ZoratZ06

I have an 'everyday' 4 door sedan...but my Vette gets driven 75% of the time...even today it was literally down pouring in Phoenix this morning, and I took the Vette to my appointment. Not bad in the rain at all. Had it up to Sedona a couple weeks back...beautiful highway cruiser, especially in touring mode. I would never have done that in some of my previous sports cars. I personally think there is nothing wrong with this car as a daily driver...plenty of trunk space, comfortable, relatively quiet, fun to drive and so far reliable. My only gripe is the throttle response should be better and as a DD, it's a little low...but I'm still young, lol...so no biggie.

Blvdbrawler

Awesome video! Both cars are terrific and a lot of fun. Its all a matter of opinion! Never was a Dodge man and never will be. I respect the Viper all day but loyalty to team Vette!

Lets see how ZORA fights the ACR when she arrives! Now you have an even match with the edge going to ZORA for horsepower. I would like to see this same test against a TA & Z06.

Thanks for sharing!

Snorman

I think the one Carl found a couple of weeks ago was $59k and it was a low mileage car.
At that price you could put the VE BBK on it and even the adjustable suspension with some other goodies and probably have a pretty solid track car. And it's doubtful you'd lose your butt if you sold it in a couple of years.
S.

K B Vettin

I agree on your opinion vs fact statement. i have a 14 GTS and my opinion is the ride quality is as good or better than my prior c6 ZR1 and I thought the Viper was too civilized when it was stock. i've owned it 1 year and 1 week and have over 15k miles on the clock (recently did the Houston to San Diego road trip after heads and cam install) and it's my 3rd car, so i have 2 other Choices, a 2015 blown silverado and 67 pro touring lsx 454 camaro but i'm always picking the Viper. its a special ride

Edwardz

Not making excuses but if the temp was " near 50 " I would think in the high 40s, maybe middle. From my experience with the Z06 the tires are hard and have less grip starting at that temp. If it warmed up latter to 55 that could make a huge difference. I love my Z06 and was blessed with 75 degree weather over xmass which reminded me how much more stable the car is at that temp.

5thGear

Someone already had front tire blowing up at Laguna on a new ACR. Are the Kumhos on the ACR considered qualifier tires (Great grip for few laps)?

soulsea

I think the right/relevant question about the new ACR is the following:

If one's ACR is going to be a car that's going to be spending most if not all of its time at the track, for $130ish, is one better off buying an ACR-X, a track only built C5/C6/Viper, used GT3 cup car, etc?

At least that's the question I'm asking myself. I almost wish Dodge had gone all the way and made the current ACR an X version (or offered an X version) with all the safety equipment and without the extra weight of conveniences ... if this ACR is a monster on a road course imagine how good that would have been. But since they didn't I can't decide if buying/building a track car from the ground up will offer both better performance and be more cost effective to buy and to run than the ACR. Trying to figure all of this out.

LEE427

My new ACR Extreme is more comfortable compared to the 2013 I had and it's more comfortable to my 2010 ACR. I couldn't believe when I picked it up from the dealer and drove it home, and also took a long cruise down the coast with it..

Snorman

I tend to think issues like that are related to tire pressure. I can't imagine a properly beaded tire at the right inflation pressure would roll off the wheel that easily, so not sure.
They're a very soft tire, and maybe with the huge downforce the car makes they just aren't going to last long. Also the car might need a very track specific alignment to preserve tires.
S.

5thGear

You need to be as fast as Randy to encounter the oversteer. He did 1:30 at Road Atlanta. Wait... I forget that you had a 1:29 lap there

Hit Apex

I'm not at all surprised by the results and I'm very pleased with my Z06. The ACR is awesome! The Z06 is awesome! I don't know why people are so worried about lap times. I would guess there are only a handful of people on this board that could come close to Randy's times. The rest of us minority that even attend open lapping events could have equal fun in either car and probably would post similar times in both cars.


I crossed shopped the ACR, but in the end spending $40k less and having the Z06 to drive to work several times a week appealed to me more. I just couldn't imagine much street driving of the ACR, it's just more at home on the track. As another poster said, for most of us the personal choice between the 2 cars is about compromises.

Hit Apex

Love that Competition Blue! Came so close to pulling the trigger on a beauty like that.

blipit_

How do you feel now that Z06 is quicker around Laguna than your TA?

Ivan Viera

Can't wait to read what Tadge has to said about the Z oversteer in this test. Pretty sure that there was some GM engineer or representative in this comparison.

MEJ

I think it might be difficult to understand because the Z06 was advertised as the ultimate "Track" car. But I guess calling it a DD against a Track car makes you feel better about the loss, well...

MEJ

That's' 3 seconds on ONE lap. In a real race with multiple laps (say, 10) the ACR would be a half minute ahead. Long enough to park, get out, and crack a cold one while you wait for the Z to come along (If it doesn't blow its motor or tranny, or pass out from heat soak).

Snorman

Why would he need to feel better? He's not the one driving an old piece of junk.
Some of you clowns who think you'll come into these threads and make C7 Z06 owners feel bad or remorseful are pathetic. Get a life, or just head back to the C5 section.
S.

SBC_and_a_stick

Sent you a pm. Want a ride around the paddock!

NineBall

Do you realize that the Z07 splitter extension winglets and the rear clear center spoiler piece are also not recommended for street use, by GM? Someone recently posted a dealer make-ready inspection sheet and proved this. Those items are not supposed to be installed for street use. Fact. Silly? Sure, but you brought it up. You might also find it amusing that the ACR big-*** wing isn't visible through the rear hatch, it is actually less obtrusive to visibility than the TA spoiler, and the Z07 spoiler. Also, your use of "streetable" is also a subjective opinion.

Notice I didn't say "stiffer". I said ride quality. I agree that stiffer or softer would be comparable measurements, but the opinion is which is better. You might also read and find that actual owners of the ACR are reporting that they ride better than the base model and the TA, when in street shock settings. I know, shocker! I've been in a new ACR, it isn't as scary or harsh feeling as the media likes to play up. I pass that off as media hype and storytelling, it keeps things interesting.

Congrats, I suppose? I wonder what a TA2.0 or base non-extreme ACR would do there. Two cars that haven't been tested. Or, what a stage 1 or stage 2 C7Z06 would do there? Would be cool to see how all the performance trim levels stacked up, for both brands.

SBKfan

Doubtful. In the real world, the ACR tires would blow and the Z06 would over heat. There you have it.