C7 Z06 vs Viper ACR head to head
01-07-2016, 10:59 AM
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As I said in the other thread: Hat tip to team Viper. Sad to see that car leaving the market. Hopefully there will be a future one, but I'm not holding my breath as this may very well be the Viper's last/permanent swan song.
All things considered, fairly decent run by the Z.
All things considered, fairly decent run by the Z.
Last edited by OnPoint; 01-07-2016 at 11:00 AM.
01-07-2016, 11:06 AM
#62
If you go back and watch the MT video when the C7 Z06 didn't make boost (had technical problem), I believe it ran a 1:38 (respectable time at Laguna) and Randy biggest complement was how it had a great grip. Now when all the power is available, it's obvious that it would need some tuning (whether tires, suspension, ECU tune) to help the grip. Not everyone will drive the Z06 at a track record pace on a given track day.
Also, MT guys said the ACR power comes late at 5000 rpm in the new video. That could be a factor in controlling torque through ECU. I like the ACR but the Z06 is still ahead in my opinion.
Also, MT guys said the ACR power comes late at 5000 rpm in the new video. That could be a factor in controlling torque through ECU. I like the ACR but the Z06 is still ahead in my opinion.
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Dean01 (01-08-2016)
01-07-2016, 11:16 AM
#63
Burning Brakes
Randy set the LS lap record at 1:28.65 in the ACR...he was 'near' 2 seconds slower this time...the C7Z was 1:33.05...thus, I don't think it's 'unreasonable' to think the C7Z has another 1-2 seconds in it...I'd guess in great conditions it'll run a 1:31.5. Either way, in less than ideal conditions with similar tires to the ZR1, it was faster by .65 seconds. I'm only commenting, because all the haters seem to think it's not faster at the Ring, or 'not much faster' at the ring than the ZR1.
Having said that, I came away very impressed with the C7Z...most of the comments were very good. The ACR is a great TRACK car...but if you want a well rounded everyday supercar, IMHO the Vette is the easy choice.
To all the people 'knocking' on GM for the C7...sales don't lie. Dodge will kill to sell more than 675 Vipers per year...if you don't think so, ask them why they dropped the price $15k. My point?? Despite the gripes, GM got it right...sales don't lie. Cheers!!
Having said that, I came away very impressed with the C7Z...most of the comments were very good. The ACR is a great TRACK car...but if you want a well rounded everyday supercar, IMHO the Vette is the easy choice.
To all the people 'knocking' on GM for the C7...sales don't lie. Dodge will kill to sell more than 675 Vipers per year...if you don't think so, ask them why they dropped the price $15k. My point?? Despite the gripes, GM got it right...sales don't lie. Cheers!!
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Newton06 (01-07-2016)
01-07-2016, 11:25 AM
#64
Drifting
Good job for ACR and Z06. Don't get too caught up in lap times. You can always put the same type of aero and invest in coilovers which will get you the extra 3 seconds. Some guys with C5 and C6 Z06 ran 1:32 at Laguna with aftermarket upgrades (aero/ suspension). My personal opinion is the Z06 is still better all around and it be can improved further with couple of aftermarket components. It looks amazing, it sounds better and as MT guys said its more comfortable and civilized.
The ACR has been and always will be a singular focused vehicle. It's got to be terrible on the street and the aero stuff... unless you are racing or looking for the ultimate lap times, looks absurd.
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01-07-2016, 11:29 AM
#65
Melting Slicks
My friend Chris was at that test. He got there a little late so he didn't see the Vette run, but he said it was cool and that the track was not optimal. Since the ZO6 was first out to run, it definitely could have ran slower than what was to be expected considering the conditions. Thats the only explanation that makes sense for the small time gain over the ZR1 time. Every other track has the new Z obliterating the ZR1 times typically.
01-07-2016, 11:31 AM
#66
Wow 3 seconds.
That is a incredible difference. I give it to team viper they win this one.
Something doesn't sound quite right with the Zo7 over steering. I have never had mine over steer at all. Maybe GM needs to use my Zo6 for their testing.
That is a incredible difference. I give it to team viper they win this one.
Something doesn't sound quite right with the Zo7 over steering. I have never had mine over steer at all. Maybe GM needs to use my Zo6 for their testing.
01-07-2016, 11:32 AM
#67
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01-07-2016, 11:37 AM
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01-07-2016, 11:39 AM
#69
Burning Brakes
It's so terrible on the street I have driven my Hardcore ACR 11,000 miles over the past 3 summers. All the absurd aero stuff must be why everyone is always posing with the car, taking pictures, waving and giving thumbs up every time I fill up the tank or roll down the highway.
01-07-2016, 11:41 AM
#70
Turn 12!
Don't get me wrong, the Viper ACR is great, but I would never drive it on the street; you will look like a DBag with all of that aero. It just looks weird. For a track only, the Viper is the way to go. The best of both worlds, to me, is the Z06.
Like someone else stated: The Z06 is a Street Car that you can drive on the Track and the ACR is a Track car that you can barley drive on the street.
Both awesome cars in my book.
01-07-2016, 11:43 AM
#71
Turn 12!
It's so terrible on the street I have driven my Hardcore ACR 11,000 miles over the past 3 summers. All the absurd aero stuff must be why everyone is always posing with the car, taking pictures, waving and giving thumbs up every time I fill up the tank or roll down the highway.
01-07-2016, 12:27 PM
#74
Pro
If anyone, in this thread, at MT or out in the interwebs thought the Z06/Z07 was going to trump the ACR they need to have their head examined. The ACR is a TRACK CAR, the Z06 is a street car for the track.
Highlights...
1. Both American cars beat the GT3RS, which is amazing! Not like "OMG I can't believe it", but more like "America has done it right" kind of amazing.
2. The Z06 beat the ZR1 time and the GT3RS time
3. If what the critics say is true, the Z06 did all this with a M7 when the A8 is "supposed" to be faster. Re test?
4. The ACR is a beast...that's it.
I do have a couple questions though. I read previously that this sounded like the out-of-whack aligned car that was used for a Figure 8 test. Way too much oversteer and the complaint of "too much power". I wonder if the Z06 was given the Track alignment before the test? And if not, how much time, realistically, could that save the car around MRLS?
Highlights...
1. Both American cars beat the GT3RS, which is amazing! Not like "OMG I can't believe it", but more like "America has done it right" kind of amazing.
2. The Z06 beat the ZR1 time and the GT3RS time
3. If what the critics say is true, the Z06 did all this with a M7 when the A8 is "supposed" to be faster. Re test?
4. The ACR is a beast...that's it.
I do have a couple questions though. I read previously that this sounded like the out-of-whack aligned car that was used for a Figure 8 test. Way too much oversteer and the complaint of "too much power". I wonder if the Z06 was given the Track alignment before the test? And if not, how much time, realistically, could that save the car around MRLS?
01-07-2016, 12:28 PM
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01-07-2016, 12:57 PM
#76
Drifting
It's so terrible on the street I have driven my Hardcore ACR 11,000 miles over the past 3 summers. All the absurd aero stuff must be why everyone is always posing with the car, taking pictures, waving and giving thumbs up every time I fill up the tank or roll down the highway.
Obviously a better performing/sorted track car than the Z06, but with that come the requisite compromises.
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BOBSZ06 (01-07-2016)
01-07-2016, 12:58 PM
#77
Drifting
01-07-2016, 12:59 PM
#78
Drifting
I do have a couple questions though. I read previously that this sounded like the out-of-whack aligned car that was used for a Figure 8 test. Way too much oversteer and the complaint of "too much power". I wonder if the Z06 was given the Track alignment before the test? And if not, how much time, realistically, could that save the car around MRLS?
01-07-2016, 01:14 PM
#79
Mustangs outsell corvettes hand over fist, Does that make the mustang better then? I hate when sales are brought up. Means nothing in terms of if a car is good or not.
01-07-2016, 01:16 PM
#80
Intermediate
Lol I wasn't serious with that comment but a few seconds doesn't change the way I feel about these two cars. If the acr beat the Z06 by 10 seconds it doesn't matter because they're two types of car's IMO.