tzoid9

Can't seem to find an answer to my question using the "search" feature. Regarding a 2016 Z06 with the M7 transmission, does that transmission still have the 1-4 shift pattern (2 & 3 gear locked out) when rpm's are below a certain level? Based on the readily available "skip shift disabler", I'm guessing it does but then I noticed the suppliers of these gadgets only call out the standard StringRay model and not the Z06. I already ordered one for my new Z06 (won't arrive for 8 weeks...crap!), but I've owned three 6 speed cars in the last 20 years and all of them had this skip shift feature, which I can not tolerate! Please advise...thanks!!

Bill Dearborn

Yes, it does. It is the same as the previous generations and doesn't work based on rpm. It works based on miles per hour and throttle opening. The skip shift eliminators really aren't needed since a person can easily train themselves to avoid the situation which only occurs in low speed small throttle opening situations such as following a slow car in heavy traffic. If the driver shifts from low to second before 14 mph or after 19 mph when the car is barely accelerating (small throttle opening) the system doesn't activate. If the driver applies more throttle then they can shift from low to second at any speed. Why spend $20 on something that isn't needed? On the C6 you could use fuse with an LED in it. You would blow the fuse and stick it into the CAGS fuse slot and the resistance of the LED (which lit to indicate the fuse was blown) would prevent CAGS from activating. That was a $1.00 solution but even it was a waste of money and time.

If a person talking to a passenger or using the mirror to pick their nose forgets and shifts into 2nd in the forbidden speed zone the system will push the shifter toward 4th and all the driver has to do is push the shifter into third, pull it back out and move it to second which can be done in a second or two. CAGS doesn't interfere when you are running the car hard.

Get a refund on the one you ordered and forget about it.

Bill

tzoid9

Bill, thanks for the information on the skip shift.... I did not realize it is now based on speed and some other throttle criteria. I had to smile on your comment...."Why spend $20 on something that isn't needed?" I ask my wife that same question multiple times a day (more often than that, it has some zeros added to that number, as well)!
I'm OK with the luxury of buying the skip shift eliminator, besides that I've had some Amazon credit for month and that more than covered it. That's a feature I have zero use for and want to be able to shift to where ever I want to, when I want to, without the car talking back to me! Interestingly enough, it sounds like most of the owners do what you do.....that's OK, I don't mind being the odd ball! Thanks!!

rwillitt

Just my opinion. I had a C6 and HATED the skip shift, seemed to get in the way more times than not just driving around town. With the Z06, I find that I very seldom have it kick in. Nothing to prove it, but seems they adjusted it to be less intrusive on this car.

OnPoint

I agree. It's not as intrusive as the C6, and the C6 isn't as intrusive as the C5. It has gotten better with each generation.

It's pretty much a non issue on these. I had mine tuned out, but that is only because I was already changing the stock tune, so tossed that out along with it.

CaryBob

Who shifts out of first gear below 19 mph? With almost no throttle? In a Z06? Shifting out of first at 40 or 50 is way, way more fun.

Gomer

True on the more fun shifting at 40-50 mph. However, I am glad I did mine when I am in super slow gridlock type traffic or behind a slow moving/accelerating vehicle at a traffic light.

BWFitz

Just learn to drive it!

ODEN2

Thanks OnPoint. I've had C5, C6 and C7 Z06, all manuals. I thought I was just becoming more adept/tolerant as I noticed the difference in each gen.

I agree that with the C7 I never seem to encounter the "block". The shift gate, on the other hand seems way too narrow with the extra row for seventh gear; it seems too easy to skip a gear unintentionally on the 2-3 and the 4-5 upshift.

charles

davepl

First thing I do on an manual (which probably voids my warranty) is to load the calibration into HPTuners, turn off CAGS (the correct name for it) and save it back.

I haven't had skipshift for more than a few hours on any car.

If you're using the little dongle/circuit thing, I can only assume they're identical between the Stingray and Z06. I cannot think of a reason it could/would be any different.

Bill Dearborn

If you don't drive in heavy traffic there isn't a need for the CAGS Eliminator since it should never activate accelerating at even a moderate rate from a traffic light or stop sign. However, as I said in my earlier post a person who can train themselves can avoid it just as easily. I firmly believe anything done to the car no matter how minor is a complete waste of time and money. On a priority list it falls far below making sure the shoe laces on 10 year old shoes are washed.

Bill

mtb996

Interestingly, after about 2100 miles, I haven't had it activate once. I've seen the note on the display, but it didn't actuate. I guess I'm just too hard on the throttle. It did seem to engage more in my old C6....

DSOMonster

SoCal traffic deems it necessary for me. I do agree, the C7 is much less obtrusive than the C6 was, which was less obtrusive than my 4th gen Camaros.

-Ron

tzoid9

Bill.....Thanks for your wonderful insight and equally splendid image I now have in my mind. Unfortunately for stupid ole' me, I am still going to have the skip shift eliminator installed just in case I am not quite as coordinated as yourself and I will undoubtedly be stuck in traffic from time to time on those days I have given the chauffeur off.

TEXHAWK0

I have noticed that some suppliers have a different skip shift eliminator for the C7, and I am wondering if the difference is the connector, OR if the C7 actually requires a different resistor to simulate the solenoid.
Does anyone know?

I have measured the resistance on a couple of the eliminators and one was 12 ohm, the other was 24 ohm. One seller listed the resistor as 22K ohm!

The C7 eliminator says it will not fit the C6 or C5???

http://www.northamericantuning.com/s...tor-cags/4574/

BERETTA

I ALWAYS install one on my cars, they cost practically nothing. It depends on how you drive, for me personally the 1-4 activates often. There is no downside to putting one on.

Bill Dearborn

You aren't driving hard enough.

Bill

Greg00Coupe

Agree with that!!!! That little gizmo under your right foot takes care of and skip out system.

BERETTA

Well I am getting older you know.

Seriously, in some traffic conditions, it's just one less thing to have to deal with.

funz06

I exactly like you...........then someone of this Forum said try it without the eliminator and see...............lo and behold...........I found I don't need it with the 2015 Z06