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YES it was Stock. Farmer has been testing some stuff for us but none of those runs are published. All his runs that are published and for records are stock. The stuff we have that has been tested stands out like a sore thumb and the hood is always up on that car. Now that he has the stock records we are going to do some really cool stuff and the car is going to go faster with still stock tuning in it. Nobody is trying to get over on anyone since it sounds like you are insinuating that.
Bringe, He knows what mode it is in and he told you more than i would have. That is the secret of racing it technique. I am not telling what mode, or what the launch rpm or how much tire pressure. We spend a ton of time testing with trial and error. The cars are really that fast if driven properly. Its all about the driver, look at Travis P. He can make a RMZ450 do a back flip, I can't but that doesn't mean that a RMZ450 can't do a back flip.
Last edited by Zip Corvettes; 12-08-2015 at 12:29 PM.
I took the Z06 to a CTS V track rental at Maryland international Raceway yesterday. It was quite an effort to be able to go, but the premise of negative DA and all of the tracks closing soon we're good motivators. We've been chipping away at our street tire personal best all season trying to equal BigNasty's 10.42 record from earlier in the year. I've been racing since the 1960's and I find it somewhat amazing that you can walk into your local Chevrolet dealer and leave with a fully warrantied, automatic, emissions compliant vehicle that's capable of running 10 second quarter miles in bone stock condition. It's not easy extracting absolute performance from a bone stock vehicle. Little things begin to matter. We have been trying to recapture this record for the better part of the year. I'd like to thank my beautiful wife Donna for letting me pursue my hobbies, and for not getting annoyed with my excitement about negative DA, 60 foot times, and the possibility of a mid engine Corvette on the near horizon… I'd also like to thank my friends, and crew who have helped out over all the many track sessions in the past year; Zack Culbertson, Ryland Smart, Matt Eastwood, John Hampton, Jerry ( Who also set a new blistering M7 Z06 record Friday) Justin Abbott, Chris Lakner, and a big thanks to Joe Eastwood. If it wasn't for his promptness and attention to detail I would probably never make it to one of these rentals in time to benefit from any of the morning DA ... And of course the Corvette forum. This is by far the best place for Corvette enthusiasts
STOCK/STOCK TIRE WORLD RECORD
Both Record Holding Z06's<br/>A8 stock/stock tire<br/>A8 stock/drag tire<br/>M7 stock/drag tire
I hope that everyone has a Merry Christmas, it does appear though that we're going to make one more attempt in 2015. Jerry has caught the fever bad and is in the process of setting up another rental for the 19th of December
Jerry's BLISTERING M7 Z06 World Record
Jerry's M7 Z06 time slips, no more excuses for you M7 guys. Considering that he's only had the car a few weeks he's faster than we were at the same point…
Drag tires! CAI! Race Pipe! Octane booster!
Less than 10s!
We want to see it!!!
Last edited by johnglenntwo; 12-08-2015 at 12:41 PM.
OUTSTANDING driving guys, congrats!!! It's nice to finally put to rest the notion that a ZR1 is quicker than the C7Z in the 1/4 mile whether it's a manual or auto trans.
YES it was Stock. Farmer has been testing some stuff for us but none of those runs are published. All his runs that are published and for records are stock. The stuff we have that has been tested stands out like a sore thumb and the hood is always up on that car. Now that he has the stock records we are going to do some really cool stuff and the car is going to go faster with still stock tuning in it. Nobody is trying to get over on anyone since it sounds like you are insinuating that.
Bringe, He knows what mode it is in and he told you more than i would have. That is the secret of racing it technique. I am not telling what mode, or what the launch rpm or how much tire pressure. We spend a ton of time testing with trial and error. The cars are really that fast if driven properly. Its all about the driver, look at Travis P. He can make a RMZ450 do a back flip, I can't but that doesn't mean that a RMZ450 can't do a back flip.
the only thing im insinuating is last time i saw that car it had a cai on it
OUTSTANDING driving guys, congrats!!! It's nice to finally put to rest the notion that a ZR1 is quicker than the C7Z in the 1/4 mile whether it's a manual or auto trans.
Then the 10.26 @ 135.35 that the stock ZR1 M6 runs on drag radials somehow doesn't count? Please explain how 10.26 @ 135.35 is slower than a 10.51 @ 130.59 for a M7 or 10.28 for an A8?
Then the 10.26 @ 135.35 that the stock ZR1 M6 runs on drag radials somehow doesn't count? Please explain how 10.26 @ 135.35 is slower than a 10.51 @ 130.59 for a M7 or 10.28 for an A8?
You really have a sore butt don't you...
Since when ZR1s come with 18s drag radials from the factory?
Then the 10.26 @ 135.35 that the stock ZR1 M6 runs on drag radials somehow doesn't count? Please explain how 10.26 @ 135.35 is slower than a 10.51 @ 130.59 for a M7 or 10.28 for an A8?
Joe,
You are correct, I thought Lemmish had the record, but 10.26 is faster then a 10.51 and a 10.28. The new auto is obviously an advantage, but the one advantage that the Manual has it the launch. Getting that awesome 60ft is extremely important and if you have traction and MIR where you can pull up on the revs and plus a ZR1 dual disk clutch. That is the golden ticket. The auto shifts faster obviously but we are limited to launch RPM so we get to bog a little on the 60ft.Now that we can go bolt in it might be time for a good custom converter and see what happens. I don't want to do a thing to the engine, I want to see how fast the stock engine can really go with the trans operating at its optimum. I would really like to see a 4500 RPM launch and play with it from there. Our C6 Z did really good because we had a clutch that could handle the 5100 RPM launch on the car. Of course we broke axles like nobodies business but the car when it didn't break was really fast.
Last edited by Zip Corvettes; 12-08-2015 at 03:49 PM.
Since when ZR1s come with 18s drag radials from the factory?
About the same time that the C7 Z06 M7 and the C7 Z06 A8 did, that recorded the 10.51 and the 10.28 times I posted.
Those C7 Z06 times were not run on OE street tires............better to read the entire thread before you jump in with your smart *** replies next time.
The times I posted for the ZR1(10.26), the C7 Z06 A8(10.28) and the C7 Z06 M7(10.51) were all run with drag radials.......on otherwise stock cars.
The fact that 10:40 and 10.41 are faster than 10.66 and 10.98 is good enough for me.
All the rest is just the typical excuses about tires, transmissions, pricing, 10-years of technology, blah, blah, blah.
The stock C7 Z06 is significantly quicker and faster than the stock C6 Z06 through 1320'.
The stock C7 Z06 is quicker and faster than the stock C6 ZR1 through 1320'.
I'm sure these aren't the fastest times for the C7 Z06's either, there is more to come. But we can pretty much be assured that the C6 variants have all gone as fast as they ever will in stock form...even for the several years that both were available with MPSC tires.
S.
The fact that 10:40 and 10.41 are faster than 10.66 and 10.98 is good enough for me.
All the rest is just the typical excuses about tires, transmissions, pricing, 10-years of technology, blah, blah, blah.
The stock C7 Z06 is significantly quicker and faster than the stock C6 Z06 through 1320'.
The stock C7 Z06 is quicker and faster than the stock C6 ZR1 through 1320'.
I'm sure these aren't the fastest times for the C7 Z06's either, there is more to come. But we can pretty much be assured that the C6 variants have all gone as fast as they ever will in stock form...even for the several years that both were available with MPSC tires.
S.
OMG we just don't know where the profound voice will emanate from do we!
Absolutely, and subtract that two tenths and be barking at WHAT!!!!
Last edited by johnglenntwo; 12-08-2015 at 04:42 PM.
About the same time that the C7 Z06 M7 and the C7 Z06 A8 did, that recorded the 10.51 and the 10.28 times I posted.
Those C7 Z06 times were not run on OE street tires............better to read the entire thread before you jump in with your smart *** replies next time.
The times I posted for the ZR1(10.26), the C7 Z06 A8(10.28) and the C7 Z06 M7(10.51) were all run with drag radials.......on otherwise stock cars.
I would just ignore him and his posts. Either way, you have to at least admit, a 10.5 is extremely quick for a stock car with only drag radials.
Joe,
You are correct, I thought Lemmish had the record, but 10.26 is faster then a 10.51 and a 10.28. The new auto is obviously an advantage, but the one advantage that the Manual has it the launch. Getting that awesome 60ft is extremely important and if you have traction and MIR where you can pull up on the revs and plus a ZR1 dual disk clutch. That is the golden ticket. The auto shifts faster obviously but we are limited to launch RPM so we get to bog a little on the 60ft.Now that we can go bolt in it might be time for a good custom converter and see what happens. I don't want to do a thing to the engine, I want to see how fast the stock engine can really go with the trans operating at its optimum. I would really like to see a 4500 RPM launch and play with it from there. Our C6 Z did really good because we had a clutch that could handle the 5100 RPM launch on the car. Of course we broke axles like nobodies business but the car when it didn't break was really fast.
While the ZR1 may have the advantage of launching at a higher rpm than an A8 Z06, I would say most of that advantage is negated by its really tall first gear.
Where is the info for the 10.28 run, did I miss it? Was that with skinnies on the front?
I would just ignore him and his posts. Either way, you have to at least admit, a 10.5 is extremely quick for a stock car with only drag radials.
Yes it is quick for stock car with only drag radials. It's exactly .2 seconds quicker than a stock C6 Z06 with only drag radials that has 145 less horsepower, and is exactly .25 seconds slower than a stock C6 ZR1 with 12 less horsepower and the same manual transmissions.
I look at those times and while the C6 Z06 is the slowest of the three, and only being beat by 2 car lengths in the 1/4 mile by a car with 650 HP and only beat by 4 1/2 car lengths by a car with 638 HP, is damn impressive for a stock, normally aspirated car with ONLY 505 HP, up against two supercharged cars with 638 HP and 650 HP.
I'm not saying the C7 Z07 is a dog, but there are those that are saying the C6 Z06 and C6 ZR1 are dogs. The ET's that have been achieved by all three are facts. ET's that have not been achieved are opinions, and facts trump opinions.
While the ZR1 may have the advantage of launching at a higher rpm than an A8 Z06, I would say most of that advantage is negated by its really tall first gear.
Where is the info for the 10.28 run, did I miss it? Was that with skinnies on the front?
I would like to see this video and slip as well. My car will go faster it's not over yet......
Yes it is quick for stock car with only drag radials. It's exactly .2 seconds quicker than a stock C6 Z06 with only drag radials that has 145 less horsepower, and is exactly .25 seconds slower than a stock C6 ZR1 with 12 less horsepower and the same manual transmissions.
I look at those times and while the C6 Z06 is the slowest of the three, and only being beat by 2 car lengths in the 1/4 mile by a car with 650 HP and only beat by 4 1/2 car lengths by a car with 638 HP, is damn impressive for a stock, normally aspirated car with ONLY 505 HP, up against two supercharged cars with 638 HP and 650 HP.
I'm not saying the C7 Z07 is a dog, but there are those that are saying the C6 Z06 and C6 ZR1 are dogs. The ET's that have been achieved by all three are facts. ET's that have not been achieved are opinions, and facts trump opinions.
Excellent points. I would give it time. The Z06 has been for a year while the ZR1 has been out for 5 and the C6Z for 9 years. Like anti_venom (owner of the Z07 on drag radials that ran 10.5) said, the car has more in it.
While the ZR1 may have the advantage of launching at a higher rpm than an A8 Z06, I would say most of that advantage is negated by its really tall first gear.
Where is the info for the 10.28 run, did I miss it? Was that with skinnies on the front?
I read the post that said farmer did a 10.28 with his A8. There were no details in that posting.
The tall (2.29 first gear X 3.42 rear gear) gearing in both the C7 Z06 M7 and the C6 ZR1 really puts them at a disadvantage against the C7 Z06 A8. I brought up the 4.10 equipped bolt on C6 Z06 as it's 2.66 first gear times the 4.10 rear gear that equals 10.91 total gear. That is compared to the A8's 4.56 first gear times it's 2.41 rear gear that equals 10.99 total gearing. That makes the playing field more level between the A8 and the M6, with the advantage still going to the A8 as the driver with the M6 still has to have the superior skills to modulate the clutch/accelerator on the launch, and try and shift as quick as the A8 claims to do.
With that similar total gearing in first gear, the 4.10 equipped bolt on C6 Z06 M6 is quicker than the bolt on C7 Z06 A8.
12-08-2015, 11:19 AM
