to compromise and work with Tadge/GM, give them time, etc. When you get guys who simply looked at the car as advertised and bought it to use it like it was promoted to be used...let's be real...it comes up short.
For me, I always loved Corvettes but "Z06" really became my "dream" car when I was in high school. It was edgier, faster, aimed at the driver, the enthusiast. This C7Z...it's getting muddled. It's too refined, too much in one package, etc. End of day though, I understand that GM had limitations on the C7 program and they built what they thought would sell, so they could move forward. I personally just hope we see better iterations of Z06 ahead.
12-04-2015, 09:05 AM
#233
I didn't have no issues running a 1:29 at road atlanta. But then again all Zo6's overheat and are junk.
Guys what we have to figure out is why do some have issues and others not.
Sorry back on topic. Go Corvette!!!!
Guys what we have to figure out is why do some have issues and others not.
Sorry back on topic. Go Corvette!!!!
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12-04-2015, 09:50 AM
#234
Drifting
I would get rid of it if I hadn't been t-boned on track and it is the biggest piece of **** I've owned. I'm sure you can see posts on here complaining about every issue I've had. I'm only holding on to it because the value has already been lost and I may as well see if someone comes up with a solution. I can run circles around almost any car when I'm in the zo6, but only for one timed lap. I have never had so many issues tracking a car to date. Let me guess, you've had zero issues with your car? Get some more seat time then tell me the same thing. I've had lots of guys tell me the same. Then lap times started getting better and the problems came on strong. So much that they were willing to dump them at a huge loss just to do away with them
Am I reading this correctly? 
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12-04-2015, 10:01 AM
#236
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I think this a good time to suggest we need a new thread category -
"Threads that have gone off topic and aggravate the c___ out of too many members who click on it to learn something about the original topic" Moderators could move threads into this section as needed. I guess the title could be shortened.
"Threads that have gone off topic and aggravate the c___ out of too many members who click on it to learn something about the original topic" Moderators could move threads into this section as needed. I guess the title could be shortened.
12-04-2015, 10:07 AM
#237
Is it possible that you are dealing with lemon car? Everyone knows about overheating issues but two guys I know run Ron Davis radiator and they kept the oil at 275F at the end of 25 minutes sessions in advance level in 90F ambient. No other issues at all. I have heard about powersteering overheating on few cars which now has a solution as well. I belive part of the joy and to truly enjoy something, you gotta like it. If Civic is the anwser then why not but it's not for everyone. Life is too short. Get rid of the Z06 and get something that you like.
The truth is you can find this on any forum that SOME cars are just problems while most are perfect. Its sucks for some, but fantastic for most. This is across the board.
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12-04-2015, 10:31 AM
#238
I feel for the folks that have had problems but it seems like we have a lot of folks complaining that have never tracked the car or don't even own one. I certainly had a great season with my C7Z.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...rack-days.html
Feel free to look at my videos if you don't believe that I am pushing the car at a decent pace.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDS...IkweraNN2199tg
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...rack-days.html
Feel free to look at my videos if you don't believe that I am pushing the car at a decent pace.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDS...IkweraNN2199tg
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12-04-2015, 11:26 AM
#239
This thread is for people who are excited about the C7 Z06. If anyone wants to bash the Z06, then go start your own thread.
I will be tracking my Z06 (TPW 12/14). My friends with C7 Z06 are having a blast at the track.
I will be tracking my Z06 (TPW 12/14). My friends with C7 Z06 are having a blast at the track.
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12-04-2015, 02:18 PM
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