C7 Z06 vs Viper ACR head to head
01-07-2016, 06:39 PM
#141
On the figure 8 portion of the vid, they were talking about the acr in street and track mode. I was not aware that the acr had this. Is it like an auto magride system like the z06 or are they just manually adjust in all the coilovers?
01-07-2016, 06:52 PM
#142
Safety Car
01-07-2016, 06:58 PM
#143
01-07-2016, 06:59 PM
#144
01-07-2016, 07:02 PM
#145
Drifting
An eBay auction I was watching ended this morning and $275k didn't meet reserve.
Porsche 911 GT3 RS | eBay
So far as I can tell there seems to be a stalemate right now in RS pricing ... dealers/flippers want over $300k for them and buyers are capping out at around $275/280k.
Porsche 911 GT3 RS | eBay
So far as I can tell there seems to be a stalemate right now in RS pricing ... dealers/flippers want over $300k for them and buyers are capping out at around $275/280k.
^^ I get it... some people have it like the but damn another +100K after 18 miles of use... 
I think the right/relevant question about the new ACR is the following:
If one's ACR is going to be a car that's going to be spending most if not all of its time at the track, for $130ish, is one better off buying an ACR-X, a track only built C5/C6/Viper, used GT3 cup car, etc?
I can't decide if buying/building a track car from the ground up will offer both better performance and be more cost effective to buy and to run than the ACR. Trying to figure all of this out.
If one's ACR is going to be a car that's going to be spending most if not all of its time at the track, for $130ish, is one better off buying an ACR-X, a track only built C5/C6/Viper, used GT3 cup car, etc?
I can't decide if buying/building a track car from the ground up will offer both better performance and be more cost effective to buy and to run than the ACR. Trying to figure all of this out.
for a factory stock car and border line unsafe without a cage and a containment seat.
01-07-2016, 07:16 PM
#147
Melting Slicks
Did the results of this test shock anyone? It's pretty much what I and most of the forum were expecting. As said a million times, the ACR is a track toy and specifically built for that purpose. The Z06 is a daily driver built to run fast at track days. Big difference and focus from the two manufacturers. I don't understand why that's so difficult for some people to understand. By the way, if most of my time was on the track, I'd rather have the Bac Mono than either of these two. Pipe dream, I guess.
01-07-2016, 07:26 PM
#148
The GT3 RS needs a touch of front bar adjustment from the factory to correct this - a 15 minute adjustment solves a lot of the oversteer. It still seemed to have too much oversteer.
01-07-2016, 07:30 PM
#149
Melting Slicks
^^unfortunately thats how most guys feel over on Rennlist....Porsche dealers (or 918 flippers) have priced it so high that many loyal P-car enthusiasts (most of whom track their GT3/GT3RS') are looking elsewhere
01-07-2016, 07:43 PM
#151
The Z06 was originally designed to be a track monster. turns out the C7Z its probably a better DD race car than a full time race car. Almost like it should of been a ZR1.
I love the Z06 to death I've probably put 3,000 miles on my fathers and I'm still going to order one because driving it made my decision that much easier. but I do agree by its name it should be more race car and less luxury.
By definition of the past models ZR1 and Z06 the "ZR1 type car" fits almost every C7Z owners lifestyle on here better. A ton of C7Z owners daily drive these cars and they are damn good cars for that and they can destroy most more expensive performance cars on and off the track.
Most diehard Z06 fans from the past just don't have full race car faith in the new Z but it seems like 95% of the owners of C7Z's on here absolutely love their cars and GM sold a ton of them so the formula must be exactly what the market wanted!
I love the Z06 to death I've probably put 3,000 miles on my fathers and I'm still going to order one because driving it made my decision that much easier. but I do agree by its name it should be more race car and less luxury.
By definition of the past models ZR1 and Z06 the "ZR1 type car" fits almost every C7Z owners lifestyle on here better. A ton of C7Z owners daily drive these cars and they are damn good cars for that and they can destroy most more expensive performance cars on and off the track.
Most diehard Z06 fans from the past just don't have full race car faith in the new Z but it seems like 95% of the owners of C7Z's on here absolutely love their cars and GM sold a ton of them so the formula must be exactly what the market wanted!
01-07-2016, 08:07 PM
#152
Team Owner
better for what I use it for. ACR is in another price league
and honestly is slower.
01-07-2016, 08:10 PM
#153
Le Mans Master
Again!
rotary switches for traction control
http://www.racecar-engineering.com/cars/corvette-c7-r/
Remove some the Vipers aero if your turning off PTM, or don't waste my F'ing time! This is a Stupid comparison.
http://www.racecar-engineering.com/cars/corvette-c7-r/
Remove some the Vipers aero if your turning off PTM, or don't waste my F'ing time! This is a Stupid comparison.
Last edited by johnglenntwo; 01-07-2016 at 08:11 PM.
01-07-2016, 08:52 PM
#155
One thing to consider, I think a simple suspension upgrade would put the Z06 on similar footing as the ACR. My point of reference here is that the DSC Sport team added their shocks to a Viper TA and outran an ACR at the NCM track. There was roughly a 3 second difference to start with and a suspension upgrade closed the gap. Both cars were driven by the same pro level driver.
Anyway, I know that's not the point of this thread, but the DSC suspension should be more compliant than a stock Z06 in tour mode and dynamic/more capable in track mode.
You can probably have the best of both worlds for less than $7K in a Z06.
Anyway, I know that's not the point of this thread, but the DSC suspension should be more compliant than a stock Z06 in tour mode and dynamic/more capable in track mode.
You can probably have the best of both worlds for less than $7K in a Z06.
01-07-2016, 08:53 PM
#156
Team Owner
01-07-2016, 09:03 PM
#158
01-07-2016, 09:11 PM
#159
Both are gorgeous American muscle...pick one or both you can't go wrong both are winners.
Last edited by svtkeith; 01-07-2016 at 09:11 PM.
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01-07-2016, 09:25 PM
#160
Melting Slicks
Regarding the DSC magnetic ride, it think it's a good upgrade for someone serious about the track that still want comfort on the street.