9.97@138 IW lower, AFE intake, HPA tune, DR only
12-06-2015, 02:10 AM
#21
12-07-2015, 08:05 AM
#22
Former Vendor
Thread Starter
Thanks everyone. If we can get to the possible track rental on the 19th we will leave this car as is but throw some 109 in it. See if we can knock a few tenths off. As far as I have seen we are one of 4 c7z's to make a 9 second pass....
12-07-2015, 02:35 PM
#23
Team Owner
The 'hot' times are starting to come in now...A lot of the C6 boys were saying the C7Z wasn't much faster etc...yet in 1 year, stock for stock, the C7Z (10.41) is about .6s faster than the quickest C6Z (10.98)...and I think the fastest M7 is now 10.5 as well...so almost .5s faster...as more times come in and passes are made we might see some improvements...So far I'm impressed with the C7Z's qtr mi prowess...
9.97 on minimal mods is silly!! Well done!
9.97 on minimal mods is silly!! Well done!
I believe the quickest time posted on the CF for a stock C7 Z06 M7 is 10.51 on Hoosiers. On the C6 Z06 fast list, the quickest stock C6 Z06 M6 on DR's is 10.71.
That's only a .2 second quicker time for comparable transmission equipped cars. But one has 505 HP and the other has 650 HP.
The old rule of thumb was that each 10 horsepower is worth .1 second in the 1/4 mile. Even factoring in the additional 350-400 pounds of weight on the C7 Z06(the old rule of thumb was each 100 pounds was worth .1 second in the 1/4 mile), there should be more than a .2 seconds between the C7 Z06 M7 and the C6 Z06 M6.
Just last month Kyle Lemish said he did 10.89 with his stock C7 Z06 M7 on cup2's(he did 10.66 with his C6 ZR1 on stock tires, that were not cup2's). The record for a C6 Z06 M6 on stock (crappy)Goodyears(back in 2006) was 10.98, just .1 slower than the C7 Z06 M7 that is shod with a decade better tire(Michelin).
Oh, and upping the boost is not "minimal mods". Easy to do, but not minimal in results. Lingenfelter did 9.81 @ 145 back in 2009 with their ZR1 with "minimal mods" ( Lingenfelter snout, pulley, CAI, stock exhaust manifolds). No internal mods. And that was with the "slow" M6 not a "quick" auto.
Quickest time for a bolt-on modified(no internal mods) C6 Z06 is 9.87 @ 138. I would say it's rear end mod would make it comparable to the C7 Z06's A8 as it did have 4.10 rear gears, but since it had no supercharger, it had no increase in boost. It started out with 505 HP and not 650 HP. It's engine mods, no how make up for a 145 HP supercharger that also had a boost increase plus the other normal mods.
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12-07-2015, 02:52 PM
#24
Instructor
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12-08-2015, 07:39 AM
#26
Intermediate
I don't know of any C6 guys saying the C6 Z06 was faster than the C7 Z06 but most, if not all, agreed that the C7 Z06 M7 was a little quicker than the C6 Z06(with the M6), and that the A8 is a lot quicker than the C6 Z06 M6(and it's also a lot quicker than the C7 Z06 M7).
I believe the quickest time posted on the CF for a stock C7 Z06 M7 is 10.51 on Hoosiers. On the C6 Z06 fast list, the quickest stock C6 Z06 M6 on DR's is 10.71.
That's only a .2 second quicker time for comparable transmission equipped cars. But one has 505 HP and the other has 650 HP.
The old rule of thumb was that each 10 horsepower is worth .1 second in the 1/4 mile. Even factoring in the additional 350-400 pounds of weight on the C7 Z06(the old rule of thumb was each 100 pounds was worth .1 second in the 1/4 mile), there should be more than a .2 seconds between the C7 Z06 M7 and the C6 Z06 M6.
Just last month Kyle Lemish said he did 10.89 with his stock C7 Z06 M7 on cup2's(he did 10.66 with his C6 ZR1 on stock tires, that were not cup2's). The record for a C6 Z06 M6 on stock (crappy)Goodyears(back in 2006) was 10.98, just .1 slower than the C7 Z06 M7 that is shod with a decade better tire(Michelin).
Oh, and upping the boost is not "minimal mods". Easy to do, but not minimal in results. Lingenfelter did 9.81 @ 145 back in 2009 with their ZR1 with "minimal mods" ( Lingenfelter snout, pulley, CAI, stock exhaust manifolds). No internal mods. And that was with the "slow" M6 not a "quick" auto.
Quickest time for a bolt-on modified(no internal mods) C6 Z06 is 9.87 @ 138. I would say it's rear end mod would make it comparable to the C7 Z06's A8 as it did have 4.10 rear gears, but since it had no supercharger, it had no increase in boost. It started out with 505 HP and not 650 HP. It's engine mods, no how make up for a 145 HP supercharger that also had a boost increase plus the other normal mods.
I believe the quickest time posted on the CF for a stock C7 Z06 M7 is 10.51 on Hoosiers. On the C6 Z06 fast list, the quickest stock C6 Z06 M6 on DR's is 10.71.
That's only a .2 second quicker time for comparable transmission equipped cars. But one has 505 HP and the other has 650 HP.
The old rule of thumb was that each 10 horsepower is worth .1 second in the 1/4 mile. Even factoring in the additional 350-400 pounds of weight on the C7 Z06(the old rule of thumb was each 100 pounds was worth .1 second in the 1/4 mile), there should be more than a .2 seconds between the C7 Z06 M7 and the C6 Z06 M6.
Just last month Kyle Lemish said he did 10.89 with his stock C7 Z06 M7 on cup2's(he did 10.66 with his C6 ZR1 on stock tires, that were not cup2's). The record for a C6 Z06 M6 on stock (crappy)Goodyears(back in 2006) was 10.98, just .1 slower than the C7 Z06 M7 that is shod with a decade better tire(Michelin).
Oh, and upping the boost is not "minimal mods". Easy to do, but not minimal in results. Lingenfelter did 9.81 @ 145 back in 2009 with their ZR1 with "minimal mods" ( Lingenfelter snout, pulley, CAI, stock exhaust manifolds). No internal mods. And that was with the "slow" M6 not a "quick" auto.
Quickest time for a bolt-on modified(no internal mods) C6 Z06 is 9.87 @ 138. I would say it's rear end mod would make it comparable to the C7 Z06's A8 as it did have 4.10 rear gears, but since it had no supercharger, it had no increase in boost. It started out with 505 HP and not 650 HP. It's engine mods, no how make up for a 145 HP supercharger that also had a boost increase plus the other normal mods.
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12-08-2015, 12:41 PM
#28
Team Owner
But, that additional $725 got them an additional .16 second quicker time vs the $2,500 spent on the C7 Z06. The C7 Z06 in question also had the $3025 A8 option that the C6 ZR1 didn't have. Kind of makes me wonder what the ZR1 would have turned if it had 4.10's.
It is impressive for the C7 Z06, but that doesn't make the C6 Z06/ZR1's dogs, as that was the point I was trying to make in my post.
As for the C6 Z06 with the 4.10 rear gear that did a 9.87(.1 second quicker than the C7 Z06), the additional cost of the rear gear swap is about the same as the cost of the A8 option in the C7( A8 option + GG tax= $3025).
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12-08-2015, 01:10 PM
#29
You are correct on the $2500 as I looked up the retail prices on Lingemfelter's website for the items Lingenfelter used on their 9 second pass and they totaled $3225.
But, that additional $725 got them an additional .16 second quicker time vs the $2,500 spent on the C7 Z06. The C7 Z06 in question also had the $3025 A8 option that the C6 ZR1 didn't have. Kind of makes me wonder what the ZR1 would have turned if it had 4.10's.
It is impressive for the C7 Z06, but that doesn't make the C6 Z06/ZR1's dogs, as that was the point I was trying to make in my post.
As for the C6 Z06 with the 4.10 rear gear that did a 9.87(.1 second quicker than the C7 Z06), the additional cost of the rear gear swap is about the same as the cost of the A8 option in the C7( A8 option + GG tax= $3025).
But, that additional $725 got them an additional .16 second quicker time vs the $2,500 spent on the C7 Z06. The C7 Z06 in question also had the $3025 A8 option that the C6 ZR1 didn't have. Kind of makes me wonder what the ZR1 would have turned if it had 4.10's.
It is impressive for the C7 Z06, but that doesn't make the C6 Z06/ZR1's dogs, as that was the point I was trying to make in my post.
As for the C6 Z06 with the 4.10 rear gear that did a 9.87(.1 second quicker than the C7 Z06), the additional cost of the rear gear swap is about the same as the cost of the A8 option in the C7( A8 option + GG tax= $3025).
Why don't you compare the MSRP first? Or it does not suit your agenda?
12-08-2015, 01:26 PM
#30
Team Owner
But we're not talking about the MSRP of cars being compared. If you want to do that, then compare the MSRP for the COPO Camaro with the 4L Whipple LS3 against the C7 Z06's MSRP. I'm Pretty sure the $86,000 Camaro with it's 8 second 1/4 mile times will out run the Corvette in the 1/4 mile. The COPO Camaro was a car that could be purchased off your Chevy dealer's showroom floor. You can't buy a Corvette that will run in the 8's straight off the dealer's showroom floor, at any price. And it will take more than $2500 to get a C7 Z06 in the 8's.
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12-08-2015, 03:29 PM
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12-08-2015, 03:31 PM
#33
Instructor
The 'hot' times are starting to come in now...A lot of the C6 boys were saying the C7Z wasn't much faster etc...yet in 1 year, stock for stock, the C7Z (10.41) is about .6s faster than the quickest C6Z (10.98)...and I think the fastest M7 is now 10.5 as well...so almost .5s faster...as more times come in and passes are made we might see some improvements...So far I'm impressed with the C7Z's qtr mi prowess...
9.97 on minimal mods is silly!! Well done!
9.97 on minimal mods is silly!! Well done!
Now don't beat me up. That is only comparing quarter mile times. I have ridden in a new Z and it is a much smoother ride, and the interior is way cool. I like them all. It is a great time with all the American performance that is out there. Heck I even like that Fat Cat.
12-08-2015, 03:37 PM
#34
Awesome time there. The C7Z is one awesome machine. Just remember though when comparing times, the stock C6Z Goodyear run craps sucked. Add a decent tire and the C6Z pulled off a 10.7 and is a manual. That's only .2 slower than the manual C7Z.
Now don't beat me up. That is only comparing quarter mile times. I have ridden in a new Z and it is a much smoother ride, and the interior is way cool. I like them all. It is a great time with all the American performance that is out there. Heck I even like that Fat Cat.
Now don't beat me up. That is only comparing quarter mile times. I have ridden in a new Z and it is a much smoother ride, and the interior is way cool. I like them all. It is a great time with all the American performance that is out there. Heck I even like that Fat Cat.
And for the record...the TM on the C7Z (M7) is downright idiotic compared to whats in the C6Z.
12-08-2015, 05:11 PM
#35
Former Vendor
Thread Starter
Love how someone always has 100 things to bring up in threads that doesn't even pertain to the thread.
Plain and simple.... We added a few bolt ons and went high 9's. Our car/setup works. There are only 4 c7Z's in the world that run 9's currently. All others have more mods than ours... If you feel it is simple then please throw a lower pulley and intake on your car and put up the number. Our car will go faster without any more mods. Just need some more testing. We have a consistent low 1.5/high 1.4 short time with our launch/trans tune.... BUT after looking the logs over there is a quicker et in some shift changes....
If it's good weather on the 20th I will report back with a new best.
Plain and simple.... We added a few bolt ons and went high 9's. Our car/setup works. There are only 4 c7Z's in the world that run 9's currently. All others have more mods than ours... If you feel it is simple then please throw a lower pulley and intake on your car and put up the number. Our car will go faster without any more mods. Just need some more testing. We have a consistent low 1.5/high 1.4 short time with our launch/trans tune.... BUT after looking the logs over there is a quicker et in some shift changes....
If it's good weather on the 20th I will report back with a new best.
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12-08-2015, 05:42 PM
#36
Instructor
Love how someone always has 100 things to bring up in threads that doesn't even pertain to the thread.
Plain and simple.... We added a few bolt ons and went high 9's. Our car/setup works. There are only 4 c7Z's in the world that run 9's currently. All others have more mods than ours... If you feel it is simple then please throw a lower pulley and intake on your car and put up the number. Our car will go faster without any more mods. Just need some more testing. We have a consistent low 1.5/high 1.4 short time with our launch/trans tune.... BUT after looking the logs over there is a quicker et in some shift changes....
If it's good weather on the 20th I will report back with a new best.
Plain and simple.... We added a few bolt ons and went high 9's. Our car/setup works. There are only 4 c7Z's in the world that run 9's currently. All others have more mods than ours... If you feel it is simple then please throw a lower pulley and intake on your car and put up the number. Our car will go faster without any more mods. Just need some more testing. We have a consistent low 1.5/high 1.4 short time with our launch/trans tune.... BUT after looking the logs over there is a quicker et in some shift changes....
If it's good weather on the 20th I will report back with a new best.
12-08-2015, 05:53 PM
#37
Instructor
100% I said earlier when folks were talking about the new z's times that the C7's have not been around long enough to know their full potential. Just look what the OP has done.
12-09-2015, 07:28 PM
#38
Love how someone always has 100 things to bring up in threads that doesn't even pertain to the thread.
Plain and simple.... We added a few bolt ons and went high 9's. Our car/setup works. There are only 4 c7Z's in the world that run 9's currently. All others have more mods than ours... If you feel it is simple then please throw a lower pulley and intake on your car and put up the number. Our car will go faster without any more mods. Just need some more testing. We have a consistent low 1.5/high 1.4 short time with our launch/trans tune.... BUT after looking the logs over there is a quicker et in some shift changes....
If it's good weather on the 20th I will report back with a new best.
Plain and simple.... We added a few bolt ons and went high 9's. Our car/setup works. There are only 4 c7Z's in the world that run 9's currently. All others have more mods than ours... If you feel it is simple then please throw a lower pulley and intake on your car and put up the number. Our car will go faster without any more mods. Just need some more testing. We have a consistent low 1.5/high 1.4 short time with our launch/trans tune.... BUT after looking the logs over there is a quicker et in some shift changes....
If it's good weather on the 20th I will report back with a new best.
12-09-2015, 10:52 PM
#40
Took our 2015 Z06 A8 back out the Cecil today with the drag pack on. I am very pleased with the performance considering only having a few mods.
We could do this same package for $2500 out the door for parts, labor, and tuning. (no wheels)
We have an AFE intake, IW 18% lower, Hoosier drag radial, and HorsePowerAddicts tuning. DA was around -150 at time of pass according to airdensityonline.com
STOCK cam, stock exhaust with 4 cats still. Driven too and from the track with over half a tank of gas at the track.
Give us a call to take your car to the next level.
I will post video once we upload it.
We could do this same package for $2500 out the door for parts, labor, and tuning. (no wheels)
We have an AFE intake, IW 18% lower, Hoosier drag radial, and HorsePowerAddicts tuning. DA was around -150 at time of pass according to airdensityonline.com
STOCK cam, stock exhaust with 4 cats still. Driven too and from the track with over half a tank of gas at the track.
Give us a call to take your car to the next level.
I will post video once we upload it.