TT32VGT

Title pretty much says all..

I had a potent hci c6 z06, sold it last year.. Looking to get into something new but if the '17 doesnt have the 10spd auto I might just pickup something used to tie me over until mayb '18 when they put the 10spd in the z.

I heard there might be some info released at a show or something at end of April..?? Anyone know about this?

Thanks!

sTz

More info will be available this week. What is so great about the 10 speed? Fuel economy... I wouldn't expect any performance avantages... or not.

TT32VGT

Im sure it will get better gas mileage, but I could care less about that. I was watching some of the zl1 videos and was really impressed with not only how quickly the 10spd was shifting but how it was always keeping the engine in the right rpm.. Im interested to see the performance improvements, if there are any..

Debating gtr, viper, and the z.

SUB VETTE

Full 2017 info will be available from the Corvette Museum Bash on April 29th. Visit their website then.

TT32VGT

awesome. thanks!

davepl

The torque curve on the LT4 means that a 10 speed is pointless. It makes sense on a "high feature" DOHC V6 that's got a peaky torque curve, but ours is flat.

This car would be driveable with a 2-speed powerglide and not much slower. Not sure what additional gears beyond the existing 8 would really buy anyone except maybe steeper overdrives, but that's a ratio question, not a gear count issue.

If the LT4 gets a 10-speed I think its only to have unification across the model lines. I can't see why it would benefit from it, and sure wouldn't wait around without a car to get one!

ckzo6

They are probably trying to get rid of the gas guzzler tax. I'm waiting for confirmation myself. My only fear is more gears in the same space may be weaker.

NemesisC5

2017 Camaro ZL1 with LT4 and 10 speed auto. All GM top performance models to receive 10 speed for 2017...even the Camaro SS 1LE receives the 10 speed auto.

TT32VGT

where did you see all models will receive it for '17 including the ss? didnt see that in the vid-saw it a whileback

johnglenntwo

sTz

The M7 doesn't and the A8 does... The A10 would be a positive in that regard.

3 Z06ZR1

This is where we are headed? Auto driving seems so lifeless!

TRANS DAMM

Just noticed the 17' order guide is out for the stingray/GS. No z06 yet

sTz

'17 Z06 is scheduled for delayed production, and will be available in late fall- presumedly as many of its parts will be scavaged for the GS.

TRANS DAMM

So your thinking they won't announce 17' changes at the bash?

Snorman

I'm actually conflicted about a 10-speed automatic. While I'm sure it'll allow more aggressive gearing while retaining somewhat extreme overdrive in the top gears for fuel economy, as somebody who extensively tracks an A8 Z06 it's pretty much at the limit of how many gear choices I want.
Since the PCM/TCM will not allow downshifts over a certain point, and I prefer to manually shift the car, I find that on-track I have to "place" my shifts just like you'd place your braking points. For example at Daytona-Rolex into T8/bus stop, I'll lift just past the 3 marker and brake at ~2.5. At the 2 marker I'm still going ~145 mph under hard braking...in 5th gear. I need to get to probably well under 120 mph (redline in 4th is ~126) before it'll "allow" a downshift to 4th without giving a "downshift denied" message on the DIC. And I'm at ~95 mph when I start my turn-in. Max speed in 3rd is 103 mph, and I'm pretty sure you have to be well under that for the car to "allow" a downshift. The point is, since you have to index down through the gears, real estate starts to get very short if you brake very hard and very late and carry pretty hefty speeds into various braking zones. The same problem happens on the front straight into T1. From 170+ I need to get from 6th down to 3rd to turn begin turn-in at around 55-57 mph. I don't even bother trying to get the car into 2nd because I'd probably have a whole 1200-1500 rpm of acceleration out of T1 before having to shift, but I also don't think I could squeeze another downshift out of it.
Under heavy, hard braking, I don't have enough time to get 3-downshifts done in some cases. It'll be worse with 4 or even 5. So you have to lengthen the braking zone to accomplish the shifts and go slower. No thanks.
But I'm sure 10-speeds sound good to the mindless drones who rely on magazine articles and internet links for their info. And it may very likely give a straight-line bump as a result of more aggressive gearing. But for a track car...I'm not so sure.
S.

skip89

Soon we may see a mid engine vette with the new 10 speed. Then the $150,000 price tag. I love my new Z. The quality is not there for a 150k Vette. It is still a Chevrolet . It has 50/50 weight distribution now, what will make it worth that price? Maybe 850 HP?
the younger group is not buying now are they/ I think they better back up and make a simpler Corvette for less money to get some young drivers interested. Any opinions out there??

motomanvette

Makes sense to me.

phantasms

I agree. Interior quality and the like is great for GM but it's not German or Italian and that's ok. Durability is better than those mentioned above. So what would one pay $150+ for? Well... what it if looked 95% as insane/incredible as an Aventador, with better performance, less build quality (the Aventadors are pretty good), and cost $150ish instead of the Aventador's $300k. I think there's a market for it. There's a ton of Vette guys with exotics car money but want to buy American. This is one of the reasons the Ford GT did way better than they were expecting. I'm not getting rid of the Z07 anytime soon, but I'm excited about things to come!

Best,
Gene

Snorman

I would much prefer seeing GM move more along the lines of McLaren if they ever make a "Zora" or "ZR1" or whatever for $150k (I personally don't think they will). Lighter weight, distinct but not over the top styling, smaller displacement twin-turbo, DCT with advanced chassis and chassis control technology and active aero.
S.